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Digest - 2 Jul 2009 to 3 Jul 2009 (#2009-115)
Fri, 3 Jul 2009
There are 6 messages totalling 201 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Urs (3)
2. Episode Discussion: Black Buddha 2 (3)
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:34:46 -0400
From: Ramona Jackson <lexyladyjax@g.......>
Subject: Re: Urs
Urs: This name is for me an enigma. Urs is a German variant for Latin name
> Ursus (meaning bear) so why she has a male name.
>
> I had always assumed that Urs was a nickname for Ursula. I do believe that
Ursula means She-Bear, does it not? Nicknames were not unknown on Forever
Knight: Schank for Schanke, Nick for Nicholas, Nat for Natalie...what do the
rest of y'all think? I've always thought of her as a little blond she-bear,
but that's just me.
PeridotEyes
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:41:45 -0700
From: Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......>
Subject: Re: Urs
Yes, I've considered it a nickname for Ursula or possible Ursule if her human
life was truly from French New Orleans. (And wouldn't that just tie in with the
French theme? :)
Ursula in English is a valid feminine name.
http://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-ursula-4565.htm
Kristen Fife
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--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Ramona Jackson <lexyladyjax@g.......> wrote:
> From: Ramona Jackson <lexyladyjax@g.......>
> Subject: Re: Urs
> To: FORKNI-L@l.......
> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:34 PM
> Urs: This name is for me an enigma.
> Urs is a German variant for Latin name
> > Ursus (meaning bear) so why she has a male name.
> >
> > I had always assumed that Urs was a nickname for
> Ursula. I do believe that
> Ursula means She-Bear, does it not? Nicknames were
> not unknown on Forever
> Knight: Schank for Schanke, Nick for Nicholas, Nat for
> Natalie...what do the
> rest of y'all think? I've always thought of her as a
> little blond she-bear,
> but that's just me.
>
> PeridotEyes
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:39:54 -0700
From: Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: Urs
In Latin, the root for "bear" is URS, thus
ursus - bear in general, male bear in particular
ursa - female bear
cf. Ursa Major, the Big Bear constellation.
There is also Ersa, the Greek goddess of "dew". (Wikipedia)
And there is always the possibility that the name is related to
Erda, Wagner's Earth goddess in his Ring Cycle.
There are also several Scandinavian variants, ers, erse, ors, etc.
which relate to earth, plowing, and harvest. (OED)
I've always assumed that Urs was short for Ursa (or possibly Ursula)
But a phonetic derivation such as Earth > Urth > Urs relating
to "Earth Mother" might be valid. She is an earth-mother type.
Doesn't LaCroix describe her as an earth goddess?
I've also always been struck by how much she looks like Marilyn Monroe.
Walt Doherty
wdoherty5@c.......
Phoenix, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ramona Jackson" <lexyladyjax@g.......>
>>
>> I had always assumed that Urs was a nickname for Ursula. I do believe
>> that
> Ursula means She-Bear, does it not? Nicknames were not unknown on Forever
> Knight: . . . I've always thought of her as a little blond she-bear,
> but that's just me.
>
> PeridotEyes
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:08:45 -0400
From: Naia Zifu <naia_zifu@b.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Black Buddha 2
Careful calling LC unattractive-- he has fangirls who will pounce you for
that kind of thing! ^^;;; I'm pretty sure the reason is just that he's so
much older and more powerful than the others who tried. If sex appeal were
the main deciding factor, I think that would make women more likely to
listen to the good-looking vampires rather than less!
Nick always seems to be harsh on Vachon, for some reason. I'm not sure why,
since Vachon seems to have his heart in the right place most of the time,
and isn't nearly as irresponsible as his reputation claims. Then again,
maybe he needs someone riding his back to behave in a reasonably good and
responsible way? Now I'm imagining the Inca pulling Mich aside and saying,
"Look, man, after I'm gone, I want you to keep on his back, all right?
'Cause if you don't he'll never do anything but lie around and play that
stupid guitar!"
Urs is probably short for Ursula, which is a feminine name that means
"little bear". But since that's never stated in any official source, it's
just what we're left to suppose. I do think it would be an interesting
contradiction for someone like her, who oozes feminine sex appeal, to have a
masculine name, though.
> I remembered that LaCroix hypnotized them to forget things, but perhaps
> that is because he is so powerful (or not so atractive).
>
> I have always little bit wondered Nick's hard words to Vachon in the
> church. He could just have discussed things in a more polite way, for me it
> looked too harsh and not very typical behavior for Nick.
>
> Urs: This name is for me an enigma. Urs is a German variant for Latin name
> Ursus (meaning bear), so why she has a male name.
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:31:00 -0700
From: cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Black Buddha 2
I think Nick is hard on Vachon because Vachon is so comfortable in his own skin.
Nick always seems to have a problem with vampires who are just happy/content
being who or what they are. I think this is one of the underlying issues he
has with Screed as well. The fact that Screed is carouche, just makes a good
excuse to look down on him.
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From: Naia Zifu naia_zifu@b.......
Nick always seems to be harsh on Vachon, for some reason. I'm not sure why,
since Vachon seems to have his heart in the right place most of the time,
and isn't nearly as irresponsible as his reputation claims.
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:56:45 +0000
From: P J <blue_twingo772@y.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion: Black Buddha 2
From: Ensio Ferum <eferum@HOTMAIL.COM>:
> Hm, after writing this I remembered that LaCroix hypnotized them to forget
things, but perhaps that is because he is so powerful (or not so atractive).<
Must be the "I'm too old and powerful"-thing that enables him to hypnotize
resistors, because Lacroix definitely IS attractive!
> Urs: This name is for me an enigma. Urs is a German variant for Latin
name = Ursus (meaning bear), so why she has a male name.>
Actually Ursula is a female name that is quite popular in Germany. I happen to
know at least 4 people who go by this name.
Petra.
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