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Digest - 8 Sep 2009 to 9 Sep 2009 (#2009-151)
Wed, 9 Sep 2009
There are 7 messages totalling 260 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Chiller Marathon & Alternatives
2. Episode Discussion: My Boyfriend Is A Vampire (4)
3. Episode Discussion Scheduling: Hearts Of Darkness
4. Ben Bass on ABC
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 01:47:04 -0700
From: Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Chiller Marathon & Alternatives
The marathon was very nice. I even enjoyed the commercials;
that made it seem even more like a real broadcast tv show.
A question: did Chiller use remastered tapes or something?
In some of the episodes, the color and clarity were superb.
Or, do I just have a better tv than I had 15 years ago. :-)
The DVDs are still available. Some of the nice things about
the DVDs are that you can stop the action when a little one
suddenly starts screaming. If you miss some of the dialog,
you can back it up and replay it, or you can turn the subtitles
on.
Anyway, if you don't have the DVDs nor do you have access
to Chiller, many of the episodes are available on Hulu. You
have to put up with a few commercials, but they are shorter
than on the cable broadcast.
Hulu has most of seasons 1 and 2. I presume they
are working on getting season 3.
It would seem the best way to see more FK on Chiller is to
let it know that -- although they haven''t made contact very
easy. :-(
Walt Doherty
wdoherty5@c.......
Phoenix, AZ
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 07:55:15 -0400
From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion: My Boyfriend Is A Vampire
1) I like how Natalie nearly spit up her coffee in the opening scene when
Jerry says that vampires don't really exist.
2) This episode has such a wonderfully crafted opening. Neither Natalie nor
Tracy are saying anything...you are reading their thoughts about the
discusssion that Jerry has purely through their facial expressions...and you
are very quickly orientated as to how each of them sees herself in the
conversation...and how disquieting she finds it.
3) Tracy is such a smooth liar. She was ready for Jerry asking her what she
thought about Maggie Dwyer in the opening scene...ready for Nick when he
asked her about vampires.
Of course, Nick is lying just as smoothly back to her...the scene where Vachon
and Tracy are talking and she tells him Nick is such a skeptic about vampires
and Vachon deadpans "know him that well do you?" is proof of that.
4) I like the actor who plays Jerry. he reminds me a little appearance of
Rutgar Haur...one of my favorite actors...in his role in The Osterman Weekend.
5) I suppose some might find it a trifle "cute", but I enjoy the cat-and-mouse
dialog of some of the characters as they dance around the questions of vampires
and who knows what about whom.
6) "A little less of a man." Ticking off Tracy is something Vachon does at
his own peril.
7) I think that adding Tracy to the mix encouraged the writers to lighten Nick
up just a shade. He'd pulled Schanke's chain and grinned at it from time to
time, but in this season, we actually getting him laughing with his partner.
Nice to see the King of Angst is sometimes so human.
8) Amusing to watch the conflict between Jerry's concepts of what police work
is like and Tracy's actually fairly realistic statement of the real unHollywood
life of a metropolitan police detective. Far fewer gunfights and high-speed
pursuits...far more trying to figure out what the heck went on and who did what
to whom.
9) Clearly Vachon enjoys the concept of "babe cop"
10) Do I remember correctly that Vachon is doing The Maltese Falcon when he
acts as Tracy's "snitch" on the street corner.
11) is this episode's scene in The Raven, the only time Nick, Vachon and
LaCroix are together on screen? I want to say that it is.
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 07:56:26 -0400
From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion Scheduling: Hearts Of Darkness
Next Episode up is Hearts of Darkness
Tuesday September 22nd, 2009 is the date.
Tim
Coordinator Of The 2009 Forever Knight Virtual Syndication.
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:39:26 GMT
From: Jean <jmtof@j.......>
Subject: Ben Bass on ABC
FYI - Ben is in the new fall series "Copper" that will be shown in Canada
and in the U.S. on ABC. The series is currently filming in Toronto.
Jean
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:51:18 -0400
From: Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: My Boyfriend Is A Vampire
>4) I like the actor who plays Jerry. he reminds me a little appearance of
>Rutgar Haur...one of my favorite actors...in his role in The Osterman Weekend.
That's Geordie Johnson, who played Dracula in Dracula: The Series, the
modern-day comedy in which Ger played Klaus van Helsing, once described as
"Klaus, the unstable vampire." Ger told a con that when he read the script,
which he directed, his first thought was to cast Geordie Johnson as the younger
male lead. Then, he said, "out friends reminded me that we're not 25 anymore."
He gave a theatrical grimace. So he offered him Jerry instead.
McLisa
mclisa@m.......
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:11:04 -0400
From: "S. Babbitt" <sbabbitt@b.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: My Boyfriend Is A Vampire
Tim, you do such thoughtful episode analyses! I always enjoy reading
them, even when I don't have anything particularly insightful to add.
>2) This episode has such a wonderfully crafted opening. Neither
>Natalie nor Tracy are saying anything...you are reading their
>thoughts about the discusssion that Jerry has purely through their
>facial expressions...
I have a copy of the script for this ep, and would you believe, the
only direction it gives at that point is "Close on Natalie's
reaction." Unless the episode's director had a lot more instruction
to give, which I kind of doubt, that genius bit of "silent story"
there is all Catherine. It's no mistake that she's gotten so many
Gemini nods. (It helps, too, that she's lived in this character for
two whole seasons by this point and probably knows what Natalie will
do before she even reads the next line of script.)
>4) I like the actor who plays Jerry. he reminds me a little
>appearance of Rutgar Haur...one of my favorite actors...in his role
>in The Osterman Weekend.
Ever seen Hauer--along with a number of FK's secondary-role
actors--in "Bone Daddy"? I highly recommend it, if for no other
reason than to see Blu Mankuma do a totally different (read: wussier)
character than I've ever seen him do anywhere else.
>9) Clearly Vachon enjoys the concept of "babe cop"
Vachon takes enormous pleasure in laughing at foibles, be they mortal
or immortal. Anything that anyone else takes too seriously, he's
going to have fun mocking. Not only does he know quite well that
Tracy's dressed waaaaaay out of line for her professional role, but
you know he's delighting in how miserably uncomfortable she is thusly
tarted up.
>10) Do I remember correctly that Vachon is doing The Maltese Falcon
>when he acts as Tracy's "snitch" on the street corner.
Indeed he is. I've often wondered to myself whether his reference
point is the book or the movie; he strikes me more as a reader than a
TV watcher, because books are easy to come by, free or dead cheap if
you're willing to go to libraries or buy used, and highly portable in
the event of a need for a sudden move. But of course, I'm sure he's
whammied his way into plenty of movie theaters over the years without
paying a dime, either. :D
What I love most about that particular scene is that he remembers,
even in the heat of anger, that he's being filmed and can't break his
cover. He gets ragged on so much, but he didn't survive 500 years of
being chased by the Inca by being careless.
This ep has its weak spots, but it's a Vaq's dream. And isn't this
the one that ends with the fabled greeting card which prompted one of
the most hilarious fic challenges ever on these lists? (The Lurkers
still rock my world for that one.)
--
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Stephanie Babbitt (sbabbitt@b.......), Atlanta, GA
Vaquera (Because I Can), MadNatter, N&NPacker
Nobody Dies. Nobody Ever Died.
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:06:55 -0700
From: Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: My Boyfriend Is A Vampire
> 2) This episode has such a wonderfully crafted opening. Neither Natalie
> nor Tracy are saying anything...you are reading their thoughts about the
> discusssion that Jerry has purely through their facial expressions...and you
> are very quickly orientated as to how each of them sees herself in the
> conver=
The teaser that opens the show is almost too good.
I actually remember, what, 15 - 16 years ago now <sigh!>,
the very first time I saw it. I very nearly turned it off.
I mean who needs another Jenny Jones knock off, right?
I thought it was real and that the local station was broadcasting
something other than FK for some reason.
The topic does seem to be a natural for Springer or Maury or
whoever does these shows today.
Captain Reese mentions Jones's show at one point (one of FK's
few topical references. Jenny Jones was a talk show host with a
show on from '91 -- '03. It was a Jerry Springer like noise fest
as I recall. The Wikipedia has a short araticle on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jenny_Jones_Show.
Jones has an active website.
Walt Doherty
wdoherty5@c.......
Phoenix, AZ
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