There are 7 messages totalling 234 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. The names have changed but the game is the same.... (2) 2. My FK Moment (3) 3. Episode Discussion Reminder: 1966 4. If FK were being made now. . . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:25:30 EDT From: Lori Isabella <LDukie913@a.......> Subject: Re: The names have changed but the game is the same.... In a message dated 9/18/2007 4:00:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, LISTSERV@l....... writes: Would other things be different? Shifts in emphasis? Between the original _Nick Knight_ and our "Dark Knight," Jack became Natalie, of course. Could other such shifts be imagined to align the story with today's typical show structures? In today's FK Jack probably would not have changed into Natalie... but he would still be Nick's "sort of" love interest! It seems like shows have to have more than one "hook" to make it. In the above scenario FK would be set in San Francisco instead of Toronto. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:41:30 -0700 From: Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......> Subject: Re: The names have changed but the game is the same.... I'm not so sure they'd move it to San Francisco. Toronto has a huge (and fun!) artsie/gay "scene." I have local friends (here in the US) who are jealous I've been to Toronto. Even with the hook of Natalie being a male, it could stay in Toronto although I think the setting as to where in Toronto might be different. They could even have Nick sort of torn between Schanke and Natalie (if Natalie remained Natalie), perhaps with the added touch of LaCroix and/or Janette --Libs Lori Isabella <LDukie913@a.......> wrote: In the above scenario FK would be set in San Francisco instead of Toronto. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:07:28 -0500 From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......> Subject: Re: My FK Moment > Janette NatPack wrote: > They did sell off a lot of props when the show ended, > including the car. In > fact, I think there was more than one caddy. So, for all > we know, it *could* have been Nick's actual caddy! Unless it was sighted in Florida, it wasn't Nick's Caddy. That resides with one of our listmembers, who bought it from Brock Joliffe, the special effects/props guy on FK. HE bought it after the show ended. Nancy Kaminski who got to see the Caddy at LCA 3? 4? in Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:35:04 EDT From: KnghtWtch@a....... Subject: Re: My FK Moment In a message dated 9/20/2007 1:52:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, natpackjanette@g....... writes: They did sell off a lot of props when the show ended, including the car. In fact, I think there was more than one caddy. So, for all we know, it *could* have been Nick's actual caddy! Yes a lot of the props have been sold. When I went up to Toronto last year to purchase the Hero" car, Brock, the Special Effects Creator told me there was four cars. 2- 1962 and 2-1961. One 61 was used in the studio shots. That's the scenes where you see Nick, Nat and Schanke in the car and the back window of the car is cloudy. Then there was the stunt car. This was a 62 that was used in the fast pull-ups and seed shots in the show. Then there was a 62 that was used for the wreck shots. This car Brock still has on his effects lot. Then last but certainly not least is the "Hero Car". This is the 61 Caddy that you see Nick driving nice and gentle. Scenes like Vachon and Tracy in the car in outside shots. I'll make the offer again to anyone visiting the Disney World area in the future. If you'd like to see the car, just get in touch with me before you leave. At least three weeks. I've been in the process of getting the car back into good working order. Re-connecting the parts that the production company disconnected for the show. She goes to the 'doctor' Monday for her air conditioning. So the car may not be available. By the way, I name all my classic cars and our Caddy's name is Nicky. Guess why????? Also I'd like to mention, I have the car registered with the same plate/tag number she had in the show. So if you see 35H MV6 riding around in Central Florida........it is THE CADYY. KnightWitch ;-]= ForeverKnight diehard, but first and foremost a CaddyWhacker. And now I can prove it!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:32:35 -0500 From: Janette NatPack <natpackjanette@g.......> Subject: Re: My FK Moment On 9/21/07, KnghtWtch@a....... <KnghtWtch@a.......> wrote: > > > I'll make the offer again to anyone visiting the Disney World area in the > future. If you'd like to see the car, just get in touch with me before > you > leave. At least three weeks. Ye gods....my family just this past weekend decided to get together during the Christmas break, when my work isn't too busy and my sister's classes are between semesters. And guess where we've decided to get together? I'm flying into Orlando Dec 21 and out Dec 29....any chance we could see dear old 35H MV6? My mom and sister used to watch the show too, so I'm sure they'll get a kick out of it, although not as much of a kick as I will! -Janet(te) The world moves for love. It kneels before it in awe. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:16:03 -0400 From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......> Subject: Episode Discussion Reminder: 1966 Hello, This is a reminder that episode 1966 is the next up for discussion. The date is September 25, 2007. Have a nice weekend. Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:32:28 -0400 From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......> Subject: Re: If FK were being made now. . . >what in FK's execution would be different in today's environment? I'd like to think that there would be more of a story-arc. A greater willingness to let the characters evolve and change and less of a "neck-of-the-week-never-to-be-seen-again" effect. The goofy-looking flying effect aside, I've never had an issue with the relatively minimal special effects that FK used. If someone was to reimagine the show there are a few "twists" that could be done in terms of the characters that could be quite interest. Cast a strong older woman in LaCroix's role and a pretty-body model type (obviously, one who can also act better than a fence-post) as Jean-Pierre (Janette's role). I thought the male forensics specialist from the original Rick Springfield movie was an interesting character. You could recast that role with a man and adopt the "Tracy-model" by having Nick's partner be female. These are relatively small details, however, compared to having good writing for the actors to work from. BattleStar Galactica's writing has been fantastic. They've also a good cast...but the fact that Starbuck and Boomer are now female isn't really relevent except where that "permits" the story to go in a specific direction (IE, Apollo's tryst with Starbuck). Compare that to the dreck known as Flash Gorden...which is so bad in terms of clunky writing it defies description. Personally, I don't find much "wrong" with Forever Knight. It looks a little dated in its writing style and manner, but that is true of most older TV shows. The medium has changed and advanced. Along with the raft of reality-TV garbage that is out there, there have been some excellent advances in really making television shows into "min-movies" with serious attention paid to story and overall quality. Tim ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 20 Sep 2007 to 21 Sep 2007 (#2007-64) **************************************************************
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