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Digest - 20 Aug 2012 to 22 Aug 2012 (#2012-154)

Wed, 22 Aug 2012

There are 4 messages totalling 139 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Another LaCroix / Nightcrawler speech question (2)
  2. Dark Natties & NatVampCamp
  3. Sigs, and the things people put in them

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Date:    Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:08:44 -0700
From:    Victor Roscetti <dragonslair_08060@y.......>
Subject: Another LaCroix / Nightcrawler speech question

I need to know the translation of the French part at the end of this speech.
Or maybe the written French is incorrect? Can anyone help?  "Tonight your
Nightcrawler is ruminating on friendship. I say a friend  for life is a leech.
Someone who bleeds you. There is no real or lasting friendship, and no one is
to be trusted. Who will challenge me on this? Who does not believe that all
friendships must sour, slowly,  imperceptibly, comment les mains de la cloche."
my translator says that  means "How the hands of the bell" .... that does not
make sense to me  though.

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Date:    Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:01:54 -0500
From:    JM Freemon <jaciem87@g.......>
Subject: Re: Another LaCroix / Nightcrawler speech question

I'm not 100% certain, but IIRC from high school French class 25 years ago, I
believe that phrase (or something close) is a French idiom that translates as
"however tightly we cling".

Hope that helps,
jaciem

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comment les mains de la cloche."

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Date:    Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:33:08 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Dark Natties & NatVampCamp

On Sunday, 19 April, I asked the list who the NatVampCamp and Dark Natties
were.  Of course, it may be that people are assuming that I've been
overwhelmed with off-list e-mail.  If so, let me assure you that's not so.

Once again (sob!), you have forced me to do actual work.  Or at least actual
Googling.

As a result, I discovered that Ainsley's FK Page
(http://www.foreverknight.org/PleineLune/) gives only two factions for
Natalie:  the NatPack and Nat Vamp Camp.  (Hmmmm...suggests DNP and NVC same
thing).  However, the Forever Knight Faction List's links page lists two
"dark Nat" Yahoo! Groups:  the DNP-L for the Dark NatPackers, and Forever
Nat  for the NatVampCamp.  (Suggests they're *not* the same; but I know this
faction list has had errors in it.)

Ha!  AngelofSnow's LJ has an entry from 2006
(http://angelofsnow.livejournal.com/17381.html) in which (among other
things) she lists her factions.  Both the Dark NatPack and the NatVampCamp
are listed!  If *one* individual claims membership in *both* factions, then
they must be different!

Conclusion:  I need to make a NatVampCamp icon.

(Unless told otherwise, I'm going to assume that "Dark Natties" is an early
name for members of the Dark NatPack.  No one seems to list both at the same
time.)


Greer

gwatson2@r.......
http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/



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Date:    Wed, 22 Aug 2012 01:09:43 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Sigs, and the things people put in them

As I peruse old digests, posts to Yahoo! Groups, and the like, I keep coming
across long, long sigs in which people declare their affiliation to
everything under the sun.  Sometimes they mention things that are clearly
not FK.  Sometimes they are clearly making jokes.  Sometimes the references
are utterly obscure.

So here are few things I need help interpreting:

1.  Carl Nicastro signed himself with (among other things):  The Raven
Club(Founder); FK: The Dark Ages (Founder); FKID; Ravennc.  (NOTE:  it's not
the meaning of "Founder" that I don't get!)

2.  Deb (on a post to the Dark Tower Yahoo!Group on 14 Mar 2003) includes
the "Nuke-em's" in a list of factions.  (Also, she included the Hidden
Yankees, which are based on the Sons of Lilith series, whose factions April
*assured* me were purely a joke and had no members.  Well, for the sake of
my sanity, I'm going to believe April on this!)

3.  Molly/StormBorn sometimes included "Forum Fanatic" among the other
affiliations in her sig.

4.  At least once, Pat Witham signed herself "Knightie and D.O.B.".  (It is
not the "Knightie" that's the problem.)

5.  And, at least once, Allison Percy signed herself "Froggie or Knightie??"
(And it's *still* not the "Knightie" that's the problem!)

No doubt there are more.  However, that's quite enough to be getting on
with.


Greer

gwatson2@r.......
http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/


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