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Digest - 20 May 2007 to 21 May 2007 (#2007-54)

Mon, 21 May 2007

There are 6 messages totalling 238 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Episode Discussion: False Witness (4)
  2. ADMIN: FORKNI-L Rules
  3. An FK War/Fic moment

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Date:    Sun, 20 May 2007 19:10:31 -0400
From:    Deborah Clarke <dmclarke@i.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: False Witness

I never noticed that.  You're probably right.  Still  I have to say I find
it very pecular that a bible used in courtlike situation would have a cross
on it. I would have thought they would have  wanted  a more generic bible in
order to appease  more people.

 That  raises an interesting question.   Does that mean the cross  is a more
holy symbol than the    bible itself?

Debbie




on 5/19/07 8:29 PM, Megan Hull at mistrydder@y....... wrote:

> I always figured it was because the bible used in the court had a cross on the
> cover.  You can buy bibles that don't, would he be able to handle those?
>
> -Megan
>

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Date:    Sun, 20 May 2007 23:46:45 -0400
From:    Naia Zifu <naia_zifu@b.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: False Witness

    I'm sure he read it (or had it read to him) during his mortal lifetime.
I'm sure if he can remember all the little details of his life flashbacks,
he can remember biblical quotes ^_^ .

Naia Zifu  (naia_zifu@b.......)
http://www.geocities.com/naia_zifu
It is what it is. . . so what is it?

>  In regard to Nick. In the third season , there is a scene where Nick tops
> or completes various biblical >quotations. Proving he had and could read
> the bible. My question is was his reaction to this bible caused >by his
> knowledge he was going to lie or was it because of its use a more
> consecrated bible.

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Date:    Mon, 21 May 2007 00:12:31 -0400
From:    Don Fasig <argent@c.......>
Subject: ADMIN: FORKNI-L Rules

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Date:    Sun, 20 May 2007 20:52:18 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: False Witness

On 5/20/07, Deborah Clarke <dmclarke@i.......> wrote:
> I never noticed that.  You're probably right.  Still  I have to say I find
> it very pecular that a bible used in courtlike situation would have a cross
> on it. I would have thought they would have  wanted  a more generic bible in
> order to appease  more people.

I don't see how you can have a "generic" Bible. The Bible is the
Bible, whether it has an elaborately decorated cover or a plain one.

One thing to note, though, is that a Bible with a cross on it is a
Christian Bible---that is, it contains both the Old and the New
Testament. I would assume that a Jewish witness would prefer to swear
on a Torah, which is the Old Testament, unless he or she affirmed to
tell the truth.

>  That  raises an interesting question. Does that mean the cross  is a more
> holy symbol than the bible itself?

In Nick's case that might just be the truth. The cross is the
essential Catholic symbol, one that Nick would have revered in life.
The Bible, on the other hand, is something that Catholics are not
encouraged to read, and in Nick's mortal lifetime, many would not have
had the opportunity to do so. The lessons of the Bible are taught to
you and interpreted for you by priests.

This might be surprising to non-Catholic Christians---I attended
Catholic school right through college and it wasn't until I took a
theology class as a college sophomore that I had ever read anything of
the Old Testament. I know my parents, both very devout Catholics,
never read the Bible.

I think it could be possible that for Nick, the book itself---the
physical manifestation of the Bible---is not revered as much as the
symbol of the Cross. It's the words, the concepts, the stories as
relayed by the representatives of Christ on earth, the priests, that
are sacred.

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@c.......

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Date:    Mon, 21 May 2007 09:09:54 -0700
From:    Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......>
Subject: An FK War/Fic moment

From the LJ of a friend, who posted the results of a click on an automatic
fortune cookie generator site:

  "If you never look out the window, you will not see the llama until it is too
late."

   * waves at both Bonnies, because shamefully cannot remember which one is the
llama *


Laurie of the Isles
<Laudon1228@y.......>
http://1-mad-squirrel.livejournal.com/
"All human wisdom is summed up in two words - wait and hope."
 - Alexandre Dumas, Père


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Date:    Mon, 21 May 2007 09:21:56 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: False Witness

It's also quite possible he read it himself, maybe during the Reformtaion.
Just because he's Catholic doesn't mean he wouldn't be curious about the debates.
And what about the Dying to Know You flashbacks?  He was obviously living in
some kind of religious community, maybe Protestent or Puritan.  I'm SURE he got a
good Bible education there.

                                                      -Megan

Naia Zifu <naia_zifu@b.......> wrote:
  I'm sure he read it (or had it read to him) during his mortal lifetime.
I'm sure if he can remember all the little details of his life flashbacks,
he can remember biblical quotes ^_^ .

Naia Zifu (naia_zifu@b.......)
http://www.geocities.com/naia_zifu
It is what it is. . . so what is it?

> In regard to Nick. In the third season , there is a scene where Nick tops
> or completes various biblical >quotations. Proving he had and could read
> the bible. My question is was his reaction to this bible caused >by his
> knowledge he was going to lie or was it because of its use a more
> consecrated bible.



"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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