There are 3 messages totalling 97 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Nick's "Fortress of Solitude" 2. FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Jul 2007 to 6 Jul 2007 (#2007-95) 3. Father Figure ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 15:05:40 -0700 From: "Amy R." <akr@l.......> Subject: Nick's "Fortress of Solitude" In the 7/6/2007 digest, "Stone, Barbara" <STONEB@g.......> wrote: ><<"Fortress of solitude" does sound scripted. But could it be a >turn of phrase that the child could have run into in the comic >books she reads?>> "Fortress of Solitude" is a famous phrase from _Superman_. Lisa is comparing Nick's Toronto loft to Superman's arctic retreat, and thereby comparing lonely vampire hero Nick to lonely alien hero Superman, though of course she cannot know the breadth of applicability in her parallel. Lisa could have picked up the phrase directly from the comics, or from the Christopher Reeve movies, which she would have seen on TV or VHS given her age, or any other Superman stories she had encountered, but she must surely know she's citing Superman canon, junior fangirl as she is. Additionally, as the creators of _Superman_ were Canadian, there may be a tongue-in-cheek element of national proprietariness on the part of the writers in employing that particular phrase in that way. The "high-tech dungeon of doom," as Schanke calls Nick's loft, has the most attention paid to its "Fortress of Solitude" element in the first season, with the alarm system, camera, and shutters. Later, this all seems more taken for granted. The characters and the writers alike got used to it, perhaps. Or does Lacroix's return affect the role of the loft in the story? Amy R., Knightie akr@l....... Bright Knight: http://users.LMI.net/akr/fk/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 22:53:40 EDT From: Lori Isabella <LDukie913@a.......> Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Jul 2007 to 6 Jul 2007 (#2007-95) In a message dated 7/6/2007 4:04:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, LISTSERV@l....... writes: "Fortress of solitude" does sound scripted. But could it be a turn of phrase that the child could have run into in the comic books she reads? It is from Superman. If I am remembering correctly it was created entirely of blocks of ice and exists somewhere around the North Pole. So yes, she definitely could have seen it is a comic book.... or possibly a rerun of the Christopher Reeve Superman movies on TV. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 22:15:16 -0700 From: ChicagoMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......> Subject: Re: Father Figure I think this ep is one of my favorites...I often wind up picking it when I want an FK fix for some reason. Most of the things I like have been mentioned already. I also think the bedtime scene is cute. Oh and the refrigerator scene. Darnit I forgot the lines from it though. Mel ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 6 Jul 2007 to 7 Jul 2007 (#2007-96) ************************************************************
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