FORKNI-L
Digest - 17 Feb 1996
Sat, 17 Feb 1996
There are 39 messages totalling 988 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. An FK Top Ten ;) (2)
2. Grace's last name
3. Hello (2)
4. Wait for confirmation
5. Some encouraging words
6. Missing 3rd season elements/NO SPOILERS (2)
7. Last season's Val Day gifts (2)
8. First and second seasons (4)
9. FK Variety Article (2)
10. NATPE bag/ad fund, freebies, and addresses (was: Re: SOS Commercial)
11. tapes
12. GWD in Dracula NOW
13. Improving AOL with FK sounds
14. Wars??
15. Schanke's fantasy
16. FK cast as Librarians (2)
17. Vachon
18. Choosing Factions
19. Name of An Episode (2)
20. Forever Knight Companion (2)
21. Nick/Urs faction
22. Fred Mollin's FK Soundtrack
23. Baltazar
24. SOS: Station Response
25. Vampire romances
26. Hello/Thank you Toni!!!!!/Bringing someone across
27. Paper Cranes (2)
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 09:28:58 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: An FK Top Ten ;)
Hey all,
After all the seriousness lately, I thought some levity was called for. :)
Behold!
>From the home office in Pasadena, Texas!
The Top Ten Things You re Not Likely to Hear Lacroix Say Anytime Soon:
10. Yes, but do you have it in *beige*?
9. I think what the Raven needs is more lighting.
8. Natalie, I need your help.
7. Nick, would you care for a glass of cow s blood?
6. Personally, I prefer white cotton boxer shorts.
5. This hole in the ozone is really disturbing me.
4. Let s get naked!
3. I sure do like that Kathie Lee Gifford.
2. (On the phone:) Hello, Sy Sperling?
1. I need a hug.
(Other candidates included: I think what the Raven needs is a karaoke
machine.; I think I have too much black in my wardrobe.; Hey, dude!;
Omelettes are for breakfast, and only in the worst of times.)
And now for...
The Top Ten Things You re Not Likely to Hear Nick Say Anytime Soon:
10. Yes, but do you have it in *spandex*?
9. Boy I could really go for a virgin right about now.
8. Yes, Lacroix. Anything you say, Lacroix.
7. I sure do wish we lived in a warmer climate so I could go shirtless more
often.
6. That Tracy s smart as a whip.
5. (To Reese:) Here s that report you wanted, two days ahead of schedule.
4. Hey, Nat, wanna go neck in the Caddie?
3. (At the car dealer:) I d like something in a hatchback.
2. I m a morning person.
1. *I love you.*
(Other candidates included: (While doing a crossword puzzle:) What s a nine
letter word starting with F and ending with K that means to remember things
in the past while stopped at a traffic light? ; I sure do like that Kathie
Lee Gifford.)
Wicked Cousin Tippi :)
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 09:43:47 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Grace's last name
On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Diane Echelbarger wrote:
> >Quick question for fanfic.....what was Grace's last name?
>
> In Bad Blood, O'Neil, the vampire hunting CID man, called her "Ms. Bethazaar."
> Can't verify the spelling, but that's her name.
Belshazzar/Baltasar/Balthasar? The Babylonian king who saw the writing on
the wall in the book of Daniel.
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:48:05 GMT
From: Hilary Doda <katya@i.......>
Subject: Re: Hello
>Hi everyone.
> I just subscribed today, and I've already been swamped by the amount of
>traffic. WOW, and I thought the SOS-FK movement on CIS was big.
Welcome, welcome! Great to see new faces! (as such, anyways...)
Anyway, A little
>about me:
> I'm a 16 year old kid who goes to a Japanese private school in NY.
I have
>an interest (some say that it's an obsession, but don't listen to them) in
>computers, SF and, of course, FK.
Oh, welcome to Obsession HQ...:>...When is your birthday? I'm *so* glad I'm
not the only 16-year-old here now...:)=
> Anyway, I was wondering if anyone would be generous enough to make
copies
>of 1st, 2nd and 3'rd (up to the one with the haunted house) episodes for me. If
>so, please e-mail me privately.
I would, but I've only got half of season two and the rest of season
three...sorry.
Great to have you here!
Katya.
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 09:49:47 -0500
From: Lynn McAlpine <Chatelyne@a.......>
Subject: Wait for confirmation
Yes, write Sony and anyone else you think can help right now but HOLD OFF on
referring to the attempted buyout until we have at least a confirmation, and
preferably more information. *We don't need to lose credibility at this
point*.
Lynn
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Chatelyne@a....... (AOL-member-for-life)
SAVE FOREVER KNIGHT. For info see:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 09:48:23 PST
From: Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......>
Subject: Re: Some encouraging words
Sally sent:
---------------Original Message---------------
<He said repeatedly (and I kept asking this, to make sure) (another "this is
just his opinion" disclaimer) that if Sony, Tristar, etc. saw no value in
the series, they'd just dump it -- sell immediately. I asked again, and he
repeated that if a company saw no value in a series -- whether through
syndication, merchandising, new episodes -- they would sell it right off the
bat, not waiting around for better deals, etc.>
----------End of Original Message----------
Sally, Thank you and your brother -- I *do* find it encouraging to know that
TriStar's actions may indicate they actually see value in FK.
SLG
**Sherri Lynn Godsey, Founding Member SFKS. us011164@p....... --
"Think where man's glory most begins and ends, and say my glory was I had
such friends" in Forever Knight. SAVE FK! Write for info re SOS webpage**
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:02:01 -0500
From: Lynn McAlpine <Chatelyne@a.......>
Subject: Missing 3rd season elements/NO SPOILERS
Katya Stokley said:
<There's humour, too, that's missing in the third season.>
Yep, and my personal favorite, playfulness.
I know some of that is because of the dark turn the story line has taken and
some of it because Skanke is gone, but I still miss it bigtime. There one
only one example of playfulness early in the 3rd season (won't be more
specific here) and it was out of place.
Lynn
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Chatelyne@a....... (AOL-member-for-life)
SAVE FOREVER KNIGHT. For info see:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:02:21 -0500
From: Lynn McAlpine <Chatelyne@a.......>
Subject: Last season's Val Day gifts
In BMV I remember Nat gave Nick the silver pill box, and of course LaCroix
sent the roses... but did Nick ever give Nat anything for Valentine's Day
last year? (I don't have this ep on tape or I'd go look myself . . . I'm not
THAT lazy!)
Lynn
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Chatelyne@a....... (AOL-member-for-life)
SAVE FOREVER KNIGHT. For info see:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:02:25 -0500
From: Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......>
Subject: Re: An FK Top Ten ;)
I hope you know you are responsible for permanent brain damage. I apent so
much time ROTFL that I forgot to breath! If my fanfic gets weird from here on
in, well, we'll know who to blame.... :)=
Carrie'
Newbie Knightie
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:06:08 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: First and second seasons
Re Katja's message on the two triangles in Nicks's life during first and second
seasons --
I certainly agree that is a major problem with the third season. Although there
have been several good episodes, with Janette gone, there is no pull for Nick
for his vampire side except for LaCroix - and he's definitely fighting that.
There was a definite sense of humour lost with the los of Schanke and Janette, a
sense that being a vampire wasn't always the hell hole Nick seems to think it is
now.
We all miss the relationships that were so well done before. Episodes like
"Amateur Night" and (oops I forgot the name of the 2nd season opener where Nick
was charged with murder coz LaCroix was setting him up) in which Schanke not
only showed himself a really good detective, but a good friend too. You're never
gonna see an episode like that with Tracy - and her family life is definitely
not one that would be envied by Nick, like Schanke's, to help push him towards
humanity more. We also miss episodes like "Faithful Followers" and "Feeding the
Beast" in which Nat got to be strong - not just tired and hurt all the time. I
think USA did a great diservice to FK in the changes they made - but it was
better than no FK at all.
Dotti R
Knightie 4Ever
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:06:11 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK Variety Article
Toni,
That's an excellent idea for a letter to Sony. I have no doubt that either
Tristar has been telling them they've received no feedback from fans or that the
only feedback they've been getting is from raving lunatics. So, yes, I think
your letter is defintely the way to go. Mine's going out NOW!!
DottiR
Knightie 4Ever
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 09:17:45 -0600
From: Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: NATPE bag/ad fund, freebies, and addresses (was: Re: SOS Commercial)
>I, however, only subscribed here a very little bit ago, and don't know
>how to make a retroactive contribution to Laurie.
OK, I was going to be doing my weekly FK-bag-giveaway post anyway, so here
goes:
Laurie CF very kindly fronted the money for an ad the SOS campaign took out in
_Electronic Media_, an industry trade magazine. This cost us (or her) $4750.
The issue was timed to coincide with NATPE, the annual convention of the
National Association of Television Programming Executives.
Seven listmembers, including myself, also traveled to Las Vegas (where the
convention was held) and handed out bags and brochures on our Save FK efforts
to the participants. The bags had, of course, to be manufactured and
purchased, and the total cost, including shipping, was approx $4000 (I never
did get exact figures, because I handed the bookkeeping over to Lana shortly
after NATPE). Laurie, in a fit of unreasonable generosity, offered to fron
the money for these as well.
The brochures were all donated by generous listmembers, and those of us who
went (we're the NATPE 7 you keep hearing about!) covered personal costs
(airfare/hotel/meals/taxis/etc) out of our own pockets.
We have, as of 2/13, $6316.37 in donations to cover the costs of the ad and
bag. This is roughly $2000 less than their actual cost. Now, I wouldn't want
anyone who honestly *can't* afford it to send more money to the fund, but if
you can afford it, it would really be unfair to stick Laurie with 1/4 of the
total cost, don't you think?
The address to mail your checks to (Made out to Laurie Cohen Fenster) is:
SOS-FK/Friends of Forever Knight
NATPE Fund
[Address removed]
And since this particular rumor has been floating around, allow me to dispell
it. (Cover your ears, I'm gonna shout.) THIS IS NOT A SCAM! The bags and ad
exist. You can buy the Jan 22 issue of _Electronic Media_ from any major
bookstore (Barnes & Noble & Borders have both been mentioned on-list as
sources). The NATPE 7 really did got to Las Vegas and spend a very long day
explaining to everyone who would listen to us (and quite a few people who
wouldn't ;>) why FK deserved another season. We even got written up in the
special midweek NATPE issue (not available in stores) of _Electronic Media_.
If you don't believe, me, check out my webpage (URL in sig). It has photos of
the NATPE 7, and a link to a webpage that's nothing *but* photos of the NATPE
7.
And if you want physical proof of the existence of the bags (or just a
souvenir of our efforts to date), send me a self-addressed 9x12 envelope (not
padded, please!) with enough postage for two ounces of first class mail, and I
will *mail you* one of the bags, one of the brochures (while they last-- I
don't have as many of those), and a copy of the article from Electronic Media.
I am *suggesting*, as a matter of courtesy to Laurie, that anyone who wants a
free NATPE bag, brochure, and article, contribute at *least* $1 toward
defraying the costs. Of course, if you think this is a scam (Sure it is. I'm
willing to risk Federal charges of Mail Fraud, a felony, for a couple $.32
cent stamps, right? :-{ ) don't send a penny. Risk $.55 in postage (or, for
those of you outside the US, 2 international postal coupons) and the cost of
an envelope, and I'll mail you proof of the existence of (at least) the bags.
Mail the envelope to:
NATPE Goodies
[Address removed]
Anyone wanting answers to further questions, e-mail me privately. No offense
to new listmembers, but most of us know all about the NATPE phase of the
campaign, and I'd rather not waste List bandwidth rehashing 'old news'.
Diane E
Fearless Leader, NATPE Strike Force, Ret'd.
# D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... #
# WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:25:05 -0500
From: Beth Brown <BKBVA@a.......>
Subject: tapes
I am new to the show this year. How can I get tapes of 1st and 2nd season?
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 11:10:51 -0500
From: Bea Quindlen <ocaoin@u.......>
Subject: GWD in Dracula NOW
11:00 am EST - The Dracula episode running NOW on the Sci-Fi channel has
GWD in it. Another episode follows.
Bea Ocaoin@u.......
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 11:13:17 -0500
From: "Raymond E. Heuer" <RayHeuer@a.......>
Subject: Re: Improving AOL with FK sounds
Just a quick note -
I found a way to do this without moving or deleting or renaming your
sound files, at least in Win95. If you want to know how, e-mail me at
RayHeuer@a........
And if any of my posts seem out of date or repeat things that have
already been said, please accept my apologies, I've only caught up to 2/7 in
my listmail.
-- Ray
Rage! Rage! Against the dying of the Knight!
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 11:14:51 EST
From: Hiromasa Fukuda <75052.2262@c.......>
Subject: FK Variety Article
Toni-
>>On a not completely unrelated note I have a suggestion for letters
to the Sony Japanese hierarchy.<<
>>My guess is this is not
something Sony would like to hear, but my impression of Japanese culture is
we should be low-key and non-confrontive about it (Those who know more feel
free to comment if I'm wrong..)<<
I would say you're right. Japanese try to be outwardly polite, and avoid direct
confrontations. If they are confronted, they will not say it, but their actions
will reflect it.
-Viper
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 11:14:59 EST
From: Hiromasa Fukuda <75052.2262@c.......>
Subject: Re: Hello
>>Oh, welcome to Obsession HQ...:>...When is your birthday? I'm *so* glad I'm
not the only 16-year-old here now...:)=<<
Thanks. My birthday is Sept 26.
>>I would, but I've only got half of season two and the rest of season
three...sorry.
<<
Oh, well.
-Viper
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 12:27:16 -0400
From: "Leigh T. Johnston" <am496@c.......>
Subject: Wars??
I have been trying to read the previous wars and my net server says
that it cannot locate the URL. I am trying "http://www.evil.org/fkfic/",
if this is wrong could someone please e-mail me *off-list* as I am no
mail until mid-terms are over.
Also could someone tell me where to find new eps of FK in
Fredericksberg VA (sp?), I just found out my sister is a big fan but she
can't get anything other than reruns.
ObFK: uh, um, uh, uh... let's see...ooh, if vampires can't have sex with
mortals can they at least have sex with each other and if so would it be
as satisfying as feeding? Whew... almost couldn't think of one since I
haven't watched my tapes since mid-terms began.
- Leigh (Ghoti) **Immortal Beloved/Merc**
am496@c.......
Save Forever Knight! visit
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamieMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 11:35:20 EST
From: Lynne Levine <llevine@m.......>
Subject: Schanke's fantasy
I think this is a "You Know YOu've Been Obsessing About FK Too Long When...
MY SO brought home a bunch of magazines yesterday to use for an art
project including the March 1996 issue of "Playboy". On the cover of
"Playboy" is a young woman dressed in a school-girl uniform, complete
with plaid skirt. I saw that and squealed "oh my god -- It's Schanke's
fantasy!!!!!"
I'm sure Donut Don already has his copy, and is doing his best to hide it
from Myra.
(In fiction no one ever *really* dies, you know... :-) )
Lynne Levine
llevine@m.......
Ravenette Classic and Immortal Beloved
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 11:44:19 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: First and second seasons
On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Dotti Rhodes wrote:
> with Janette gone, there is no pull for Nick
> for his vampire side except for LaCroix - and he's definitely fighting that.
> There was a definite sense of humour lost with the los of Schanke and Janette, a
> sense that being a vampire wasn't always the hell hole Nick seems to think it is
> now.
Since I'm watching them all so close together (probably a bad idea), I
notice that Nick really yo-yos between states, especially in his
relations with mortals. Sometimes he's filled with self-loathing (why
would any woman want me, I'm so evil), other times he's pleased that he
can help them with his special abilities (helping Katharine Barrington
escape her husband's murderer, helping the East German family get to the
West).
One thing that's not working effectively for me is this idea of Nick
falling in love with every woman who crosses his path. I can't really
figure out if he's in love with Natalie or not (I know he's *supposed* to
be). I'm thinking specifically of the vampire novelist in "Stranger Than
Fiction". While it was a very fun episode, and I was cheering out loud
when Nick used what's his name's fantasy against him, it was very hard
for me to believe that Nick would have really fallen for the novellist,
and even harder to believe that Natalie would have congratulated him for it.
And where did he get all this self-restraint when it comes to Natalie? He
seems to give in really fast to all his other infatuations/lust affairs.
I can't figure out why Natalie puts up with him (aside from we need to
have tension in the series - will he bite her or not?).
> (oops I forgot the name of the 2nd season opener where Nick
> was charged with murder coz LaCroix was setting him up) in which Schanke not
> only showed himself a really good detective, but a good friend too.
"Killer Instinct". I thought it was a wonderful episode! I was glued to
my seat trying to figure out how long Nick was going to put up with his
situation (imprisoned, his apartment searched, etc). He was very strong,
and so was Schanke.
> We also miss episodes like "Faithful Followers" and "Feeding the
> Beast" in which Nat got to be strong - not just tired and hurt all the time. I
> think USA did a great diservice to FK in the changes they made - but it was
> better than no FK at all.
"Faithful Followers" was weird, but Natalie's part was good. There was a
sense of conspiracy between Schanke and Natalie to protect Nick (although
Schanke doesn't know the real reason why).
In one of the episode critiques the comment was made that Schanke was
unbelievably dense not to have figured out what Nick was (in the episode
where Nick was being hunted). I think Schanke is just a person with a
very secure world view, and enough contact with people who aren't in
touch with (real) reality that he can brush off whatever doesn't fit into
his personal cosmology.
Thanks for letting me ramble.
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 11:50:29 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Missing 3rd season elements/NO SPOILERS
On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Lynn McAlpine wrote:
> Katya Stokley said:
That's Katja. I only correct because there's a Katya, too (hi!).
> <There's humour, too, that's missing in the third season.>
> Yep, and my personal favorite, playfulness.
> I know some of that is because of the dark turn the story line has taken and
> some of it because Skanke is gone, but I still miss it bigtime.
I'd feel better about it (the dark turn) if I had some sense that it was
heading to some sort of finale, but knowing about how precarious the
series is in the real world, I'm afraid there isn't one.
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 11:59:32 -0500
From: "Raymond E. Heuer" <RayHeuer@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK cast as Librarians
<<LaCroix as the gov't pub librarian>>
I'll have to take your word for it, Government Publications were kept by the
Reference section where I used to work, so I'm unfamiliar with the breed.
Nevertheless, I see Uncle as Circulation.
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:18:30 -0700
From: Samurai Knight <satori@m.......>
Subject: Re: Vachon
Thu, 15 Feb 1996 Katrinka <STUKENDALCA@m.......> wrote:
>I got a bio of ben bass from the german fk home page. (nice pic)
Do tell where!
Falcon Storm
Vaquera/Cousine/Knightie
"I don't want a new one, I like *that* one!"
satori@m.......
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 12:21:41 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK cast as Librarians
On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Raymond E. Heuer wrote:
> <<LaCroix as the gov't pub librarian>>
>
> Nevertheless, I see Uncle as Circulation.
I live about half a mile from the LC-- yes, the librarians' LC--
and using that eminent library for my guide, I see LaCroix as... the
Copyright Office. Including the International section, which, the one
time I had to check an international copyright, were practically
Aristotle-like (our Aristotle) in the breadth and arcanity of their
knowledge.
Uncle for *head* of Copyright: he serves no one.
Laura
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:24:06 -0700
From: Samurai Knight <satori@m.......>
Subject: Choosing Factions
I'm kinda in the same boat Toni's in. While I unquestionably claim
Vaquera-ship, there are qualities I like about LaCroix and Nick. I *hate*
Nick's constantly whining and I think his search for mortality is stupid.
I mean, after living 800 years with those kind of powers, how could he
adapt to not being able to fly, losing his telepathic/persuasion abilities,
and suffering through colds, flues, disease, being shot at, etc.
Then again, I love his goodness.
LaCroix is oh so complicated! He prides on being a vampire, and while he
is manipulative and cruel, he cares for Nick a great deal, and when Nick is
in danger, LaCroix is there to save his child.
So, maybe to help Toni and I, the factions could try to pursuade us...
Falcon Storm
Vaquera Indefinitely
Possible Cousine/Possible Knightie
satori@m.......
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 12:50:33 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Name of An Episode
I know, I know, I should be drummed out of the list for this, but I was watching
what few 2nd season eps I have and the episode that's Janettes where we find out
when she came across - what was that title? While I was recording it a got a
lot of static right at the time where the title was flashed. (This is why I need
a whole new set of 2nd seasons).
Thanks!!
DottiR
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 12:50:37 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Forever Knight Companion
Hi - Perhaps I missed it when I was off line for a while last year, but what
ever happened to that FK Companion that was supposed to come out? I have my FAQ
that has some info on it, but was it ever released?
Sorry if it's a dumb question, but it just came to my mind with everyone asking
about the music CD.
DottiR
Knightie4-Ever
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 12:58:35 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Name of An Episode
On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Dotti Rhodes wrote:
> the episode that's Janettes where we find out
> when she came across - what was that title?
A Fate Worse Than Death
(ohmigod, I actually know the answer to a question! :-))
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 13:12:08 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Nick/Urs faction
With all the talk of a name for Urs' faction, it's just occurred
to me -- remember the sweet, understanding hug Nick gave Urs at the end of
Hearts of Darkness? Now *there's* a proper pairing... two dismally
unhappy, eternally depressed vampires, each of whom needs a way to shuffle
off this immortal coil --
O, let them coil up together... what angst has brought together,
let no man put asunder...
I call this faction Les Miserables. Fanfic to follow, I promise.
Apache
Perkulator, Vaquera, Les Miz
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 13:26:14 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Knight Companion
On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Dotti Rhodes wrote:
> Hi - Perhaps I missed it when I was off line for a while last year, but what
> ever happened to that FK Companion that was supposed to come out? I have my FAQ
> that has some info on it, but was it ever released?
>
No, it wasn't. There was some difficulty with a publisher; I
don't know what exactly. Then the third season changes came along. The
ms. has not been updated, and the writing team that produced it has split
up and gone on to other stuff.
Laura
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 13:50:21 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: First and second seasons
I think as much as Nick loves Natalie, and we know he does he's said so in Be My
Valentine, Emily Weiss understands the turmoil he's going through much more than
Natalie, is able to put it into words and really feel it. While Natalie loves
Nick, she love the Nick that wants to be human, the human part of him trying to
come through again. She tolerates the vampire in him because it is a part of
him (much as we tolerate the sports nut inside our significant others) but I
don't think she truly UNDERSTANDS what he feels as a vampire. Otherwise, she
wouldn't continually try to get him to do things which are physically impossible
like not taking any blood at all. This is why Nick fell so hard for Emily,
finally, a soul mate. However, he did pull back - he did restrain himself -
especially when he had every opportunity to bring her over. He doesn't even
consider it with Natalie because she has not concept of what his life is like,
and is afraid bringing her over would totally change her as it has some of his
other "children". I think he believed that if he brougth Emily across she would
not have changed as she already had that understanding.
I also think the only reason Natalie "applauded" the situation is because he
beat the lonely vampire part of him by NOT bringing her across and making her
forget him. That to her not only left him available to her, but proved his
humanity was getting stronger.
Also, to prove Nick loves Nat, the end of "Human Factor" where he struggles with
the words to explain why he can't go the route that Janette went. In his way,
(poor dumb darling) he was saying "I love you too much to try that".
Brings a tear to the eye doesn't it??? (VBG)
DottiR
Knightie Forever
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 13:57:42 -0500
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Fred Mollin's FK Soundtrack
I called GNP Crescendo records yesterday. I asked for information on the
Forever Knight soundtrack and they knew immediately what I was talking
about, so I guess I'm *not* the first person to call! :^)
They said it's due out on March 1. The quickest way to get it is to call
them after March 1 and order directly. The phone number is 1-000-000-0000.
It's supposed to be available both on CD and audio cassette. So *no one*
who wants a copy has an excuse not to buy it directly from a commercial
source and thus pay the appropriate royalties to the creative talents
behind this soundtrack. Fred Mollin and the others deserve our support.
By the way, I *need* this CD. I have Raven music running through my head
constantly now, and I need more than the brief snippets we get on the show
to keep me going! And a really high-quality version of the theme music....
yes.... :^)
Hmm... maybe I'll buy the CD for home, and the tape to play in my car!
All I need now is a tape of some Nightcrawler monologues and I'll be
set. If I'm not careful I'll start having flashbacks in traffic.
Eagerly awaiting March 1....
* Allison Percy, Knightie percy91@w....... *
* "Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never -- in *
* nothing, great or small, large or petty -- never give in except to *
* convictions of honor and good sense." Sir Winston Churchill, 1941 *
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 14:25:33 EST
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Baltazar
I'm sure because it's so unusual and I remember it on the credits.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 12:31:05 -0700
From: Samurai Knight <satori@m.......>
Subject: SOS: Station Response
This is a message from one of my off-loop friends:
---------------------FORWARDED MESSAGE--------------------
Falcon,
I sent a letter to the program coordinator at WXIN Fox59 in Indianapolis,
they currently carry FK (albeit at 2:05am on Saturday night/Sunday
morning!) I mentioned to the PC that I hoped that they would continue to
carry FK in their fall line-up. And that they would have to specifically
ask for the fourth season because it was uncertain as to whether TriStar
was actually selling that season or not.
I received a letter back from the program coordinator at WXIN Fox59
(surprise, surprise!!). She said "In regards to Forever Knight, I just
got off the phone with the syndicator and he said it will not be returning
for another season. Our contract will expire in September."
I guess this is actually old news, but I know that people wanted to know
what the responses to their letters had been.
I did send a telegram to Kay Koplovitz at USA back on January 1st,
but I've not seen any response to it.
----------------------------END OF MESSAGE------------------------
Falcon Storm: Historian: DFW International
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"He's not so bad once you get to know him."
Amanda about Duncan "Reunion"
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@ LONG LIVE THE KNIGHT - Forever Knight
<<<<<@{}======================>>>
@ satori@m.......
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 12:05:44 -0800
From: Roni Power <bach@c.......>
Subject: Re: Last season's Val Day gifts
Hi,
On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Lynn McAlpine wrote:
> In BMV I remember Nat gave Nick the silver pill box, and of course LaCroix
> sent the roses... but did Nick ever give Nat anything for Valentine's Day
> last year? (I don't have this ep on tape or I'd go look myself . . . I'm not
Yeah, she got slobbered on, her hair messed up, almost brought across, and
her memory wiped. <VGB> Seriously Nick didn't get her anything as far as
I could tell.
Roni.
Schanke-He's a *Good* Cop! With |Pinky are you pondering what I'm pondering?
*Good* Instincts! Become A FoD! | I think so Brain but if we didn't have
Roni Power bach@c....... O+ FoD| ears, we'd look like weasels.
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 15:34:09 -0500
From: "Teresa S. Edwards" <Nickola4Me@a.......>
Subject: Re: Vampire romances
I have read this series and if anyone is interested in reading them they
really are great!
The titles are, in series order, "Forever and the Night", "For All Eternity",
and "Time Without End". Check them out!:):)
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 15:50:01 -0500
From: Samantha Smiley <MaraJade00@a.......>
Subject: Re: Hello/Thank you Toni!!!!!/Bringing someone across
Oh that is so cool. My birthday is Sept. 30. And my parents won't allow me to
tell my age but I'm very very close to 16.
Thank you so much Toni for the goodies. Toni C. Holm I mean. The bag is so
big. I thought it was a little tote bag or something. But it's not. And thank
you for the copy of the EM article. And the picture of Jon Feltheimer. Now I
can make a dartboard!! <G> Cool brochures. I'm having my Dad bring them over
to the Island. I mean Catalina. He works there on the weekdays. So if anyone
goes there everyonce in a while just look for it on the town bulleton board.
I brought someone across last weekend. She is so eager to see the other
episodes. She's not a Cousin. DARN!! And I think she's a Knightie. DARN
again!! No offense Knighties. I'm an ex-Cousin. I would still be a Cousin if
I wasn't a Merc. She's only seen NiQ, MBiaV, and Fever. But I think my
machine messed up taping Fever. I'll have to check. Not to worry everyone.
She's fully prompted on our situation. I fell like a general telling her
pilots were to bomb. <EG> I like that thought. She knows where to mail and
what to mail. I'm still in the process and bringing across some of my other
freinds. I'm planning to make more copies of the flyer and put them all
around school. Oh boy is that going to be a mess. I can just see it now. A
new class just for writing letters to save the show. Have everyone in school
talk to their contacts. Have the the news crews showing children pickuting at
the Tri-Star building, shouting,"Bring back the Knight. Bring back the
Knight." <Giggles>
Oh well this message has gotten long enough. Bye all! :)
Jade(Samantha S.)-
Mercenary recruit
"Why would I want to live a normal life when
everything in life isn't normal(at least where I live)?"-ME
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 16:49:11 -0500
From: A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......>
Subject: Paper Cranes
I remember there is a Japanese custom of making a thousand origami cranes as
a way to bring health or good luck to someone or something. I don't do
origami but if anyone does they may want to make them to send to CEO's at
Sony. A thousand cranes for FK!!!!
It feels like the end.sniff. I'm going to miss this list.
A Mc Iremi@a.......
"TPTB don't get a #$^@*^ .Well I don't care for them either."
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 16:55:23 -0500
From: Siona <siona@n.......>
Subject: Re: Paper Cranes
On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, A McLaughlin wrote:
> It feels like the end.sniff. I'm going to miss this list.
Why do you think this list will go away if there is (heaven forbid) an end?
Siona@n.......
Dark Knightie!
Help save Forever Knight! see http://www.netaxs.com/~siona/
"Murphy was an optimist!"
Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 16:57:53 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: First and second seasons
On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Dotti Rhodes wrote:
> While Natalie loves
> Nick, she love the Nick that wants to be human, the human part of him trying to
> come through again.
Because that's what Nick wants. In every word he speaks to her in the
"Only the Lonely" flashback, he is disgusted and repulsed by his vampire
self.
Which reminds me, I can't tell on the tape, what does Nick write on
Natalie's birthday card (obviously disappointing) in that episode?
> Otherwise, she
> wouldn't continually try to get him to do things which are physically impossible
> like not taking any blood at all.
This part's a puzzle to me too - *is* Nick in general following Natalie's
prescriptions? Is Natalie out to lunch, prescribing things for Nick which
he *cannot* do?
> I also think the only reason Natalie "applauded" the situation is because he
> beat the lonely vampire part of him by NOT bringing her across and making her
> forget him. That to her not only left him available to her, but proved his
> humanity was getting stronger.
I'll rewatch it with this in mind.
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
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