There is 1 message totaling 115 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Discussing "Dying to Know You" and history ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:10:33 -0700 From: Andrew Caruthers <slinter@j.......> Subject: Re: Discussing "Dying to Know You" and history Too bad Nick and LaCroix couldn't have had Cromwell over for a little snack. :D On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:55:54 -0400 Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......> writes: > It's been a while since I last posted any discussion of Forever Knight > episodes. The last time, I was looking at "Dying to Know You" in terms of > the paranormal. This time, I'd like to look at its flashback--or, more > accurately, fans' analysis of the setting. > > Time and place, that's "setting" as I understand it. For some episodes, > this is crystal clear. Sometimes, it's actually labelled on screen at the > start of the historical scenes. In others, it's inherent in the story (as > in "Unreality TV", with its flashback to the American Civil War). In other > episodes, though, there are problematic elements that make dating > difficult. > > Fans are naturally interested in *when* things happened in Nick's life; and > this has led to two major (and very familiar) timelines being drawn up. One > of them, on the First Unofficial FK Site, focused more on using costume to > determine the probable date. The other, on Amy R.'s Bright Knight site, > used external sources. Mostly, they agree. Occasionally, they don't. In > the case of "Dying to Know You", though, the two timelines pretty well > agree. > > The historical *date* is likely to be the 17th century, for Nick's friend > Matthew is a Puritan, a religious sect of Protestant Christianity that > flourished at that time; and the clothes the characters wear are consistent > with that date. In addition, both timelines place events in the United > States--or, more accurately, somewhere in one of the colonies that > eventually became the States (for, of course, the American Revolution didn't > take place until the 18th century). > > When I saw the episode, on the other hand, it did not occur to me that the > New World colonies might be the location of the flashback. It seemed too > early a period for Nick to have crossed the Atlantic. It would be a long > way to fly into the unknown; and a sea voyage would require heavy > depredation on the crew while limiting the places where he might hide. > Ships back then were small and crowded. > > I assumed the flashback to have taken place in England. > > In making this assumption, I was undoubtedly influenced by the fact that I > come from recent British immigrants, and grew up on stories of the > Roundheads and Cavaliers. In kids' books, the Cavaliers were usually the > heroes; but, in fact, my ancestors were mostly Parliamentarian supporters. > At any rate, I knew that Puritans were numerous in England in the 17th > century: I put the flashback somewhere in mid-century, around the time of > the English Civil War and the Commonwealth. (If you're curious, you can > read details in the Notes page to the "Puritans" article on the FK Wiki: > http://foreverknight.wikia.com/wiki/Puritans ) > > No doubt, Gaylin and Amy had their own reasons for assuming that the > inclusion of Puritans had to mean that the flashback was set in the American > colonies. > > I wonder how often our own background affects our interpretations of the > episodes. > > > Greer > > gwatson2@r....... > http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/ > ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 23 Oct 2013 to 24 Oct 2013 (#2013-163) ***************************************************************
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