FORKNI-L
Digest - 21 Jul 2007 to 22 Jul 2007 (#2007-9)
Sun, 22 Jul 2007
There are 4 messages totalling 160 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. RE; FK Moment
2. Question about old Ger and CD charity event
3. Ms. Scrooge question
4. DVD versus Broadcast Footage
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Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:08:48 EDT
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: RE; FK Moment
While driving "THE CADDY' back from a car show last [k]nightI passed the
Polk Theater [ the land mark where Elvis did his first Fla performance] and
the movie playing was :Crazy Love."
KnightWitc;-]=
ForeverKnight diehard, but first and foremost a CaddyWhacker. And now I can
prove it!!!!!!!!
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Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:09:42 -0500
From: Roxana Elizondo <roxeliz@h.......>
Subject: Question about old Ger and CD charity event
I was doing some research using a few old newspaper databases and on a whim
I decided to pop in 'Forever Knight' and a few other searches into the
search engine.
One particular article that's dated July 26, 1994 and ran in the Toronto
Star caught my eye.
It's about a fundraising event involving several actors that was scheduled
for the Red Barn Theatre in Jackson's Point, Ont. The new executive director
of the theatre approached actors and other notable people to participate in
several presentations of A.R. Gurney's Love Letters and two of those actors
were Ger and Catherine who performed together.
I was wondering if any of the long time members of this list had gone to the
performance or had heard about it. It sounded like a really interesting
event and the idea behind it is absolutely brilliant. No rehearsal, no
memorization, no set, just two people reading aloud.
Roxana (roxeliz@h.......)
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Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:09:12 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: Ms. Scrooge question
>Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:27:58 -0400
>From: Naia Zifu <naia_zifu@b.......>
>
> Apparently the Nigel-clone's name is Shaun Austin-Olsen. IMDB didn't
>tell the name of the role he played, but some movie review site I stumbled
>on did. According to his IMDB profile, he was in an ep of FK, though, as a
>police captain in "Amateur Night".
I haven't looked at my DVD, but I think I do remember a lot of people
noticing that the police captain looked something like LaCroix, when we
talked about the ep on the list before. He looked something like LaCroix,
and in a way, he was also something of a father figure to Nick. Sort of
LaCroix' non-evil twin. <eg>
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Cousin of the Knight ~ N&NPacker
CotK Site -- http://lavender.fortunecity.com/evildead/879/
Even when they're trying to oppress you, it's still your country.
http://www.savetheinternet.com/
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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:59:17 -0700
From: "Amy R." <akr@l.......>
Subject: DVD versus Broadcast Footage
At 02:00 PM 7/19/2007, "Lynn L. Sowinski" <lls761@s.......> wrote:
><<It is entirely possible there were more scenes on TV than on the DVD.>>
When the first-season FK DVDs first came out, we all scrutinized them
very hard, and determined that they are the full Canadian cuts. If
you have seen the German broadcast cuts, or in a few cases the
"director's cuts" tapes that got into fan hands, then you may have
seen a little more footage than is on the DVDs. But if you saw only
North American broadcasts, probably not.
The German first-season editions do not have many bits that would
count as full extra "scenes," and almost no extra dialogue. Instead,
they have many longer establishing shots -- the camera sweeps longer
down a hallway, higher up a building, Nick takes more steps toward a
table, Schanke lingers longer at a door ... that kind of thing. The
German version of "Dead Issue" does have an additional flashback
scene in which the painter actually assaults Ilsa; it's very
disturbing to me, and I see entirely why it was left out of the North
American versions, though that did leave the story open to debate,
given the exact words of the dialogue, whether the painter was
personally hurting her or allowing others to hurt her (which is a
subject of additional special scrutiny because Bosch is a real
historical figure, and no such incident is laid against him in the
historical record). Of the first-season German episodes I've seen,
that is the one additional scene that made an impression on
me. Another episode has Nick pick up and put down a book next to his
answering machine; the title is not visible on the cover, and I don't
remember which episode it was.
The original US CBS airings were cut all to heck, as we all know,
missing scenes right and left. My favorite missing scene from that
is the bit in the alley "False Witness" when Janette learns Lacroix
is dead -- US fans didn't get that! Also, the scene of Nick kissing
Lacroix's ring in "Dark Knight, the Second Chapter" was not seen in
the US until it was repeated in "I Will Repay" (which may have been
why it was repeated?). The CBS airings were even shorter than the
eventual SciFi editions, which are also very much cut. My favorite
missing SciFi scenes are from second season, actually, in "A More
Permanent Hell," when Natalie's reckless behavior at the Raven and
Janette's intervention are trimmed down, but first-season is much
worse cut because it is longer to begin with. I think the SciFi
edition of "I Will Repay" is the most clumsily trimmed, around the
precinct scenes and Schanke's call to Myra.
However, the original CBS airings did very occasionally sometimes
include a scene that was not in the Canadian version (perhaps meant
to summarize other cut content?). For example, in "Last Act," the
scene with Erica's ghost in the caddy was missing from a Canadian
airing, while other scenes with her ghost were missing from the
original US airing. (I was very concerned about that on list back in
'97, if I remember correctly, because I'd only seen a Canadian copy
of that episode at that time, but I saw a fan vid someone made that
included that scene, and it took a while on list to puzzle out,
between people correcting each other, that we were all looking at
tapes of different airings, and that the broadcast airings had
differed.) I believe we got all the Erica scenes on the DVD, thank goodness.
In a better, more FK-friendly world, someone would have compiled all
the differences into tidy, comparative, extra features on the
DVDs. Ah, well. I'm so grateful to have the DVDs at all! Silly
packaging, no extras, whatever. For so long, it didn't look like we
would ever get anything.
Amy R.
akr@l.......
Bright Knight: http://users.LMI.net/akr/fk/
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