FORKNI-L
Digest - 13 Aug 2013 to 15 Aug 2013 (#2013-125)
Thu, 15 Aug 2013
There are 5 messages totaling 176 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Birthday
2. "Last Act" - yet more discussion (4)
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 03:53:53 +0000
From: Doņa Angel <kameko58@h.......>
Subject: Birthday
Since I have not seen this mentioned on-list...
as a loyal Vaq I figure this day cannot end without honorable mention of its
most awesome significance...
Ahem:
On this very day (or night) in the year 1968, in the city of Baltimore, of
the State of Maryland, in the United States of America, Benjamin Langer Bass
was born. We know him here as Ben Bass who graciously and most awesomely and
unforgettably brought OUR Most Glorious Javier Vachon to unlife for us!
For this, on behalf of Vaqs everywhere I extend our grateful thanks to
Mr. Bass as well as our Birthday Congrats + Best Wishes for continued success
+ much happiness for him + his lovely wife --if he's reading from somewhere!!!
~Muchas Gracias para siempre!
~Angel~ VaqDreamingVaquera + INCArnate,wi RP + NA Tendencies
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:58:31 -0400
From: Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Re: "Last Act" - yet more discussion
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013, Walt said:
> I believe that later on in the series it was implied that
> vampires could make normal human love, but there would
> be a tendency that when climaxing they would bite their
> partner as part of the culminating act.
I'm not sure it was ever actually *implied*, but it was certainly inferred!
It's probably the most common interpretation among FK fans, if only because
it affords the best of both interpretations from a writer's perspective.
One can use it to block Nick and Natalie consummating their love, *or* use
it to justify a story in which Nat wants Nick to bring her over, *or* use it
as extra motivation for Nick to follow Nat's directions for a cure, *or*
contrive a clever way to satisfy the condition while leaving Nick as a
vampire and Natalie as human
> Finally, I think an important perspective is that of the
> fan - viewer - reader and just how much he or she
> wants to see Nick and Nat get it on.
Oh, yes! And, to elaborate a bit: how much they want to write the pair of
them in bed *now*. For, right now, Nick is vampire and Natalie is mortal;
and, if you can't change the former and don't want to change the latter,
then you are going to have to work *something* out. Interpreting canon to
suit your preference is, by far, the simplest solution.
> An interesting physiological aspect that I don't think
> has been addressed is that the human sexual response
> system is essentially hydrolic, and the fluid used is blood
I'm pretty sure I brought it up in the *notes* to one of my FK4 episodes;
but yeah--on the whole, fan writers aren't big on actually dissecting
vampires to see how the systems would have to work. It goes hand in hand
with the lack of lab work in scenes set at the morgue. Natalie is a
pathologist; but people just don't know enough medical science to write a
scene that is goof-free.
Also, of course, in the sex department, it might lead to a discussion of
various mechanical contrivances, such as pumps. I suspect a lot of
fans--like people in real life--see this level of necessary preparation as
spoiling the spontaneity. A bit too real for the romance-writers. It could
be employed for humour, I guess. (I suspect, in real life, a healthy sense
of humour would be a great assistance to people in such a situation.)
Ah, if only vampires could use Viagra!
Greer
gwatson2@r.......
http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:41:50 -0700
From: Andrew Caruthers <slinter@j.......>
Subject: Re: "Last Act" - yet more discussion
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:58:31 -0400 Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
writes:
>
> Ah, if only vampires could use Viagra!
>
>
> Greer
>
> gwatson2@r.......
> http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/
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Well, getting it in sufficient quantities is hard. The competetion is
stiff!
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 16:49:16 -0400
From: Laura Davies <bratling2@g.......>
Subject: Re: "Last Act" - yet more discussion
Well, getting it in sufficient quantities is hard. The competetion is
> stiff!
> ____________________________________________________________
>
*snork* *clears throat* Ahem. Sorry. Considering that they only seem to
be able to properly digest blood-based substances, first you'd have to
figure out how to make viagra blood based, and.... Honestly? Since sex
makes the heart rate and such speed up, I always assumed that during such
an act, vampires' pulses and respiration would approach the low end of
human normal during the act.
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:50:59 -0700
From: Andrew Caruthers <slinter@j.......>
Subject: Re: "Last Act" - yet more discussion
All true, from a physiological standpoint. But after all, the stuff is
rigidly controlled!
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 16:49:16 -0400 Laura Davies <bratling2@g.......>
writes:
> Well, getting it in sufficient quantities is hard. The competetion is
> > stiff!
> > ____________________________________________________________
> >
>
> *snork* *clears throat* Ahem. Sorry. Considering that they only seem to
> be able to properly digest blood-based substances, first you'd have to
> figure out how to make viagra blood based, and.... Honestly? Since sex
> makes the heart rate and such speed up, I always assumed that during such
> an act, vampires' pulses and respiration would approach the low end of
> human normal during the act.
>
>
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