There are 7 messages totalling 511 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Is There A... 2. PRAYER: Laurie uses her face as landing gear (5) 3. Ten Years! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 01:55:04 EDT From: Nickismom1228@a....... Subject: Re: Is There A... FK and Harry, eh? Sounds great! Can't wait to read it! I think I have it book marked at work I'll try to find it tomorrow. It's only one chapter and not continued so far. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:04:57 -0700 From: Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......> Subject: PRAYER: Laurie uses her face as landing gear I had a big scare yesterday just before noon today. I had just taken a sip of coffee, and I started laughing over something on in an email. I started to choke, so I bent over to spit the coffee into the wastebasket (it had a plastic bag in it). Next I must have tried to get up to get to the bathroom, but I'm not sure, because the next thing I knew, I was coming to (regaining concsiousness) on the floor. For a few moments I had no idea where I was or what had happened, I started to cry, then called out for my Mom. Then I remembered that she had just left for a follow up with her oral surgeon. I started to remember what had happened prior to waking up. The right side of my forehead, my right temple and a bit under my right eye were stinging like hell from my face hitting the carpet. To add insult to injury I had pissed myself a little bit when I lost consciousness. I got myself to the bathroom, and started to cry again. A look in the mirror confirmed that my face was really badly abraded. I was together enough to cross the house to get the Bactine in my mother's bathroom. I cleaned up the abrasions a bit, though it stung like hell. I was really shaken up, scared to be alone, so I changed my underwear and put on some street clothes, left a message on the cell phone Mom was carrying, and called our next-door neighbors. They are a very sweet British couple in their seventies. Even though they had just sat down to lunch, the wife came right over, and the husband followed shortly. He left after a bit but B. the wife, stayed with me 'til Mom got home. I noticed while I waited that my neck hurts as well. My doctor's office is closed between noon and 2:00pm, so at 2:00 I called them, and they told me to come in at 3:15. Well, apparently, it was a combination of the fact that I was coughing from the choking, which the doctor says causes a "bearing down" which he says slows the heart rate, with standing up at the same time. Even in healthy people, sometimes when you stand up too fast, the blood stays in the lower parts of the body, and you feel a little lightheaded. Combine that with the fact that my blood pressure has been high, and Laurie does a really good impersonation of a felled tree. Only the tree doesn't lose continence. The upper right side of my face looks like hamburger. My neck hurts on the left side, and it goes down into my back over my shoulder blade. Both my index fingers hurt. Since I lost consciousness and smacked the floor, my doc sent me for head and neck x-rays, and they x-rayed my left index finger. I don't think it's broken, I think I sprained it. He put me on blood pressure medication and gave me a scrip for Bactroban for my face. The radiologist said he would call us before 7pm if there were anything wrong with the x-rays, and we didn't hear anything, so I guess it's all muscular. I have a feeling the aches will be worse the next couple of days. Laurie of the Isles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:25:21 -0700 From: Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......> Subject: Ten Years! Apologies to anyone who gets this twice. My fellow UF bud Gail just reminded me that we have known each other ten years. Which means that I have been in the FK online fandom for ten years this month (May). I joined the UF first, it took me a few months to work up the courage to join the main list, with what I had heard about it's high traffic at the time. Just for the fun of it, I went looking for 10th anniversary gifts and found these at About.com : "10th Anniversary Traditional Gift: Tin or aluminum. The pliability of tin and aluminum is a symbol of how a successful marriage needs to be flexible and durable and how it can be bent without being broken." Tinfoil! Perfect for lining my umbrella hat so I can talk to my space chums! ;-) "10th Anniversary Gemstone: Diamond jewelry or blue sapphire." Blue Sapphire! My birthstone! Now were talkin', baby! "10th Anniversary Flower: Daffodil. Trumpet-shaped daffodils represent joy, cheerfulness, and happiness." One of my very favorite flowers, the epitome of Spring. I just wanted to thank you all for a great ten years. You're still family after all this time. Group Hug! Laurie of the Isles <Laudon1228@y.......> http://1-mad-squirrel.livejournal.com/ "Dignity, always dignity." Gene Kelly in "Singing in the Rain" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:23:49 -0700 From: Walt <wdoherty5@c.......> Subject: Re: PRAYER: Laurie uses her face as landing gear Good lord, girl, I'm glad you seem to be alright. Hugs and prayers. If anyone should have the nerve to ask what happened, just tell them you had an erotic dream about LaCroix and got carried away! ;->>> Walt D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie of the Isles" <laudon1228@y.......> To: <FORKNI-L@l.......> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:04 AM Subject: PRAYER: Laurie uses her face as landing gear > I had a big scare yesterday just before noon today. I > had just taken a sip of > coffee, and I started laughing over something on in an > email. I started to > choke, so I bent over to spit the coffee into the > wastebasket (it had a > plastic bag in it). Next I must have tried to get up > to get to the bathroom, > but I'm not sure, because the next thing I knew, I was > coming to (regaining > concsiousness) on the floor. For a few moments I had > no idea where I was or > what had happened, I started to cry, then called out > for my Mom. Then I > remembered that she had just left for a follow up with > her oral surgeon. I > started to remember what had happened prior to waking > up. The right side of > my forehead, my right temple and a bit under my right > eye were stinging like > hell from my face hitting the carpet. To add insult to > injury I had pissed > myself a little bit when I lost consciousness. > > I got myself to the bathroom, and started to cry > again. A look in the mirror > confirmed that my face was really badly abraded. I > was together enough to > cross the house to get the Bactine in my mother's > bathroom. I cleaned up the > abrasions a bit, though it stung like hell. I was > really shaken up, scared > to be alone, so I changed my underwear and put on some > street clothes, left > a message on the cell phone Mom was carrying, and > called our next-door > neighbors. They are a very sweet British couple in > their seventies. Even > though they had just sat down to lunch, the wife came > right over, and the > husband followed shortly. He left after a bit but B. > the wife, stayed with > me 'til Mom got home. I noticed while I waited that my > neck hurts as well. > > My doctor's office is closed between noon and 2:00pm, > so at 2:00 I called > them, and they told me to come in at 3:15. > > Well, apparently, it was a combination of the fact > that I was coughing from > the choking, which the doctor says causes a "bearing > down" which he says > slows the heart rate, with standing up at the same > time. Even in healthy > people, sometimes when you stand up too fast, the > blood stays in the lower > parts of the body, and you feel a little lightheaded. > Combine that with the > fact that my blood pressure has been high, and Laurie > does a really good > impersonation of a felled tree. Only the tree doesn't > lose continence. > > The upper right side of my face looks like hamburger. > My neck hurts on the > left side, and it goes down into my back over my > shoulder blade. Both my > index fingers hurt. Since I lost consciousness and > smacked the floor, my doc > sent me for head and neck x-rays, and they x-rayed my > left index finger. I > don't think it's broken, I think I sprained it. He put > me on blood pressure > medication and gave me a scrip for Bactroban for my > face. > > The radiologist said he would call us before 7pm if > there were anything > wrong with the x-rays, and we didn't hear anything, so > I guess it's all > muscular. > > I have a feeling the aches will be worse the next > couple of days. > > Laurie of the Isles > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:01:17 -0700 From: Billie Williams <mccelt2003@s.......> Subject: Re: PRAYER: Laurie uses her face as landing gear Brief delurk! Hi {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Laurie}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}!! <<Even in healthy people, sometimes when you stand up too fast, the blood stays in the lower parts of the body, and you feel a little lightheaded. Combine that with the fact that my blood pressure has been high, and Laurie does a really good impersonation of a felled tree. Only the tree doesn't lose continence.>> Since what Laurie is describing (replying on list just in case this happens to anyone else, and sorry for the cross post), in my experience, and according to some research we BOTH did.... First of all, what Laurie describes is a "Vaso-Vagal" response (part of the diagonostic assumption having come from the "bear down" thing), with Syncope or fainting. In most cases, and, I have had many patients with this problem-- particularly those with heart defects. V-V response results in LOW blood pressure for one thing, and is generally not associated with incontinence (wetting oneself), or loss of memory directly prior to the event. I'm not going into a big scary list of what it "might" be--a little seizure is one and some other things. I don't thing she was properly evaluated--well, what I mean is *thoroughly* enough, and I ask that we all keep Laurie in our prayers as she seeks further help after talking with her! <<I have a feeling the aches will be worse the next couple of days.>> OWWW, oh yeah, that part is for certain ((((((big hugs))))))!!! God Bless and Forever Yours, Billie-Lee [RN, et al, <g>] (who hopes her quote came out to four lines ::shudder!:::) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:13:29 -0700 From: Billie Williams <mccelt2003@s.......> Subject: Re: PRAYER: Laurie uses her face as landing gear OMIGOSH! I've no idea why my post came out looking like that. My humblest apologies :-( Billie-Lee ------------------------------ Archiver's note: I've cleaned up that post, eliminating the "=0A" and "=A0" codes and end-of-line equal signs, making it more readable. -- N. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:51:24 -0700 From: Megan MacLean <xena_goddess_of_war_99@y.......> Subject: Re: PRAYER: Laurie uses her face as landing gear Oh jeez hun. Hugs, prayers and some topical pain relief! I do hope you feel better. I'll be thinking of you and sending good vibes your way. Meg MacLean > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie of the Isles" > <laudon1228@y.......> > To: <FORKNI-L@l.......> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:04 AM > Subject: PRAYER: Laurie uses her face as landing > gear > > > >I had a big scare yesterday just before noon today. I > > had just taken a sip of > > coffee, and I started laughing over something on in an > > email. I started to > > choke, so I bent over to spit the coffee into the > > wastebasket (it had a > > plastic bag in it). Next I must have tried to get up > > to get to the bathroom, > > but I'm not sure, because the next thing I knew, I was > > coming to (regaining > > concsiousness) on the floor. For a few moments I had > > no idea where I was or > > what had happened, I started to cry, then called out > > for my Mom. Then I > > remembered that she had just left for a follow up with > > her oral surgeon. I > > started to remember what had happened prior to waking > > up. The right side of > > my forehead, my right temple and a bit under my right > > eye were stinging like > > hell from my face hitting the carpet. To add insult to > > injury I had pissed > > myself a little bit when I lost consciousness. > > > > I got myself to the bathroom, and started to cry > > again. A look in the mirror > > confirmed that my face was really badly abraded. I > > was together enough to > > cross the house to get the Bactine in my mother's > > bathroom. I cleaned up the > > abrasions a bit, though it stung like hell. I was > > really shaken up, scared > > to be alone, so I changed my underwear and put on some > > street clothes, left > > a message on the cell phone Mom was carrying, and > > called our next-door > > neighbors. They are a very sweet British couple in > > their seventies. Even > > though they had just sat down to lunch, the wife came > > right over, and the > > husband followed shortly. He left after a bit but B. > > the wife, stayed with > > me 'til Mom got home. I noticed while I waited that my > > neck hurts as well. > > > > My doctor's office is closed between noon and 2:00pm, > > so at 2:00 I called > > them, and they told me to come in at 3:15. > > > > Well, apparently, it was a combination of the fact > > that I was coughing from > > the choking, which the doctor says causes a "bearing > > down" which he says > > slows the heart rate, with standing up at the same > > time. Even in healthy > > people, sometimes when you stand up too fast, the > > blood stays in the lower > > parts of the body, and you feel a little lightheaded. > > Combine that with the > > fact that my blood pressure has been high, and Laurie > > does a really good > > impersonation of a felled tree. Only the tree doesn't > > lose continence. > > > > The upper right side of my face looks like hamburger. > > My neck hurts on the > > left side, and it goes down into my back over my > > shoulder blade. Both my > > index fingers hurt. Since I lost consciousness and > > smacked the floor, my doc > > sent me for head and neck x-rays, and they x-rayed my > > left index finger. I > > don't think it's broken, I think I sprained it. He put > > me on blood pressure > > medication and gave me a scrip for Bactroban for my > > face. > > > > The radiologist said he would call us before 7pm if > > there were anything > > wrong with the x-rays, and we didn't hear anything, so > > I guess it's all > > muscular. > > > > I have a feeling the aches will be worse the next > > couple of days. > > > > Laurie of the Isles > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 29 May 2008 to 30 May 2008 (#2008-128) ***************************************************************
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