FORKNI-L
Digest - 4 Mar 2010 to 5 Mar 2010 (#2010-46)
Fri, 5 Mar 2010
There are 5 messages totalling 180 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Avenging Angel
2. Episode Discussion: Fallen Idol (3)
3. FORKNI-L Digest - 15 Feb 2010 to 18 Feb 2010 (#2010-35)
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:37:03 -0700
From: Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: Avenging Angel
Spoiler:
From: "Ensio Ferum"
In "Avenging Angel though it is only at the very end that we learn for
certain that what we've slowly been suspecting is in fact true: the
apparent victim/witness is actually the killer and her abusive father has
been wrongly accused.
I've always found this to be extremely sad, as well as a very instructive
warning to those who would take the law into their own hands.
The girl is as guilty of killing her father as she is of having killed her
mother. Plus, she's destroyed the life and career of the woman running the
shelter - she will certainly be going to jail for some amount of time.
And, she's indirectly responsible for the additional death at the shelter
(the woman who went to the store and whose husband followed and attacked
her), and the displacement of a dozen or more people from the shelter, the
strain on other locations where these people have had to be moved, any
future battered women who won't have the lady here going to bat for her.
Oh, this girl is in SOOOO much trouble and so responsible for so much
misery. And Nick thinks HE's got a lot to atone for.
It would have been interesting to get a reaction shot of the shelter
operator when she finds out that the husband is actually innocent.
In addition, the editing and presentation gives you some time to think about
what's going on.
Walt Doherty
wdoherty5@c.......
Phoenix, AZ
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:52:36 -0700
From: Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Fallen Idol
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
> 4) For what we've seen, a vampire gets "frozen" in their physical
> condition at the time of crossing-over. If they cross as a child, they
> are eternally a child. If they cross at 25..they are forever 25. There
> doesn't appear to be anything that causes retroactive "healing" to some
> point before crossing over.
Possible Spoiler
In "Blind Faith", at the end, Jody is standing with her dog, Perry,
apparently looking up at the sky.
Is her blindness cured? I think this is the assumption meant by the scene.
In "Father's Day", Don Constantine is a lot haler and heartier in the
closing scene that he was before, although not in the least any younger.
I would say that when one is brought across that certain physical anomalies
are corrected. It would appear that if you were near-sighted before, you
won't be afterwards. If you had been a bit frail, your body will become a
bit more healthy. On the other hand, external things like scars are not
fixed; those you carry with you.
It's probably reasonable to assume that if the kid's problem was a minor,
interior one, the the beneficial and partial effects of vampire blood might
provide a temporary help. If he were brought across, he would be a
permanently, typical, post pubescent teenager, forever!
Walt Doherty
wdoherty5@c.......
Phoenix, AZ
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:08:16 -0700
From: Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Fallen Idol
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
>
> 4) ahh the magic of vampire blood in the hands of the writers. All the
> effects of various forms of kryptonite with none of the mess. I could get
> behind a dose being an ability to "freeze aging" at the point where the
> injections start...but what jar of cheez-whiz describes the effect on
> Joey???
Natalie takes some awful chances. She deserves a reprimand in her personnel
folder for injecting Joey with Nick's blood. She had NO idea about what it
will or or what the effect would be. This is close to malpractice. She
could have her license revoked. I think she's lucky that none of this is
public (nor ever will be) public knowledge. I like Natalie, but I think she
ought to be smacked up the side of the head for this bonehead medical
procedure. Sheesh!
Walt Doherty
wdoherty5@c.......
Phoenix, AZ
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:53:37 -0600
From: Roxana Elizondo <roxeliz@h.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Fallen Idol
Walt wrote:
> This is close to malpractice. She could have her license revoked. I think she's
> lucky that none of this is public (nor ever will be) public knowledge. I
> like Natalie, but I think she ought to be smacked up the side of the head
> for this bonehead medical procedure. Sheesh!
If I were to rank FK episodes in order from favorite to least, you've articulate
exactly why 'Fallen Idol' would fall at the bottom of the list for me. This is
the Natalie turns into a bonehead episode and I don't like it one bit that it
was done to her.
Even the cuteness and absurdity of Nick and Natalie taking in a wrestling match
(and sitting in the front row!) in the tag is barely enough to wash the bad
taste this episode leaves in my mouth.
--Roxy
http://abby82.livejournal.com/
http://theramblingfanatic.net/
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:19:38 -0500
From: Portia Eins <portiaeins@g.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 15 Feb 2010 to 18 Feb 2010 (#2010-35)
Hey, I know this is late, but if you didn't get an answer to this, I believe
they were the same person; Kyer was the one who originally introduced me to
this list, and to the concept of lists all together, when I was trolling
Moe's old archive and I wrote Kyer with a question/comment on one of her
funny stories.
Portia
>
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:54:20 -0500
> From: Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
> Subject: Author pages in the FK Wiki
>
> 1. Are "Kyer" and "Kyer en Ysh" the same person, or two different people?
> In other words, do we do one page, with a redirect from the alternative
> form of the name? Or should it be two separate pages?
>
>
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