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Digest - 23 Oct 2013 to 24 Oct 2013 (#2013-163)

Thu, 24 Oct 2013

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Topics of the day:

  1. Discussing "Dying to Know You" and history

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Date:    Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:10:33 -0700
From:    Andrew Caruthers <slinter@j.......>
Subject: Re: Discussing "Dying to Know You" and history

  Too bad Nick and LaCroix couldn't have had Cromwell over for a little
snack.  :D





On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:55:54 -0400 Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
writes:
> It's been a while since I last posted any discussion of Forever Knight
> episodes.  The last time, I was looking at "Dying to Know You" in terms of
> the paranormal.  This time, I'd like to look at its flashback--or, more
> accurately, fans' analysis of the setting.
>
> Time and place, that's "setting" as I understand it.  For some episodes,
> this is crystal clear.  Sometimes, it's actually labelled on screen at the
> start of the historical scenes.  In others, it's inherent in the story (as
> in "Unreality TV", with its flashback to the American Civil War).  In other
> episodes, though, there are problematic elements that make dating
> difficult.
>
> Fans are naturally interested in *when* things happened in Nick's life; and
> this has led to two major (and very familiar) timelines being drawn up.  One
> of them, on the First Unofficial FK Site, focused more on using costume to
> determine the probable date.  The other, on Amy R.'s Bright Knight site,
> used external sources.  Mostly, they agree.  Occasionally, they don't.  In
> the case of "Dying to Know You", though, the two timelines pretty well
> agree.
>
> The historical *date* is likely to be the 17th century, for Nick's friend
> Matthew is a Puritan, a religious sect of Protestant Christianity that
> flourished at that time; and the clothes the characters wear are consistent
> with that date.  In addition, both timelines place events in the United
> States--or, more accurately, somewhere in one of the colonies that
> eventually became the States (for, of course, the American Revolution didn't
> take place until the 18th century).
>
> When I saw the episode, on the other hand, it did not occur to me that the
> New World colonies might be the location of the flashback.  It seemed too
> early a period for Nick to have crossed the Atlantic.  It would be a long
> way to fly into the unknown; and a sea voyage would require heavy
> depredation on the crew while limiting the places where he might hide.
> Ships back then were small and crowded.
>
> I assumed the flashback to have taken place in England.
>
> In making this assumption, I was undoubtedly influenced by the fact that I
> come from recent British immigrants, and grew up on stories of the
> Roundheads and Cavaliers.  In kids' books, the Cavaliers were usually the
> heroes; but, in fact, my ancestors were mostly Parliamentarian supporters.
> At any rate, I knew that Puritans were numerous in England in the 17th
> century:  I put the flashback somewhere in mid-century, around the time of
> the English Civil War and the Commonwealth.  (If you're curious, you can
> read details in the Notes page to the "Puritans" article on the FK Wiki:
> http://foreverknight.wikia.com/wiki/Puritans )
>
> No doubt, Gaylin and Amy had their own reasons for assuming that the
> inclusion of Puritans had to mean that the flashback was set in the American
> colonies.
>
> I wonder how often our own background affects our interpretations of the
> episodes.
>
>
> Greer
>
> gwatson2@r.......
> http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/
>


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