There are 16 messages totalling 437 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Highlander GWD question 2. TO SLEEP WITH A VAMPIRE 3. Nick and Wrigley Field 4. Any Listmembers in Columbia, South Carolina? 5. Capt. Kirk to Nick - v.2 6. Fan Fic Clothing Question (3) 7. FK Novel Still Available 8. [Re: [FORKNI-L] Fan Fic Clothing Question] (2) 9. [Re: [FORKNI-L] Capt. Kirk to Nick - v.2] 10. Nick in VietNam (3) 11. Blitz for the Knight Day 13 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:40:33 EDT From: Enid Rodriguez <LadyEnid512@a.......> Subject: Highlander GWD question Hi there; I need some info and would be very grateful if some knowledgeable fan could help, In "Turnabout," the episode of Highlander were GWD quest starred as Michael Moore/Quentin Barnes. I need some to clear up the following: What kind of sword did Michael/Quentin use? Please, I need to know what type it is with a brief description.....it's VERY important. E-mail me OFFLIST, so we don't cloud the list. Thanks a bunch in advance, -Enid LadyEnid512@a....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:42:52 EDT From: MLCVamp@a....... Subject: Re: TO SLEEP WITH A VAMPIRE This 1992 movie is a remake of a 1988 film, DANCE OF THE DAMNED. Given the extremely close similarity between the 2, the later one can't have been significantly influenced by FK. I have no idea why anyone felt it necessary to remake such an obscure movie (undeservedly so -- J. Gordon Melton calls it one of the greatest vampire films ever made, and while I might not go that far, DANCE OF THE DAMNED has a unique freshness that sets it apart from the vast horde of derivative vampire movies over the years), esp. when the 2 scripts are almost verbally identical at many points. Another illustration of the fact that the "tormented vampire" character has long since become, so to speak, the "common property" of the genre. What I like about this pair of films is the unabashed ALIENNESS of the vampire. (Literally as well as emotionally -- he belongs to another species; he's not a supernatural revenant.) Aside from being tormented, he has practically NO resemblance to Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:13:37 -0500 From: Tracysue <tracysue@i.......> Subject: Re: Nick and Wrigley Field Carla Martinek wrote: > > > THEN AGAIN, Nick might have been in Vietnam with French or other forces that > were there many years prior to U.S. involvement. That could *really* throw a > timeline off! Since Lacroix was there worrying over his plantations, I always assumed that Nick was in Vietnam in the early years of the war. (didn't most of the plantation-owning french pull out of vietnam long before the Americans did?) -- Tracy Sue Vaquera http://members.xoom.com/tracysue1/Library.html fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to cooler costumes, better weapons and your own Estrogen Brigade. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:46:07 -0400 From: Will Steeves <goid@i.......> Subject: Any Listmembers in Columbia, South Carolina? Hi y'all! :-) I'm going to be in Columbia, SC for the weekend, and I thought that I'd drop a note saying that I'd love to meet any local listmembers who'd like to meet a fellow "listie" on such short notice. I always try to meet fellow listmembers in other cities, especially fellow listmembers to whom I've given the Toronto FK filming sites tour. :-) Now, just so that you know - being the "ignorant tourist" that I am, I'm probably going to ask for the "local view" on (what else) "the flag issue". If you can possibly put up with talking about that for just a little bit more, I'd be happy to listen to what you have to say, because I'm sure that what I'm seeing in the media isn't necessarily "the whole story". I'll be leaving in about three hours, so I don't suppose that I'm going to be bombarded with replies on short notice. Mind you, if you see this note before 9pm or 10pm today and are interested in getting together, please drop me a line because I may still be here to get it. Cheers, W., aka Curious Cousin Will, Forever Tourist and volunteer tour guide --- Will Steeves, goid@i....... - "Neil Hull is GOiD", "GOiDS Rule", etc. Proud Member of FREE (http://www.vix.com/free); Nu '97, Psi Upsilon Temporary Kentuckian - Amazing, I can finally see the BLUE grass! My Temporary Home Page: http://home.ican.net/~goid Get Paid to Surf: http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=JBC211 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:51:27 EDT From: MRKKaye@a....... Subject: Re: Capt. Kirk to Nick - v.2 Take your pick. 1. William Shatner wrote and acted(Walter H Bascom) in 'Tek Wars' with a. Von Flores (Tran - Can't Run, Can't Hide) b. David Hemblen (Dr. Max Wenderwal - Sons of Belial) c. Maurice Dean Wint (Francesca) 2. Both WS and GWD were raised in Canada 3. Both WS and GWD are Aries M. Kaye ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:16:52 -0000 From: Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......> Subject: Fan Fic Clothing Question What is the correct term for the garments equivalent to trousers a Crusader would have worn? Thanks, Barb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:54:53 -0400 From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......> Subject: Re: Fan Fic Clothing Question Barbara Vainio wrote: > > What is the correct term for the garments equivalent to trousers a Crusader > would have worn? Well -- he wouldn't have worn trousers. His legs would have been protected by thigh-high woolen hose (cut from cloth and seamed up the back, not knitted), gartered with linen strips. He would probably have worn braies, basically loose-fitting underpants of lightweight linen gathered onto a drawstring, or sometimes a more substantial belt. These would have come to the knee or slightly above, and would be covered by his shirt (sherte) and the tunic (bliaut) he wore over it. Whatever else they messed up in Queen of Harps, the got the length of Nick's costume right. Jokes about women wearing the braies (i.e., "the pants in the family") were a medieval staple. The next step in fashion came not long after Nick was brought across. Outer garments got much shorter, and so did the underpants ("slops"). Hose became longer and more tailored to the leg, with a sole built in so that no separate boot or shoe was required. Hose and were tied with tapes to the waistband of the underwear, and the bottom legs of the slops were tucked into the hose. Some men didn't wear any underpants, but simply tucked or tied their shirts between their legs to cover themselves front and back. This was precarious -- imagine the potential for exposure. As overgarments got even shorter, the hose were sewn together up the back. This sounds more modest, but there were complaints from clergy about the fact that when a man bent over you could see the outline of his equipment as if it had been painted a gaudy color! Eventually (we're talking Renaissance) the codpiece was created to provide front coverage. ----- Mary mcombs@e....... N&Npacker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 01:05:18 EDT From: JeanG477@a....... Subject: FK Novel Still Available Posted with McLisa's kind permission: Copies of the FOREVER KNIGHT novel ON HOLY GROUND are still available. For ordering info., go to http://members.aol.com/JeanB7 and click on the FOREVER KNIGHT ad. Thanks to everyone who's ordered the book so far, and to all of you who've sent comments. Feedback is always nice. :-) Cheers, --Jean Graham ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:06:58 CDT From: "Emily M.Hanson" <emily.m.hanson@u.......> Subject: Re: [Re: [FORKNI-L] Fan Fic Clothing Question] Besides which, trousers or breeches, whatever you want to call them, wouldn't have fit too well under plate armor. Maybe if he wore chain mail, but then he'd have some kind of protective leggings, too. Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......> wrote: Barbara Vainio wrote: > > What is the correct term for the garments equivalent to trousers a Crusader > would have worn? Emily M. Hanson http://www.starbase-eprime.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:17:43 CDT From: "Emily M.Hanson" <emily.m.hanson@u.......> Subject: Re: [Re: [FORKNI-L] Capt. Kirk to Nick - v.2] However much they have in common, Ger is *much* better looking, and from what I've heard, actually appreciates his fans. Vs. William Shatner, who doesn't seem to like fans of Trek. Okay,before the Trek fans on the list flame me for that, I am a Trek fan myself, I just think Ger is a heckuva lot better actor. Emily M. Hanson http://www.starbase-eprime.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:26:21 -0500 From: "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......> Subject: Re: [Re: [FORKNI-L] Fan Fic Clothing Question] > Emily M.Hanson > Besides which, trousers or breeches, whatever you want to > call them, wouldn't > have fit too well under plate armor. > > Maybe if he wore chain mail, but then he'd have some kind of > protective > leggings, too. Nick would have worn chain mail, because when he was mortal plate armor hadn't been invented yet. Nancy Kaminski nancykam@m....... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:14:08 -0400 From: Judith A Cataldo <JUDYCAT@p.......> Subject: Re: Fan Fic Clothing Question For info on period clothing might I suggest you go to www.costumes.org which is a website created by the costume dept at the Univ of Alaska at Fairbanks. There are photos as well as info for every period of history as well as links to other sites for info and how-to's, so you can make your very own FK costume. I have tons of books on period clothing yet I still find this site invaluable. I also like her section on "Dumpster Diver Decor". Maybe Screed could use it? Judy judycat@p....... http://pages.prodigy.net/judycat ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:51:46 -0400 From: mclisa@m....... Subject: Nick in VietNam I've seen both the jacket and the dogtags for LC in the episode, as Nigel auctioned both at cons for charity. The time was definitely the US Viet Nam War. The jacket has the name of a bomber unit and the slogan "Fly with the Best, Die with the Rest" on it. The dogtags listed LC's religion as Rosicrucian. Cousin McLisa (Lisa McDavid) "That will be Trouble." mclisa@m....... Listowner Forkni-l, Fkfic-l, Fkv4s-l ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:29:08 +0000 From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......> Subject: Blitz for the Knight Day 13 It's day 13 of the Feedback Blitz!! Go ahead and e-mail the two powers that be below asking for what you desire in the Knight (you can also re-use your letters for this 2 week blitz)... 1. Sci-fi: feedback@w....... 2. Tristar/Sony: http://www.spe.sony.com/spe/help_feedback_index.html .................................................. Forget what the blitz is about? Read below: It looks like these blitzes we have been doing are getting some attention! So we at KtK, are going to turn them into a monthly routine. This month we are focusing on the two main powers, Tristar and Sci-fi. Its going to be a double dose of e-mails from each of you the fans that would love to not only have FK back on Sci-fi's schedule, but want to make sure everyone knows that we are want more FK with the original cast in new episodes and or movies!! So, what do you say? Are you ready to sit down, take that few minutes and send off two e-mails? It could make all the difference in the world! Remember, say a little or say a lot, but say it!! We can make more FK happen!!! June 12th, through June 24th, we are asking everyone to blitz both feedbacks!!! For the two weeks, you can re-use the e-mails you did before, or write new ones. They can be long, or as short as just saying, "Bring Back Forever Knight." ALSO REMEMBER!! Sci-fi will be changing its schedule around in June, and again in the fall.... lets make sure that we get Forever Knight on!!! Sci-Fi's E-mail: feedback@w....... Sony/Tristar Mail Form: http://www.spe.sony.com/spe/help_feedback_index.html When e-mailing TriStar,(especially) give as much personal info as you can...rather than just an e-mail name. A bit more personal carries more weight with TPTB. I also made a button/banner for the upcoming blitzing, which you can use to help spread the word, by putting this on your site (you can get off my save fk page). http://members.xoom.com/forever_nick/Forever_Knight ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:11:07 -0400 From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......> Subject: Re: Nick in VietNam mclisa@m....... wrote: > > The jacket has the name of a bomber unit and the slogan "Fly with the > Best, Die with the Rest" on it. The dogtags listed LC's religion as > Rosicrucian. I love it when prop masters have a sense of humor! ----- Mary mcombs@e....... N&Npacker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:29:57 -0500 From: Rebecca Hinson <thanato@b.......> Subject: Re: Nick in VietNam mclisa@m....... wrote: > The dogtags listed LC's religion as > Rosicrucian. Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Rosicrucian"? :) Becky ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 23 Jun 2000 to 24 Jun 2000 (#2000-182) ***************************************************************
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