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Digest - 9 Aug 2009 to 13 Aug 2009 (#2009-132)

Thu, 13 Aug 2009

There are 9 messages totalling 388 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Geocities and FK (5)
  2. Episode Discussion: Blind Faith (4)

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Date:    Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:41:08 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Geocities and FK

A few days ago NAT asked:

>Due to the coming demise of Geocities' personal web pages, I was
>wondering if anyone who has a Geocities site has moved yet or has
>plans to do so in the near future. It would be a real shame to lose
>so many FK web sites, even if they haven't been updated in a while.
>None of us wants to lose the history of our fandom!

Which I second!

I'm currently looking around for a place for my own website (which is one of
those that will be affected).  Fortunately, I have always had the whole
thing saved and backed up, which gives me a bit of leeway in terms of time.

I'm willing to make a stab at downloading and saving other sites, page by
page--tedious and time-consuming though that undoubtedly is.  I can't host
them; but at least I can save the files and back them up on a flashdrive so
that someone somewhere sometime can be handed a package to put up on their
server.  However, I don't want to do this for a site whose owner is already
making arrangements.

Of the other FK Geocities sites, who has moved already?  Is planning to
move?

And how many of them are out there?

Greer
gwatson2@r.......
http://ca.geocities.com/gwatson2@rogers.com/index.html


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Date:    Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:27:23 -0400
From:    Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......>
Subject: Re: Geocities and FK

I'm more than willing to add any "NICK & NAT stories to my site, giving each
author their own page. I prefer to stick to the N&N as that's what my site
is. I have plenty of room on my site to host a good bit. Since I need this
anyway, I'm more than willing to pay for more space if needed, but I doubt I
would run out of room to post the fan fiction.

If Patty Costantino is still part of this group, please contact me off group
at:

deborah@d.......

Thanks,
Deborah A. Hymon


on 8/12/09 5:41 PM, Greer Watson at gwatson2@r....... wrote:

> A few days ago NAT asked:
>
>> Due to the coming demise of Geocities' personal web pages, I was
>> wondering if anyone who has a Geocities site has moved yet or has
>> plans to do so in the near future.

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Date:    Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:24:06 -0700
From:    debbi henson <debbub@h.......>
Subject: Re: Geocities and FK

Coming out of lurkdom...

If anyone is interested in saving my geocities page, then by all means,
please do. I do not have the webpage knowledge to save it, or to host it.
The page can be located here: http://www.geocities.com/nicholasdebarbrant/

I would be interested to know who saves it. I am still rebuilding my FK
links from a earlier computer crash.

Thanks!

Yours in the Knight,
Deb~ KnightCrusader
NN Packer/ Caddy Whack/ FK War Survivor

"It's not true! He's not ugly, he's not some kind of monster! I won't let
him be ugly...I won't let him be!"


"I sang only for you...and that night I gave you my ... Soul." Erik ~ Composer,
Architect, Magician, Genius ~ Phantom




> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:41:08 -0400
> From: gwatson2@r.......
> Subject: Geocities and FK
> To: FORKNI-L@l.......
>
> A few days ago NAT asked:
>
>>Due to the coming demise of Geocities' personal web pages, I was
>>wondering if anyone who has a Geocities site has moved yet or has
>>plans to do so in the near future. It would be a real shame to lose
>>so many FK web sites, even if they haven't been updated in a while.
>>None of us wants to lose the history of our fandom!
>
> Which I second!
>
> I'm currently looking around for a place for my own website (which is one of
> those that will be affected).  Fortunately, I have always had the whole
> thing saved and backed up, which gives me a bit of leeway in terms of time.
>
> I'm willing to make a stab at downloading and saving other sites, page by
> page--tedious and time-consuming though that undoubtedly is.  I can't host
> them; but at least I can save the files and back them up on a flashdrive so
> that someone somewhere sometime can be handed a package to put up on their
> server.  However, I don't want to do this for a site whose owner is already
> making arrangements.
>
> Of the other FK Geocities sites, who has moved already?  Is planning to
> move?
>
> And how many of them are out there?
>
> Greer
> gwatson2@r.......
> http://ca.geocities.com/gwatson2@rogers.com/index.html
>

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Date:    Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:38:32 -0700
From:    phylis sullivan <phylis_s_2000_2001@y.......>
Subject: Re: Geocities and FK

I have one but I'm not sure what I'm going to do as of yet.  Of course
it has more than just FK.  Phylis
http://www.freewebs.com/phylisrsullivan/ phylis_s_2000_2001@y.......            _=
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From: Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:41:08 PM
Subject: Geocities and FK
A few days ago NAT asked:
>Due to the coming demise of Geocities' personal web pages, I was
>wondering if any one who has a Geocities site has moved yet or has
>plans to do so in the near future. It would be a real shame to lose
>so many FK web sites, even if they haven't been updated in a while.
>None of us wants to lose the history of our fandom!

Which I second!

I'm currently looking around for a place for my own website (which is one of
those that will be affected).  Fortunately, I have always had the whole
thing saved and backed up, which gives me a bit of leeway in terms of time.

I'm willing to make a stab at downloading and saving other sites, page by
page--tedious and time-consuming though that undoubtedly is.  I can't host
them; but at least I can save the files and back them up on a flashdrive so
that someone somewhere sometime can be handed a package to put up on their
server.  However, I don't want to do this for a site whose owner is already
making arrangements.

Of the other FK Geocities sites, who has moved already?  Is planning to
move?

And how many of them are out there?

Greer
gwatson2@r.......
http://ca.geocities.com/gwatson2@rogers.com/index.html
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Date:    Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:55:10 EDT
From:    Nickis Mom <Nickismom1228@a.......>
Subject: Re: Geocities and FK

_http://www.geocities.com/gersknightlady/Home.html_
(http://www.geocities.com/gersknightlady/Home.html)

This is the location of my page, your welcome to save my stories just send
me the link. :)

Jeannie


In a message dated 8/12/2009 6:27:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
debh@e....... writes:

I'm more  than willing to add any "NICK & NAT stories to my site, giving each
author their own page. I prefer to stick to the N&N as that's what  my site
is. I have plenty of room on my site to host a good bit. Since I  need this
anyway, I'm more than willing to pay for more space if needed,  but I doubt
I would run out of room to post the fan fiction.

If  Patty Costantino is still part of this group, please contact me off
group at:

deborah@d.......

Thanks,
Deborah A.  Hymon


on 8/12/09 5:41 PM, Greer Watson at gwatson2@r.......  wrote:

> A few days ago NAT asked:
>
>> Due to the  coming demise of Geocities' personal web pages, I was
>> wondering if  anyone who has a Geocities site has moved yet or has
>> plans to do  so in the near future.

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Date:    Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:59:05 -0400
From:    "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion: Blind Faith

1) I am amused at Nick razing Tracy for her dog's name (Sparky).  Asks her if
she had a cat named Fluffy.
I wonder what Nick would think of my family's long-time cat companion T.C.
(The Cat).

2) The actor playing Screed does such a wonderful job.  The character is so
relaxed and "flows" so well.  It takes serious talent to be filmed in a scene
where you are draining blood from hanged rats and a viewer doesn't even
question the "reality" of what they are seeing.

3) I think Nick the Brick might yet have some hope.  I thought he very
gracefully side-stepped Jody's offer to come in for coffee.  He desperately
needed to get home with the sun coming up, but he didn't clumsily turn her
down...he actually managed not to trample on her feelings.  Now if he could
only be as delicate with Natalie more...

4) "I've got friends I haven't seen in hundreds...in years and sometimes you
can just pickup where you left off"
What was that line from that old country in western song "no more of this
marriage nonsense for me....every few years I'm just gonna find a woman I hate
and buy her a house!"  So...every few hundred years, Nick and Janette drift
back together again...and then drift apart.

5)  I think you can make the argument that Nick's actions around Perry are
inexcusable.  He'd already seen the havoc caused by a vampiric dog in the
past....did he really think that Perry was going to "get better"?  Soon or
later, he would have to deal with the situation ...better to do that before
Jody or someone else got killed.

6) Of all the FK vampires, Jody probably likes flying the most.

Tim


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Date:    Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:59:02 +0200
From:    CousinLucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Blind Faith

Am 13.08.2009 um 16:59 schrieb Phillips, Tim:

> 1) I am amused at Nick razing Tracy for her dog's name (Sparky).
> Asks her if she had a cat named Fluffy.

Well, I wonder what his pets were called way back when ... And those
names really aren't imaginative so I'll grant Nick that one.


>  He desperately needed to get home with the sun coming up, but he
> didn't clumsily
>  turn her down...he actually managed not to trample on her
> feelings.  Now if he could only be as delicate with
>  Natalie more...

Often we become less sensitive with people whom we (think to) know
well. Nick has just met Jodie and I think he feels a special
"kinship" with her - they are both "handicapped" in a way and
"trapped in darkness".

>
> 5)  I think you can make the argument that Nick's actions around
> Perry are inexcusable.  He'd already seen the havoc caused by a
> vampiric dog in the past....did he really think that Perry was
> going to "get better"?  Soon or
> later, he would have to deal with the situation ...better to do
> that before Jody or someone else got killed.

Yes, but he recognizes the special relationship Jodie has to Perry.
She literally depended on him as her guide. And I believe that Nick
was quite heartbroken when he had to destroy Raleigh. Maybe that's
why he acts so hesitantly.

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Date:    Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:48:43 -0400
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Blind Faith

>1) I am amused at Nick razing Tracy for her dog's name (Sparky).  Asks her if
>she had a cat named Fluffy.
>I wonder what Nick would think of my family's long-time cat companion T.C.
>(The Cat).

That script was actually written in the first season.  Ger mentioned it at one
of his personal appearances after the second, as something they'd bought and
would have to use eventually.  He didn't seem too fond of it. :). Like several
of the other early episodes in the third season, Tracy's lines were written
for Schanke.  This is one place where it really shows.
>
>2) The actor playing Screed does such a wonderful job.  The character is so
>relaxed and "flows" so well.  It takes serious talent to be filmed in a
>scene where you are draining blood from hanged rats and a viewer doesn't even
>question the "reality" of what they are seeing.

Greg Kramer.  He's a major name in Toronto theater, originally from London
(England, not the one in Ontario).  He's also a writer.  Somewhere I've heard,
probably from Libratsie who runs his own line fan site, that when the auditions
were being held for the part of Screed, one of the other actors  saw Greg in
the waiting room and said "Kramer's here. We can all go home."  Shows how much
his peers respect his talent.

>5)  I think you can make the argument that Nick's actions around Perry are
>inexcusable.  He'd already seen the havoc caused by a vampiric dog in the
>past....did he really think that Perry was going to "get better"?  Soon or
>later, he would have to deal with the situation ...better to do that before
>Jody or someone else got killed.

When Nigel mentioned a vampire dog  as being about to appear in the third.  I
told him afterwards, "you just restored Ger's crediblity.  We didn't believe
him when he said there was a vampire dog in a script they hadn't used yet." :)

McLisa
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:59:15 -0700
From:    libratsie@s.......
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Blind Faith

--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......> wrote:



**Greg Kramer.  He's a major name in Toronto theater, originally from London
(England, not the one in Ontario). **

Actually, he's more or less in Montreal theater now although he's just wrapping
up a role in ... I think it is The St. Lawrence Shakespeare Festival.  I'll
try to look up the actual update he recently gave me and post it here tonight
(if I don't forget again).

He's about to direct "Inherit the Wind" in Montreal.


** Somewhere I've heard, probably from Libratsie who runs his own line fan
site, that when the auditions were being held for the part of Screed, one of
the other actors  saw Greg in the waiting room and said "Kramer's here. We can
all go home."  Shows how much his peers respect his talent.**

That's what he told me a while back.  He also got one role or another by
throwing himself against the wall during auditions.  I "borrowed" that tactic
and can't remember whether or not I got the role, but do clearly remember the
bruise!<g>

Although I thought 'Blind Faith' is on the silly side, I do enjoy the episode.

By the way, Bonnie P. does his fan site (no, alas I don't know the URL as
the bookmark has disappeared off my computer - drat). I run several yahoogroup
lists related to him but they've been quiet as of late.

--Libs

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