There are 3 messages totalling 158 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. the 1st War (2) 2. The 1st war ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:46:45 -0400 From: Jean Prior <phoenix@s.......> Subject: Re: the 1st War Actually, the posts the past couple of days had me fishing through my archives to see what I could find. And OMG, I'm something of a packrat (I have email from 1996, for pity's sake!) However, I wasn't /that/ bad of a packrat back in those days. I /believe/ I have some older archives, but to be honest, I wasn't on digest back in the day, and I never really kept good archives then. And I think some of them might be on actual floppies... y'know, the kind that still flopped? Back then, no one was expecting we'd all be here in 2011, so I don't think anyone made a huge point of keeping archives of all the emails that were flying back and forth. I should email Bill Verity sometime (our postmaster) and see if Penn State ever archived this sorta thing on dusty tape or anything. I know factions started up probably due to the first War, or at least people realized 'HEY! This person's on my side!' and folks just kinda naturally coagulated. I honestly don't remember who complained about getting attacked in that first War, but I do remember that we always made a point of ensuring that participants were willing participants, no powerposing on unsuspecting folks. I vaguely recall it was someone who wasn't asked at first and that's what caused the official rule: no attacking folks who didn't want to participate. Anyway... it's 2011. I started this in December 1992. Next year will be our TWENTIETH YEAR. We should totally plan for some kind of huge fan gathering somewhere with t-shirts and buttons and invite the cast members to join us if they want. Cos dang, that is a big deal, IMHO. Who wants to take the lead on organizing this thing? Jaye, List Founder and Forgetful Elder Stateskitty. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:14:11 -0500 From: Rebecca Hinson <rebeccahinson@c.......> Subject: Re: the 1st War Well.... I don't know anything about organizing a get together like this, but if I could, I totally would. I'd love to see as many of us as possible get together. It'd be even cooler if we could get some of the people affiliated with the show to come too, but I'm just daydreaming here. LOL :) ~Cousin Becky Jean Prior wrote: > Anyway... it's 2011. I started this in December 1992. Next year will > be our TWENTIETH YEAR. We should totally plan for some kind of huge fan > gathering somewhere with t-shirts and buttons and invite the cast > members to join us if they want. Cos dang, that is a big deal, IMHO. > Who wants to take the lead on organizing this thing ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:25:43 -0500 From: Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......> Subject: Re: The 1st war You asked for specific questions, McLisa; so here are a few. 1. You said: > Nobody was warned at the outset. I don't know who chose > the initial targets, but I had to ask to be one. They hadn't planned to > attack me. Undoubtedly clear when you wrote it but.... Are you saying that you *were* one of the initial targets? Or do you mean that, *after* the first few "torments" were posted, you e-mailed someone and said eagerly, "Me too! Me too!"? 2. Sandye Chisholm? 3. The story of how the wars started has passed into legend. With no apparent extant record of those early posts (sigh), one is reliant on a combination of memory and old websites. Everyone agrees that Sharon Scott was rash enough to tell everyone she was scared of frogs. Then apparently two people sent her chocolate frogs in the mail. (Where they got them is a fascinating question: I don't think I've ever even seen chocolate frogs.) Most accounts simply say "two Cousins", though obviously at that point they were LaCroix fans, not Cousins per se. The Cousins got their name as a result of this incident. You once called them "LaCroixettes", which I gather was an early name or a proposed name, or something of that sort. Did they act together, or attack separately? I've seen it said that they *independently* sent the frogs; but that does seem very odd. I mean, I can see two people independently deciding to play a practical joke; and obviously, in the circumstances, the joke would involve frogs. But I can think, just off the top of my head, of several frog-related things they could have sent. Both sent *chocolate frogs*. (There's definitely a question in there, but probably not one *you* can answer.) Sharon then wrote back, calling them "cousins"; and they retorted that if they were Cousins, then LaCroix was their Uncle. (Oh, those lost posts.) She then apparently wrote a story. Do you, or does anyone happen to have a copy of it? Because it was her appeal to Nick that inspired Laurie...and history was born; but the story does not appear to have been archived. It may, of course, have been very short. 4. Prior to the war, I gather there had been some discussion on list about people preferring one character over another. Affiliations in the egg, so to speak. I assume the first attackees were picked on the basis of things they had posted. I assume Knighties/Nicholaaahs (both names were used in War One) were picked because either (a) Sharon was one, and/or (b) they were the largest group of targets? At any rate, if I recall War One correctly, all the first targets were affiliated with Nick. Do you recall if the first attackees were particularly noisy on list? It was, after all, a busy list: one wonders why *they* were picked. 5. The Wicked Warren. Yes, I remember that *startling* development from when I read War One. Clearly there were Watership Down fans among you! Do you recall anything about the choice of name, and all the rabbit pseudonyms people used towards the end of the war? Why Watership Down? The Wicked Warren was a War One thing only. Was this a mutual decision, and why? 6. From this past war (and Susan's War Tutorial), I know how much goes on behind the scenes. In the early stages of War One, obviously any off-list stuff would have been between the three Cousins who started it, Laurie, Margaret, and John. However, as things developed, the embryonic Knighties must have organized themselves to some degree, and--to a lesser extent--the other factions. Do you recall how much of this mailing loop stuff went on during the war? I also get the impression that it continued *after* the war, and is the basis for the obvious emergence of clearly defined factions by War Two. Would this be accurate? Greer gwatson2@r....... http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/ ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 24 Mar 2011 to 25 Mar 2011 (#2011-41) **************************************************************
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