FORKNI-L
Digest - 18 May 2013 to 19 May 2013 (#2013-69)
Sun, 19 May 2013
There are 10 messages totaling 457 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. FORKNI-L Digest - 17 May 2013 to 18 May 2013 (#2013-68)
2. Like it's 1992..? (7)
3. Like it's 1992... Picking the date & episodes
4. Like it's 1992..? - Picking a start date
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 17:08:30 -0400
From: Penny Thomas <drmusicpt@g.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 17 May 2013 to 18 May 2013 (#2013-68)
another "list oldie" checking in here. I'd love to do a re-watch and
discussion. I joined the list fairly early, but joined in on the discussions
in the second season. I knew FK was on in the first season as "Crimetime
after Primetime" but could never catch it until the second season came on.
Mid-June would be a good time to start as school is out and I'd have some time.
Penny
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 18:19:31 -0400
From: Nickis Mom <Nickismom1228@a.......>
Subject: Re: Like it's 1992..?
Ok let me say Im in CA. Have a 5-7pm second job, home most Fridays but
occasionally have family outings.
Very ill sister things are up in the air now, will be off for the summer
from day job, so that will give me more time to watch the show.
Jeannie
In a message dated 5/18/2013 10:46:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bratling2@g....... writes:
If we can figure out when... say Friday night? We could even meet and
have a live chat, too. They've been doing it in Lois and Clark for
years---every Saturday night, they meet at a certain time in the #lanekent
IRC channel and watch an episode together. ;) Pretty funny commentary
sometimes!
Laura (who would not mind opening up a chat to do this)
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......> wrote:
> Otto Maton asked:
>
>> Since there are so many active users who weren't there in 1992, I
>> was wondering: would anyone be down for watching the episodes
>> together at the same time more or less? And then discuss them like
>> it's 1992?
>>
>
> I think it's a great idea to do this! I'm another who wasn't on line back
> when the show was first on. There was still *some* discussion of episodes
> when I joined, but not the sort of thing that you're suggesting. We had a
> full go-through about...was it three years ago? Or four? (Time flies!)
> However, only a handful of people took part.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "discuss [the episodes] like it's
> 1992", though. I mean, we all *now* know how the series ended, and the
> backstory for LaCroix and Janette. There's a lot that wasn't in the pilot!
> Things did change, even over the first season. (Which in itself is a point
> to discuss.) New perspectives....
>
> I agree with you: there's always more to say.
>
> I wonder if this can maybe be combined with something else. There's a lot
> that still needs to be added to the wiki. Perhaps most obviously, we need
> to write proper episode summaries. At the moment, most of the articles on
> the individual episodes only have brief "TV Guide" style synopses. I'd
> also like to get more detail into the articles about the guest characters,
> locations, props, and the like. Rewatching the shows will get me to take
> notes--and maybe (says she hopefully), other people might lend a hand. For
> all the size of our wiki, there's a lot that's still undone.
>
> So...shall we start at the beginning, with "Dark Knight"? Or do people
> have other preferences?
>
>
> Greer
>
> gwatson2@r.......
> http://www.foreverknight.org/**FK4/ <http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/>
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 12:54:37 -0700
From: Otto Maton <auto17921111@h.......>
Subject: Like it's 1992..?
Will try to answer everyone but I see my previous email (responding to
Libby, Laura & Jeannie) hasn't posted yet. Which is part of the reason
why I'm really not in a position to "host" this: more often than not,
there's a huge delay in between I send an email and it is delivered
and well over 50% of the time, they never reach the list altogether.
By the time I venture a duplicate, it's been a week.
To KnightWitch: You actually OWN one of the show's real caddies??
That's ...WOW! No words... *Meltdown* Would love to hear how you
acquired it. If it's old news to the list feel free to email me
directly though I'm sure there must be other "newbies" who would like
to know as well, lucky lady!
To Laura: Friday nights has to be the worst time for me out of the
entire week! I don't think I can really join you there, sorry. But if
the majority wants that, then so be it. I'm not sure how a chat works
if you're on moderation either, would love to participate but because
of the aforementioned, not sure I'll be able to. How would the chat
work? (Sorry I got lost at "the #lanekent IRC channel") Did you mean
watch the episode together the prior hour and then discuss it? Sounds
very much like 1992, not sure everyone can participate that way but
I'd love to if the time/day is convenient.
To Greer: Good to have you on board!! Didn't know you did this so
recently. Might explain why most users haven't responded here. "Like
it's 1992" was just me providing an interesting title for the email.
Of course, it will never be like 1992, for the reasons you mentioned.
I meant discuss it with the same love for the show, even if the zeal
has dwindled down because it's never as good as the first time (I
think I'm quoting Sade here). So since you guys have done this, is
there some do's and don't's? Or, as long as we follow list rules, does
anything go? For example I'm not inclined to talk about plot holes but
I don't mind reading about that, I just don't think I can be good with
that. I'm more a subjective type. I'd love talking about props and
other detailed stuff... then again I might be wrong: someone might
bring up a plot hole and I might have something to say, particularly
if I've missed it and it's new to me. So let us know if there's
anything that's off limits.
So far as which episode to start with, I'd love it if it were the
beginning, yes. If no one objects, let's do that, but if someone
objects and prefers another... OH! Knight Witch: you can't join us
till June. Hmm... I hate to leave anyone out at the same time I'm
aching to do this now and not wait a month but I don't want to be
unfair. Are you cool with reading our posts and maybe joining from
memory? Or does everyone think we should start with random episodes
until KW can join us?? What's more fair to everyone?
Thanks and hope I haven't missed anyone who had a question. I hope my
previous reply posts and if it does not and I see this one, then I
will resend.
Otto
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 22:18:10 -0400
From: Laura Davies <bratling2@g.......>
Subject: Re: Like it's 1992..?
Otto, it doesn't have to be Friday. And it wouldn't be moderated because I
wouldn't be paying for it to be a permanent channel. I can talk you
through IRC and what network, and what channel and all that if people like
the idea. They way they work it is everyone meets at a prearranged
time--10 pm EST Friday night and at the same time, start the episode. And
as it's playing on our individual computers, we're typing commentary to
eachother. It's sorta like screaming at the screen a la "Mystery Science
Theatre 2000"....
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Otto Maton <auto17921111@h.......> wrote:
> Will try to answer everyone but I see my previous email (responding to
> Libby, Laura & Jeannie) hasn't posted yet. Which is part of the reason
> why I'm really not in a position to "host" this: more often than not,
> there's a huge delay in between I send an email and it is delivered
> and well over 50% of the time, they never reach the list altogether.
> By the time I venture a duplicate, it's been a week.
>
> To KnightWitch: You actually OWN one of the show's real caddies??
> That's ...WOW! No words... *Meltdown* Would love to hear how you
> acquired it. If it's old news to the list feel free to email me
> directly though I'm sure there must be other "newbies" who would like
> to know as well, lucky lady!
>
> To Laura: Friday nights has to be the worst time for me out of the
> entire week! I don't think I can really join you there, sorry. But if
> the majority wants that, then so be it. I'm not sure how a chat works
> if you're on moderation either, would love to participate but because
> of the aforementioned, not sure I'll be able to. How would the chat
> work? (Sorry I got lost at "the #lanekent IRC channel") Did you mean
> watch the episode together the prior hour and then discuss it? Sounds
> very much like 1992, not sure everyone can participate that way but
> I'd love to if the time/day is convenient.
>
> To Greer: Good to have you on board!! Didn't know you did this so
> recently. Might explain why most users haven't responded here. "Like
> it's 1992" was just me providing an interesting title for the email.
> Of course, it will never be like 1992, for the reasons you mentioned.
> I meant discuss it with the same love for the show, even if the zeal
> has dwindled down because it's never as good as the first time (I
> think I'm quoting Sade here). So since you guys have done this, is
> there some do's and don't's? Or, as long as we follow list rules, does
> anything go? For example I'm not inclined to talk about plot holes but
> I don't mind reading about that, I just don't think I can be good with
> that. I'm more a subjective type. I'd love talking about props and
> other detailed stuff... then again I might be wrong: someone might
> bring up a plot hole and I might have something to say, particularly
> if I've missed it and it's new to me. So let us know if there's
> anything that's off limits.
>
> So far as which episode to start with, I'd love it if it were the
> beginning, yes. If no one objects, let's do that, but if someone
> objects and prefers another... OH! Knight Witch: you can't join us
> till June. Hmm... I hate to leave anyone out at the same time I'm
> aching to do this now and not wait a month but I don't want to be
> unfair. Are you cool with reading our posts and maybe joining from
> memory? Or does everyone think we should start with random episodes
> until KW can join us?? What's more fair to everyone?
>
> Thanks and hope I haven't missed anyone who had a question. I hope my
> previous reply posts and if it does not and I see this one, then I
> will resend.
> Otto
>
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Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 23:19:53 -0700
From: Otto Maton <auto17921111@h.......>
Subject: Like it's 1992... Picking the date & episodes
Hi Libby, Laura, Jeannie & group,
Sorry for trimming what I wrote in my original "Like it's 1992"
message but here's a direct cut and paste: "We could make the week's
episode discussion say starting on Saturdays that way everyone can
watch whenever they can fit it in their schedule (Sun-Fri at leisure)
and then join the discussion on Sats." So, yes, when I said
"Saturday" that's the day to discuss the episode, absolutely. Would
that work for you Laura? You can discuss first thing in the am or
last at night or any time in between and everyone can join in the
discussion at any point. I picked Saturday being the weekend for most
people but again, general consensus here, whatever works for the
majority, I'm happy to follow.
Jeannie, I too would love to start from E01, S01 and it looks like
Libby would prefer that as well. If that works for Laura too, and
anyone else who reads this is motivated enough to join in the fun,
please speak up as everyone is welcome and everyone's voice will be
counted. If others prefer to call out episodes to watch, as I said,
I'm open to that too.
If Saturday May 25th is not too much rushing it, then we have one
week and I'd say start watching between now and then so we can
discuss some time on Saturday. This is an example. I'm not an expert
at leading anything or anyone so I hope no one takes these
suggestions as more than open discussion but we do have to decide at
some point and sometimes taking the plunge right away works.
Sometimes not. And if someone is better suited for hosting and would
like to wear that hat, I have no problem with that as well. I just
had the idea to suggest the common re-watch to the group but if
someone wants hosting duties speak now or forever... Knight! ;-) (I
guess what I'm saying is I have no idea how to lead a session/group
discussion but I could wing it if need be, all I can think of is to
remind the list to watch which episode and to remember to discuss the
following Sat...or whichever is the day we end up deciding on).
I hope what I've written is clear enough. I do know tone can't be
read (and this is where things can often get a bit sketchy) but I've
reread myself and I don't see anything questionable. If there's any
confusion, please re-read at least once, please assume the best of
good intentions and if still unclear, then please do ask.
Thank you everyone!
Otto
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 19:28:58 -0700
From: Otto Maton <auto17921111@h.......>
Subject: Re: Like it's 1992..?
It does sounds wonderful, MST2000 style!! I'm sorry but I'm lost at
the lingo: channel? what does this IRC mean? Are you saying it's
paying? Or free if it's temporary? Is it like a Meebo chatroom?
On Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM, "Laura Davies" wrote:Otto, it
doesn't have to be Friday. And it wouldn't be moderated because I
wouldn't be paying for it to be a permanent channel. I can talk you
through IRC and what network, and what channel and all that if people
like the idea. They way they work it is everyone meets at a prearranged
time--10 pm EST Friday night and at the same time, start the episode.
And as it's playing on our individual computers, we're typing commentary
to eachother. It's sorta like screaming at the screen a la "Mystery
Science Theatre 2000"....
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 04:19:20 +0000
From: nancykam@c.......
Subject: Re: Like it's 1992..?
> On Behalf Of Laura Davies
> Otto, it doesn't have to be Friday. And it wouldn't be moderated because I
> wouldn't be paying for it to be a permanent channel. I can talk you
> through IRC and what network, and what channel and all that
> if people like the idea. They way they work it is everyone meets at a prearranged
> time--10 pm EST Friday night and at the same time, start the
> episode. And as it's playing on our individual computers, we're typing
> commentary to eachother. It's sorta like screaming at the screen a la
> "Mystery Science Theatre 2000"....
Chiming in here--the UF has had a long-standing (but sadly recently pretty
quiet) chat on Friday evenings on the Undernet, channel #unnamedfaction. We
could certainly use that channel, it's seen precious little traffic in the
last month or so. The time is pretty flexible---I'm usually in the chat room
by 9 pm CDT.
If a live chat isn't feasible, there's no reason it can't be on the main list.
That way it really would be like 1992 (or at least like 1994, which is when I
discovered FORKNI-L). Ah, the good old days when I could expect 150 messages a
day...
Nancy Kaminski
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 00:20:52 -0400
From: Laura Davies <bratling2@g.......>
Subject: Re: Like it's 1992..?
Have no idea what meebo is. :) IRC is a chat program that's been around
*forever*. As in, it was around in in the 90s. Free download, or you
can pay a small fee for a license that never expires. I bought it at least
ten years ago and thus get my program updated for free every time they
release a new version. (They're on seven now, I believe... and I bought it
when they were on three) Anybody can open a channel or chatroom, but I
believe that it make it permanent and moderated for real, there's some sort
of fee to pay, but having never done it, I'm not sure. It's actually a
fairly easy program to use, though you *do* have to know where you're
going! (And that should have been Saturday night. :) It was Chip off the
Old Clark tonight... one of my favorites. ;) Had me complaining about the
completely put on Southern accent!)
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Otto Maton <auto17921111@h.......> wrote:
> It does sounds wonderful, MST2000 style!! I'm sorry but I'm lost at
> the lingo: channel? what does this IRC mean? Are you saying it's
> paying? Or free if it's temporary? Is it like a Meebo chatroom?
>
> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM, "Laura Davies" wrote:Otto, it
> doesn't have to be Friday. And it wouldn't be moderated because I
> wouldn't be paying for it to be a permanent channel. I can talk you
> through IRC and what network, and what channel and all that if people like
> the idea. They way they work it is everyone meets at a prearranged
> time--10 pm EST Friday night and at the same time, start the episode.
> And as it's playing on our individual computers, we're typing commentary
> to eachother. It's sorta like screaming at the screen a la "Mystery
> Science Theatre 2000"....
>
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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 22:00:46 -0700
From: "Lynn L. Sowinski" <lls761@y.......>
Subject: Re: Like it's 1992..?
I would be interested in discussing the eps, but not on IRC.
Lynn
If there are no dogs in heaven, when I die I want to go where they went. - Will
Rogers
Until he extends his circle of compassion to include all living things, man will
not himself find peace. - Dr. Albert Schweitzer
Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened. -
Anatole France
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From: Otto Maton <auto17921111@h.......>
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Sent: Sat, May 18, 2013 11:14:03 PM
Subject: Re: Like it's 1992..?
It does sounds wonderful, MST2000 style!! I'm sorry but I'm lost at
the lingo: channel? what does this IRC mean? Are you saying it's
paying? Or free if it's temporary? Is it like a Meebo chatroom?
On Saturday, May 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM, "Laura Davies" wrote:Otto, it
doesn't have to be Friday. And it wouldn't be moderated because I
wouldn't be paying for it to be a permanent channel. I can talk you
through IRC and what network, and what channel and all that if people
like the idea. They way they work it is everyone meets at a prearranged
time--10 pm EST Friday night and at the same time, start the episode.
And as it's playing on our individual computers, we're typing commentary
to eachother. It's sorta like screaming at the screen a la "Mystery
Science Theatre 2000"....
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 13:52:30 -0700
From: cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......>
Subject: Re: Like it's 1992..? - Picking a start date
I agree with the folks who would prefer to keep this on the main list. I work
2nd shift and can keep track of the List while I work, but can't chat in the
evenings. I also agree with those who would like to do this after graduations,
school lets out, and US Memorial Day weekend is over. As for the latter, it's
going to be pretty difficult to do something like this in the middle of
MediaWest Con, or to quote the late Susan Garrett upon being introduced to FK:
"Not another fandom!"
Cindy
Most people have minds like concrete: mixed up or permanently set.
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From: Otto Maton auto17921111@h.......
Great! Thanks for the awesome response! So which day works for
everybody?
How's Saturdays? Would starting on May 25th work for everyone?
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