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Digest - 11 Aug 2008 to 12 Aug 2008 (#2008-190)

Tue, 12 Aug 2008

There are 3 messages totalling 130 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

   1. Ben Bass B'day (2)
   2. Vampire Blood Injected in Human Characters

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:34:18 GMT
From:    Jean <jmtof@j.......>
Subject: Ben Bass B'day

Ben will be ... I can't believe I'm typing this ... 40 on Thursday the 14th.  
I told him that things definitely become better with age ...<g>
Jean

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:06:37 -0700
From:    "Amy R." <akr@l.......>
Subject: Re: Vampire Blood Injected in Human Characters

In the 8/11/2008 digest, P J <blue_twingo772@y.......> wrote:
> >>I don't find it logical that vampire blood should have the 
> ability to restore youth.<<

       I don't find it logical, either.  :-)  But it's what I've
always seen in "If Looks Could Kill."   FK isn't famous for its
logic, so it had never occurred to me to question it before.  :-)

> >>Where would this lead when vampires make love and drink each 
> other's blood on a regular basis?  How would the metabolism know 
> when to stop?<<

       I think canon does not insist that vampire bodies and human
bodies would be affected in the same way.  In FK, vampire and human
characters have different reactions to sunlight, garlic, food, and
many other things.  Nick can live on nothing but blood; Natalie
cannot.  I believe canon would support a construction in which FK
human and vampire characters have different reactions to vampire
blood (among other things, humans became emotionally and mentally
unstable when injected with vampire blood, as seen in ILCK and FI,
while vampires do not).  After all, an FK vampire is already frozen
in time, immortal -- dead, Nick would say.  At any rate, biologically
different from a living, growing, aging human.

       Separately, my theory was that Sofia's treatment includes some
unknown element in addition to her blood to achieve this effect, as a
contrast to what happened in "Fallen Idol."  Just an unprovable
theory, of course.

       ILCK is a kind of inversion of the whole "Blood Countess" myth,
isn't it?  I don't know whether it was wholly fiction or had some
element of historical truth, that story of the mad noblewoman who
bathed in the blood of girls to maintain her youth, but I like to see
ILCK as attempting to reclaim and reorient that story, with the
vampiress here giving her blood to old women to restore their youth
out of her immortality, instead of, as in the original, stealing the
blood of girls to maintain her own immortal youth.

> >>I think she doesn't need to shepherd them around. They depend on 
> her if they want to keep their youth. So they probably stayed close 
> on their own account.<<

       If she began treating them when they were still young, it would
have taken many years before they noticed that they were not growing
old, wouldn't it?  So there must be quite a story in why they
believed her and kept taking these treatments from her all that time,
with no evident results?

       To me, her patients hardly seem to know her.  Agnes,
especially, in the jail scene, seems to know only Dr. Jurgen's name
and where she works.  Would they still be so distant after thirty or
forty years?

       Also, they all keep changing their pronunciation of her surname
(sometimes the "J" is English-style, and sometimes it is
German-style).  I know that's just the actors and director not being
consistent, and reveals the order in which the scenes were filmed
more than anything else, but I have usually interpreted it inside the
story as evidence that they are not well acquainted with her.  On the
other hand, it could just mean she has changed her name recently, and
they have not yet learned the new name correctly.

       It's very intriguing, the construction that Bernice, Norma and
Agnes have been with Sofia since they were young!  There's nothing in
canon to disprove it.

       But I find I'm still attached to the idea that Sofia developed
her treatment more recently, and that her goal was to redress the
situation of women past the point of society's easy acceptance.  The
character is wrong, of course; the thing to change is society, not
individual faces.  She would save more heartbreak in the long run by
fighting the social stigma than by catering to it.  But she's doling
out a kind of salvation, as she sees it.

Amy R.
akr@l.......
FK Site: http://users.LMI.net/akr/fk/
FK Blog: http://brightknightie.livejournal.com/

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Date:    Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:02:48 -0700
From:    NytDreams <igatatsuwa@g.......>
Subject: Re: Ben Bass B'day

Not far behind him here....39 in less than 2 months.  *sigh*  I did get to
catch him a bit on Flashpoint (was that it?...not sure about the name now).
He's still looking good and it was good to see him again.

Tab

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Jean <jmtof@j.......> wrote:

> Ben will be ... I can't believe I'm typing this ... 40 on Thursday the 14th.  
> I told him that things definitely become better with age ...<g>
> Jean
>

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