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Digest - 17 Aug 2013 to 18 Aug 2013 (#2013-128)

Sun, 18 Aug 2013

There are 4 messages totaling 164 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. "Last Act" - yet more discussion (2)
  2. Forever Knight factions
  3. Third Season


Date:    Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:00:32 -0700
From:    Andrew Caruthers <slinter@j.......>
Subject: Re: "Last Act" - yet more discussion

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 16:55:33 -0400 Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
> On 15 Aug 2013, Andrew wrote of Viagra:
> > Well, getting it in sufficient quantities is hard. The
> competetion
> > is stiff!
> Which is where the "whammy" comes in so handy!  (And that's assuming you
> don't know any vampire MDs.)
> Greer
   Yes. So rigidly unyielding.


Date:    Sat, 17 Aug 2013 23:42:53 -0400
From:    L McDavid <mclisa1014@g.......>
Subject: Re: "Last Act" - yet more discussion

Greer wrote in regard to vampires' getting prescriptions for Viagra:
"Which is where the "whammy" comes in so handy!  (And that's assuming
you don't know any vampire MDs"

I have a sudden vision of Natalie, after being talked into this by
Nick, dealing with a suspicious supply officer who has recognized the
scientific, chemical name for Viagra on her requisition. Even with her
talents that we saw when she had to produce pseudomedical excuses for
Nick, I don't know how she would explain needing the stuff as a
coroner. : )

McLisa, late at night and with her mind rolling downhill. <g>


Date:    Sun, 18 Aug 2013 16:32:51 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Forever Knight factions

Last year, if you recall, I made a whole series of icons for factions.
(Factions large, factions small, mock factions, invented factions, factions
still around, factions long forgotten....)  Even so, looking through faction
lists, I realize that there are names still unfamiliar.


Three factions that have turned up are related to changes in the series
during Season Three--things that many fans disliked.  As a result, some
rejected them.  Names were apparently created for such fans; and these names
appear on one or more faction lists.


    - the *Deniers*:  fans who refuse to accept Schanke's death in "Black
Buddha" (and apparently based fan fiction on the premise that he survived

    - the *Nevermores*:  fans who don't believe Janette was brought back
across by Nick at the end of "The Human Factor"

    - the *Redecorators*:  fans who hate what LaCroix did to the Raven in
Season Three

Anyone remember these?  Were the names in usage back then, as real or mock
factions?   And yes:  mock factions count, if the names were truly bandied
about on list.

I'll make icons, if it's justified.  (Trying for a complete set, y'know.)




Date:    Sun, 18 Aug 2013 16:53:52 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Re: Third Season

There were certainly changes in Season Three.  Personally, I rather liked
them.  Not that I was glad to lose Schanke and Janette.  (Perish the
thought.)  But I liked Tracy; and I thoroughly enjoyed the addition of new
vampires to the cast.

So did others, obviously.  I doubt if you'd get a Vaquera to describe Season
Three as "that relative who's not your favorite but they're still family."

If I have any regrets about Season Three, it's that they never did enough
with the new vampire characters.  Vachon and his crew fascinated me
throughout the first half of the season.  Then they more or less disappeared
until the last couple of episodes, when they were suddenly killed off.  If
TPTB had had the will, there's so much that they *could* have done to
develop them, both in relation to each other and in their interactions with
the established characters.  I was very disappointed by the second half of
Season Three.

I gather, at the time, people initially loathed Tracy--especially, I think,
because she was first interpreted as a blond ditz who'd been added to the
show purely for sex appeal.  However, within a very few episodes, the
writers (and the actor!) made her a strong, interesting character in her own
right.  It took fans longer to warm up to her than she deserved; but I
suspect that was more a reaction to the loss of Schanke than anything.

Sure, it would have been nice if TPTB had somehow managed an amalgamation of
the best of old and new.  However, considering the budget constraints, which
were especially tight in Season Three, there's no way they'd have added new
cast members without firing the old ones.

As for "Silk Stalkings", I never saw it.  I *think* I know what you're
referring to; but I'm wondering if I've interpreted your reference right.
Surely, there were similar scenes in previous episodes?  Just think of the
stripper at Jilly's in Season One.




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