There are 18 messages totalling 468 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Father's Day flasback questions 2. Ship speeds in the twenties (3) 3. My NEW Romantic Fan Fiction! 4. Number of Names for Petitons (3) 5. Crossing the Pond 6. Various and Sundry 7. Alumni alert... Sort of..... 8. Old Roses 9. Pipe Dreams 10. lost digest 11. Canadian Prohibition (was Father's Day flasback questions) 12. FK font request 13. Esoteric History Questions 14. Lets try voting for FK on a different day... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 18:37:53 -0400 From: "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......> Subject: Re: Father's Day flasback questions > >1. How long would a trans-Atlantic crossing of time take? > A week or less, depending on the ship and the weather. I think the record > was three days, but that about five was more normal. I did research for an unfinished fic that has post WWI flashbacks, and found reference that it would take ten days by freighter from LeHavre, France to New York City. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:05:32 -0400 From: mclisa@m....... Subject: Ship speeds in the twenties Cindy Clark points out in commenting on my estimate of about a week or a bit less for a ship crossing from presumably France to New York in the Father's Day flashback: >I did research for an unfinished fic that has post WWI flashbacks, and found >reference that it would take ten days by freighter from LeHavre, France to >New York City. Well, yes, but it should be noted that passenger liners were built for speed and were intended to be faster than freighters. However, I don't recall evidence that Nick was on a passenger liner, except that the trunk looked to me like something a traveller would take on such a liner. The 10 days and freighter scenario certainly makes sense. Cousin McLisa (Lisa McDavid) "That will be Trouble." mclisa@m....... Listowner Forkni-l, Fkfic-l, Fkv4s-l ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:08:51 -0500 From: Lauren <lauren1228@m.......> Subject: My NEW Romantic Fan Fiction! Hey Everyone! I have just updated with romantic FK Fan fiction :) I know I just annouced another big update yesterday. But, I really want you to check it out and sign my Dream Book too :) I'm also looking for someone who is interested in writing a Nick and Lover story for me? EX. Nick with girls from the past or Nick and Flirty vampire. just email me! I'm also looking for someone who is interested in writing a Nick and Nat story for me? Il give you credit by saying who wrote this and there email address please email me if your interested! THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Hope you all like the IB one I wrote! If you would also like your Fan fiction Link added just tell me so! Have LOTS of fun!!!!!!! :) Lauren http://members.xoom.com/vampirekiss3/nick_jan_page/webpage/ :) :) :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:05:43 -0500 From: deb <totoq@r.......> Subject: Re: Ship speeds in the twenties FYI - In 1844 a predecessor of our family crossed from England to New York ... it took 6 weeks ... way too long for a vamp ... deb in KS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:16:03 EDT From: WRDRR@a....... Subject: Re: Number of Names for Petitons In a message dated 5/28/00 10:43:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kris1228@s....... writes: << You can help make them hit 1,000! >> Great job! Five huzzahs to Kristin for getting this together. Casting T. F. Stone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:17:20 EDT From: KaAG@a....... Subject: Re: Ship speeds in the twenties In a message dated 5/29/00 11:14:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, totoq@r....... writes: << took 6 weeks ... way too long for a vamp ... >> not necessarily... as long as it was a *passenger* ship with lots of guests... a vamp could be quite comfortable ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:21:53 -0500 From: Lauren <lauren1228@m.......> Subject: Re: Number of Names for Petitons Good job indeed sis! :) Lauren your sweet sister! :) -----Original Message----- From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......]On Behalf Of WRDRR@a....... Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 10:16 PM To: FORKNI-L@l....... Subject: Re: Number of Names for Petitons In a message dated 5/28/00 10:43:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kris1228@s....... writes: << You can help make them hit 1,000! >> Great job! Five huzzahs to Kristin for getting this together. Casting T. F. Stone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 20:29:31 -0700 From: Storm Born <the_stormborn@y.......> Subject: Crossing the Pond --- deb <totoq@r.......> wrote: >>In 1844 a predecessor of our family crossed from England to New York ... it took 6 weeks ... way too long for a vamp ...<< Well, *but* <g>... We know that Nick and the Family were in America several times during the 'age of sail,' when a crossing did indeed take as long as six weeks. I can only conclude that either 1) they resorted to feeding off the ships' rats or 2) a few passengers must have succumbed to a mysterious 'wasting disease.' ===== Molly/StormBorn FKPagan/Cousin/Seducer/Ravenette/DT/Who's Army Legionnaire LaCroix: Punk Enough the_stormborn@y....... Voicemail:1-888-Excite2, ext. 0786762676 (0stormborn) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:09:19 +0000 From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......> Subject: Re: Number of Names for Petitons Thank you! :) It's over 1,000 now, thanks to you all for signing. Kristin -----Original Message----- From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......]On Behalf Of WRDRR@a....... Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:16 AM To: FORKNI-L@l....... Subject: Re: Number of Names for Petitons In a message dated 5/28/00 10:43:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kris1228@s....... writes: << You can help make them hit 1,000! >> Great job! Five huzzahs to Kristin for getting this together. Casting T. F. Stone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:16:49 -0500 From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@m.......> Subject: Re: Various and Sundry From: Storm Born <the_stormborn@y.......> > Who else is going to LCA3? I'd like to meet as many > FK fans as possible while I'm there. I'm going -- look for us in the bar! The lower portion is conducive to discussions lasting until 2 am. <g> Nancy Kaminski nancykam@m....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 00:28:01 EDT From: MrsMech@a....... Subject: Alumni alert... Sort of..... I was checking out my onscreen guide of channels and found a channel called 'Odyssey'. I was all excited when I found out that they play some of my favourite shows like 'The Young Riders' and 'Beauty and The Beast' when all of a sudden I realized that they also show 'Avonlea'! The episode showing tomarrow is 'A Woman of Importance'. I'm not sure where Nigel's eps are (before or after) this ep, and would like it if someone could let me know so that I can catch it. Thanks, Monique ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 00:19:55 -0400 From: Erika Wilson <wilsone1@e.......> Subject: Old Roses Molly, (and yes, you would do well to tremble at her return) asked about Ye Olde Roses: > it's my understanding that the multi-petaled > roses that are common today weren't developed until > after what we would call the Middle Ages; that the > roses known there were more along the lines of wild > roses <<Ahem>> Waaaaay back when I was a dewy-eyed fanfic writer (as compared to my current bleary-eyed state) I wrote a story called "Teardrops" (Plug? What plug?) timed just prior to the flashback in "Be My Valentine" and set in a rose garden. At the time I did a bit of research on early European Rosiculture and my interest continues. The Greek Historian Herodatus wrote of a sixty-blossomed rose grown by King Midas in the 6th century B.C., Pliny the Elder mentioned a hundred-petalled rose (presumably prior to the Vesuvius eruption) and frescoes in Pompeii show semi-double roses quite clearly. The tight-budded modern tea rose is indeed a very recent development. Ancient roses were looser with five petal varieties abounding, but ancient societies used roses for perfume, confetti, sweetmeats, medicines, etc., and cultivated them, in numerous forms, for millenia. After the fall of Rome, the rose fell out of favor as being too closely associated with pagan cultures. It was revived as a symbol of the cult of Mary and by the 12th century, the rosary (occasionally made of dried rose hips) was being used by Monks to count their Hail Marys. And so, roses quietly grown in monastery gardens during the dark ages were freely dispersed for widespread cultivation across Europe. Rosa Gallica Officinalis (possibly the Lancaster Rose) is thought to have been brought back from the 7th Crusade in 1250 by Thibault IV. Other roses of the day were the Albas and the Damasks. There now, wasn't that *much* more than you ever wanted to know about old roses? > Also, were moonflowers known in the 12th century? Mmmmm, not sure what flower you're referring to. More info? Erika <wilsone1@e.......> "My friends often use the term 'pedantic' when referring to me. I can't imagine why." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 07:55:49 -0700 From: "Kelly C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......> Subject: Re: Pipe Dreams Hi all. Just wanted to apologize for not getting back to you sooner. I am posting part twenty-one to fkfic-l today and I will work on sending the next parts out, ASAP. My family decided on a 'quick' trip to Southern California for Memorial Day weekend. 1,080 miles (round trip) in three days... I'm exhausted!!! Thanks for being patient with me. Love to all. KC Smith tigrlady2u@j....... Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies. "I've never met a chocolate I didn't like." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:37:19 -0500 From: Monica Thadine Rodriguez <mrodri14@u.......> Subject: lost digest mclisa, would have written you personally, but i'm missing a lot of addies right now with my new mailer. i just deleted the last couple of digest posts, (still getting the hang of this) and was wondering if there's a place i can get them, like the webpages for egroups/onelist and others. or if someone has them, can they forward them to me??? thanks! monica luscious lucius lover ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 May 1980 12:19:39 -0600 From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......> Subject: Re: Canadian Prohibition (was Father's Day flasback questions) Canada _did_ have Prohibition, but it worked a bit differently from in the States. It was brought in as provincial legislation, rather than a constitutional amendment; Prince Edward Island was the first province to go "dry", in 1901, and by WWI, Prohibition was nation-wide, with no brewing or distilling at all. After the war, brewers & distillers were allowed to operate, as long as their products were strictly for export. Exporting alcohol to the U.S. was legal under Canadian law, but it wasn't legal to export to "dry" provinces. The first province to go "wet" again was Quebec, in 1919, which was a real boon for Quebec tourism--that was the year before the US passed Prohibition! Ontario repealed prohibition in 1927. In most provinces, Prohibition was replaced by a government monopoly on wholesale & retail liquor sales, under provincial "Liquor Control Boards", which most provinces still have today. (Alberta scrapped its retail monopoly about 10 years ago, so Albertans can now buy cold beer!) During prohibition, you could get a legal prescription for "medicinal" alcohol--apparently there were big line-ups at the pharmacies around Christmas! Some provinces had exemptions for locally-made wine. There were also illegal sources like moonshine, liquor smuggling, and speakeasies (also called "blind pigs"). The last province to repeal Prohibition was Prince Edward Island, in 1948. Almost all this information comes from _The Canadian Encyclopedia_. Sorry, no explicit mention of the Mafia, or even "organized crime". Your humble & obedient servant, Ligeia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 13:30:38 -0700 From: Bonnie <callalily@l.......> Subject: FK font request Does anyone have the FOREVER KNIGHT font as a .ttf file?? DO NOT SENT IT TO THE LIST! Please write to me privately if you do. Thanks so much, Bonnie <callalily@l.......> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:46:08 EDT From: MRKKaye@a....... Subject: Re: Esoteric History Questions In a message dated 5/28/2000 3:33:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, the_stormborn@y....... writes: << Also, were moonflowers known in the 12th century? >> According to Kruger's Guide to Herbs, moonflowers (aka Jimson Weed, thornapple, mad apple, or devil's apple) were used by the high priestess at Apollo's Oracle at Delphi. This dates it back to at least 500 BC. Marla K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:28:07 +0000 From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......> Subject: Lets try voting for FK on a different day... Like today! Go ahead and place your votes today, instead of the end of the week for a switch. Lets see if that will help. IMPORTANT: Who is the multiple "anonymous??" I saw LOTS of anonymous votes from the 27th. Afterwards FK dropped to 10! Please don't vote with multiple e-mails. You are only hurting the position. It will only LOWER your weight because they DO reconize multiple ISP addesses. And please sign up with your name so you can weigh worth more on the chart. The only way it will climb is if we do the two things listed below... #1. IMPORTANT: Those of you who are not on High Levels please simply amswer your questions on the personal card about gender, birth,etc. It's very simple and does not take long and it REALLY helps your weight on the charts. If every one can get up to HIGH level, it can really help FK's position! If you have questions about this please feel free to ask me off-list. #2. NEW VOTERS: We REALLY need NEW voters who have never voted for FK before on the chart. Please, if you have not voted before click on the address below, and then click I'm a New User. Then follow the easy rules to sign up. We really need you! (and don't forget this chart is sent in to TPTB monthly with the petitions!) To vote for FK go here: http://www.global100.com/item.asp?Item=51259 Any questions, feel free to mail me! Thank you for voting! :) Kristin ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 29 May 2000 to 30 May 2000 (#2000-157) ***************************************************************
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