FORKNI-L
Digest - 10 Sep 2007 to 11 Sep 2007 (#2007-55)
Tue, 11 Sep 2007
There are 5 messages totalling 202 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Question
2. Episode Discussion: UnReality TV
3. Episode Discussion: Feeding The Beast (2)
4. Episode Discussion Scheduling: 1966
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:25:25 -0700
From: Allison <smilewithviolets@y.......>
Subject: Re: Question
Wow. I was also a member of the FK fanclub. Good ole days.
Allison
unnamed cousin
smilewithviolets@y.......
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:42:15 -0500
From: Roxana Elizondo <roxeliz@h.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: UnReality TV
You know for the life of me I can't figure out what I did with the disc that
contains these episodes. I remember putting it in to watch Only the Lonely
for the discussion but it's since grown legs and walked away. It's probably
in some empty movie DVD case. Oddly enough my FK soundtrack disc is also
missing.
Tim Phillips said:
>1) Schanke is his normal amusing comic relief. Could he get any more
>over the top?
I love Schanke hamming it up. I loved all the bits of him thinking he was
going to be this big star. Schanke I love you! Also, everytime I see this I
flashforward to the X-Files/COPS crossover episode that was done. I wonder
how it works out for Nick knowing that there is actual documented evidence
of his existence as Detective Nick Knight out there. Granted there is
photographic evidence of him in his other guises but video is much more
concrete than old photographs.
>2) Nick's purple jacket. Talk about channeling Miami Vice fashions for
>a couple of scenes.
That jacket never fails to amuse me because for some reason I don't
associate Nick with wearing a purple Member's Only jacket. It's so dated
(well maybe not back then) and it's not exactly fashion forward. As Schanke
would say Nick is "Joe Cool" but it's wardrobe pieces like that that really
have me appreciate his more yummy attire.
>3) Nick: "they were in Vietnam, they were in the Persian Gulf and now
>they are in the bathroom."
> Natalie: "Well the sight of blood does strange things to people."
> Nick: "Tell me about it."
I caught an old episode of Friday the 13th: The Series recently and in it
was Jason Blicker who played Bobby. Coincidently enough it also had
Catherine Disher as a witch's assistant. I found it funny that his character
asked her out on a date but she blew him off and then a few years later the
actors have a few more scenes together. Ah you gotta love the pool of
Canadian actors in Toronto. It makes my viewing so much more enjoyable.
>7) Good grief. another Nick flying sequence. Boy, does that style of
>trying to actual show Nick in flight look bad.
I think when people call FK cheesy the sequences of simulating flight by
having GWD attached to a harness directly comes to mind. There were probably
different expectations back then but I doubt they were entirely happy with
the way they worked out. After all they eventually got rid of them and used
the much more effective camera swipe to show them launching into the air.
Roxana<------------------who is extremely late in commenting.
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:22:44 -0400
From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion: Feeding The Beast
1) it is a nice touch that they show Schanke's addiction in that he
smokes. The FK writing staff did try to keep as many folks involved as
they could. Showing Schanke smoking and talking about his addiction
probably only added a minute to the dialogue during the show, but it
draws the character into the story alongside Nick - who has a more
abnormal compulsion.
2) Nice piece of foreshadowing with Schanke saying "I was hoping she'd
say balding, married men" after asking Monica about her addiction and
her refusing to tell him. Not quite the truth...but Schanke was darn
close.
3) interesting choice as to who Nick picks to confess his "addiction" to
(Schanke). Although, there is little point to him "confessing" to
Natalie - who seems the logical choice - she already knows his problem.
4) during the dream sequence with LaCroix and Monica where Nick is
trying to admit his addiction in the 12-step conference room, Nick is
flanked by two large "sheets" of writing. It looks Hebrew or Arabic to
my eyes. Anyone able to confirm/recognize it?
5) it looks like they reused the diner set from Dying For Fame. The
waitress who brings Nick his food actual looks a little like Janette,
and is wearing the same hairstyle. And she also brings Nick
french-fries, which he proceeds to bury in ketchup.
6) interesting that Janette is so concerned at Nick re-embrancing his
darkside. Her calling Schanke and Natalie for an intervention is not
the pattern I would have expected from her. She's derided Nick's
attempt to become mortal in the past and urged him to respect his
vampiric nature.
7) Janette to Natalie: "It's your neck" when Natalie insists upon going
into the back of the Raven after Nick. Nice subtext. I also like that
Catherine then touches her own neck before she goes into the back room.
8) anyone think there is a deliberate symbolism in the color-choices
Nick is making in his painting? At the beginning of the episode, is
completely black. When Monica stops by, he has brightened/bloodied it
with red. At the end, he has largely overlaid those colors with bright
sun yellow.
9) it is amusing where Schanke gets his artistic reviewing skills from.
Tim
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:24:59 -0400
From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion Scheduling: 1966
1966 is the next episode up (on disk 5 in the 1st season DVD set).
Date is September 25th.
Tim
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:11:38 -0400
From: Melissa Puzio <melissa.puzio@c.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Feeding The Beast
<<6) interesting that Janette is so concerned at Nick re-embrancing his
darkside. Her calling Schanke and Natalie for an intervention is not
the pattern I would have expected from her. She's derided Nick's
attempt to become mortal in the past and urged him to respect his
vampiric nature.>>
Janette does want him to embrace and be what he is, a vampire. But Nick was
going on the vampire equivalent of an alcoholic bender, and his eyes were
gold. She did tell him that she can't have a scene and go work it off on
the dance floor.
Also, Janette is very pragmatic. She knows with modern times that vampires
must drink blood out of a bottle to stay hidden. With the exception of HF,
she never kills.
Melissa Puzio
melissa.puzio@c.......
http://melsdomain.50megs.com/
http://www.destinysedgedesigns.com
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