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Digest - 6 Mar 2014 to 7 Mar 2014 (#2014-43)

Fri, 7 Mar 2014

There are 7 messages totaling 232 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Old warriors never die, they just fade away (7)

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2014 17:42:14 -0500
From:    Laura Davies <bratling2@g.......>
Subject: Re: Old warriors never die, they just fade away

I know. I'm taking forever. But I've been sick for the past few weeks,
which leads to absolute zero interest in writing because I'm hibernating
when I'm not taking care of the kids...


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......> wrote:

> War 15 has been over now for a couple of weeks.  (Well, unless Laura gets
> that last Merc post up.)  This time round, McLisa suggested that deadlines
> be loose; so several factions made their final posts a few days late; and
> some people--myself included--took the opportunity to tie up story arcs we
> wanted to finish properly.  I think most players would agree that this war
> was a success.  In fact, we had more posts than in War 14!
>
> From comments, though, it's clear that War has evolved a lot since days of
> yore.   For one thing, there are a lot fewer players.
>
> I know that there have always been those with no interest in war.  (Which
> is fair.  It's not for everyone.)  On the other hand, I get the impression
> that there are still quite a number of people on list who *used* to play.
>  For one reason or another, though, you stopped.
>
> I'm wondering why.
>
> I mean, I can certainly think of *possible* reasons.  Wars were too huge
> for you to be able to keep up with posts as they were mailed, and too
> confusing to read afterwards; so you got fed up. Or your faction was so big
> that you had no input into how story arcs would develop.   Or you found the
> rules too restrictive.  Or you stopped enjoying the wackiness, and put away
> childish things.  Or you graduated, got a job or had kids (or both), and no
> longer have time--not even behind the scenes.
>
> But that's just me speculating.  Everyone will have their own reasons.
>
> If you're one of the people who used to play, but no more, then why did
> you stop?  Or conversely, if war never appealed to you, why not?
>
>
> Greer
>
>

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2014 15:29:34 -0800
From:    Allison <smilewithviolets@y.......>
Subject: Re: Old warriors never die, they just fade away

Greer asked: If you're one of the people who used to play, but no more, then why 
did you stop?  Or conversely, if war never appealed to you, why not?


I never played because I was intimidated and never felt like I never reached an 
interactive (read: "friend-like") level with other list members. And there was a 
lot more war traffic to contend it so it all seemed very confusing.

That's why I was determined to play this time around to get past those ideas. 
I'm very happy I did. :) 

Allison
Unnamed Cousin
smilewithviolets@y.......

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2014 19:41:01 -0600
From:    E McCann <egmccann@g.......>
Subject: Re: Old warriors never die, they just fade away

... eh. I think it's time and energy for me, at least this time around. 
That and being away for so long.

On 3/6/2014 3:42 PM, Greer Watson wrote:
>
> I know that there have always been those with no interest in war.  (Which is
> fair.  It's not for everyone.)  On the other hand, I get the impression that
> there are still quite a number of people on list who *used* to play.  For
> one reason or another, though, you stopped.
>
> I'm wondering why.

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2014 20:17:20 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Old warriors never die, they just fade away

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......> wrote:

> If you're one of the people who used to play, but no more, then why did
you
> stop?  Or conversely, if war never appealed to you, why not?

I've been a member of the list since 1994 or so, and in all that time I
played in two wars. Why not more frequently? Time, mostly, and a basic
dislike of the chaos that a full-blown war is. I write at a more deliberate
pace than is required in a war. Another factor is that I write and edit for
a living, and to do that in a full-time job and then come home and write
some more is more than I enjoy doing.

It's weird, then, that I ended up running War 12, but that was more by
accident than intent. That was when the UF chat on the Undernet every
Friday was pretty active, and we were discussing possible war premises. In
the end I offered to put all the ideas into one coherent email, and that
ended up getting sent to McLisa. Before I knew it the premise was accepted,
and as the submitter, I was It.

Nancy Kaminski

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2014 19:57:10 -0800
From:    "Libby A. Smith" <libratsie@s.......>
Subject: Re: Old warriors never die, they just fade away

I haven't been very active in the last two wars due to time. This go around, I 
happened to be pulled into a play to replace someone with just a few weeks before 
opening night.

Plus, my job is a lot busier now. Years ago, the war happened to fall during a 
slow time so I was able to write SOME between assignments. In fact, after I 
explained to co-workers what was going on, they gave me some great ideas. LOL.

Perhaps I'll be able to do more next time.

--Libby

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2014 23:13:53 -0500
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: Old warriors never die, they just fade away

At 04:42 PM 3/6/2014, Greer wrote:

>...I get the impression that there are still quite a number of 
>people on list who *used* to [War].  For
>one reason or another, though, you stopped.
>
>I'm wondering why.

It took me several Wars before I got interested in playing, and it 
was mostly because i had a group of listfriends with similar 
interests that was interested in playing as a combined faction (The 
Celtic Glow Worms and the Tequila Fiends). We had some pretty crazy 
premises behind our existence as a group, and some pretty fun times.

Part of the problem was that I was the main writer for the combined 
group of what started out as five or six *active* participants in War 
9, one of whom was primarily a member of the Nunkies Anonymous 
faction, whittled down to four of us in War 10, three of whom 
GAFIATed from the fandom over the time between Wars 10 and 11.

The War 11 premise allowed only the original eight or nine factions. 
I signed on with the Die-Hards, but didn't have a lot of time to 
write for myself. Meanwhile, the Vampbear's story arc took off, and 
the Warmistress had some concerns about Nicolas de Bearbant being off 
on his own while I was not doing a whole lot in there.

By the time War 12 rolled around, the Tequila Fiends and Celtic Glow 
Worms had pretty much all drifted apart, and writing a whole War was 
more time and effort than it was worth. Also, when there isn't a big 
faction, it takes a lot of time to wade through the posts, plot with 
other factions, write posts, and still have the story threads 
relevant to the rest of the War. I was pretty much GAFIATed over Wars 
13 and 14, haven't had the time to put into a War effort since, and 
to tell the truth, I've largely moved on and grown away from FK 
fandom. (Most of my writing efforts today are in the realm of 
diabetes advocacy, mobile health, and mobile technology, except when 
I'm trying to improve some of the processes at my retail day job; 
most of my "fannish" stuff has been in the renfaire community; most 
of my time has been tied up in trying to make ends meet and failing 
miserably at the task.)

In short, Real Life got in the way, and, to a great degree, FIJAGDH.


Brenda F. Bell   webwarren@e.......        UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; 
Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos:  http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://n2kye.webwarren.com/Fiendish_Glow/

Help STOP Diabetes by supporting me in the 2013 ADA Tour de Cure: 
http://main.diabetes.org/goto/bfbell

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Date:    Fri, 7 Mar 2014 11:59:52 -0800
From:    Shelley <bec456@r.......>
Subject: Re: Old warriors never die, they just fade away

>> If you're one of the people who used to play, but no more, then why did 
>> you stop?

The last two wars, for me, has been real life intruding. In war 14, I got 
the flu really bad and was in the hospital after starting to play. In this 
last war, I had just gone back to school and had more work to do, and then 
my father was in critical condition and passed away, and I had to fly out of 
town for 2 weeks.

That said, I love the chaos and fun of wars. I will always *try* to 
participate and pray real life behaves!

Cousin Shelley 

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