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Digest - 3 Jul 2007 to 4 Jul 2007 (#2007-93)

Wed, 4 Jul 2007

There are 15 messages totalling 397 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Episode Discussion: Father Figure (7)
  2. Moonlight - a remake of Forever Knight?! (4)
  3. Old story? (2)
  4. Admin: Downloads, was Re: Moonlight - a remake of Forever Knight?!
  5. FK project

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Date:    Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:41:08 -0500
From:    Roxana Elizondo <roxeliz@h.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Father Figure

>From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
>9) What is Schanke's "favorite television program" that he is watching
>when Nick calls.  The theme song sounds very familar, but I can't place
>it.
		Tim

"I Dream of Jeannie" (1965-1970)
Starring Barbara Eden and Larry Hagman

In my opinion there are two types of people, the "I Dream of Jeannie" people
and the "Bewitched" types. I guess Schank is the former. :D

Roxana

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Date:    Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:36:32 -0700
From:    Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......>
Subject: Re: Moonlight - a remake of Forever Knight?!

Here is something interesting which we didn't have
with FK in the early nineties:

http://moonlightfans.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

I saw there was a trailer on YouTube and one of the
posts was that it was obviously a Forever Knight
remake. There were also comments about it being more
like Angel.

Hmmmm, I can guess at the age demographics on those
comments ;)
--- cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......> wrote:

> It's scheduled for Fridays at 9:00, right after
> Ghost Whisperer.
>
> Most people have minds like concrete: mixed up or
> permanently set.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Cheryl Pillsbury <fknight420@c.......>
> To: FORKNI-L@l.......
> Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2007 8:31:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Moonlight - a remake of Forever
> Knight?!
>
>
> Thank you for sharing, when is it on in the eastern
> zone? It is similar and
> yet a touch different.
> Cheryl / fknight420@c.......
>
> Don't trade a treasure
> for an empty box
> www.agpress.50megs.com
> www.angusgrady.50megs.com
> www.foreverknight.5u.com
>


Kristen Fife, Author
http://writersweekend.com - Spend a Passionate Weekend With Your Muse


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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:39:52 +1200
From:    Kylie Tucker <kylie@r.......>
Subject: Re: Moonlight - a remake of Forever Knight?!

> Here is something interesting which we didn't have
> with FK in the early nineties:
> http://moonlightfans.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

Does anyone know where i can download Moonlight from?(offlist thanks:P)
I'm interested to see how much like a 'new' version of Forever Knight it
is. We wont have it here for a long time no doubt. I've seen Bloodties via
the net(http://www.eztvefnet.org/) and am a little undecided...i think the
story lines are a bit unoriginal...maybe Moonlight will be better.

Having seen brief comments that a lot of recasting has gone on after the
pilot, perhaps they are finding a mix where it may last longer than our
poor FK did...that is to make the fans happy AND TPTB! Not that one will
jump ship and leave FK behind! FK has its own wonderful kind of mojo!

Viva le Chaviler!!

Kylie.
Knightraven.

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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:35:20 +0930
From:    Dot <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: Old story?

   Hi,

   I was wondering if anyone can help me, I have found in my file a
story called " Different Lives" written
   by Mary Wilkerson. I have only part one, there is at least a part
two, but it isn't downloaded. and it
   says on the bottom of the story  ..return to my home page.

   Could anyone have the rest of this story, or know the Home page
referred to...an FK fiction for sure

   Thank you.....Dot

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Date:    Tue, 3 Jul 2007 23:15:10 -0700
From:    KC Monroe <kaysea1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: Old story?

--- Dot <jennii35@i.......> wrote:

> Could anyone have the rest of this story, or know
> the Home page referred to...an FK fiction for sure

I googled the title and author and found this:
http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/vampire/98/different.html


KC


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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:37:03 +0200
From:    cousinlucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......>
Subject: Re: Moonlight - a remake of Forever Knight?!

I'm not a list mod or anything and it's up to McLisa or Don to decide,
but I feel very uncomfortable if file sharing is discussed on this list
and if links are provided to certain sites. I know for the people
outside the US and CA (this includes me as well) it is difficult to see
shows like that in a timely order. But no matter if a lot of us do it,
downloading TV shows is illegal and shouldn't be discussed here.
Especially since this list is run via a public university's server.It
might get this list into serious trouble.
Just my 2 cents.

Doris
>
> Does anyone know where i can download Moonlight from?(offlist thanks:P)
>
>

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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 17:00:32 +0200
From:    P J <blue_twingo772@y.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion: Father Figure

From:    "Phillips, Tim" :
> 17) man, when Nick sleeps...he really sleeps like the dead (rimshot)<

I find this time-filling scene that comes before really an odd choice.
 Restocking my gory food supply is exactly what I would do while I have a young girl
 sleeping upstairs.

In addition, I noticed that Nick changed for this task into a white shirt
 (which looks very nice on him by the way). And later, when he's asleep on the couch
 he wears his clothing from before again.

> 11) Wow...LaCroix is certainly in a mood when Janette gives Daniel his gift.
  A little over-the-top for the character.  Looks like an angry cat hissing at
 a dog it doesn't like.<

I've been wondering what exactly Lacroix is eating in the flashback. Blood from
 a bowl? I find it unusual that he makes such efforts to keep Daniel company
 during dinner.

Petra.


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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:17:34 -0700
From:    Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......>
Subject: Re: Moonlight - a remake of Forever Knight?!

You are definitely right, there. And McLisa has asked me to step in should
 things like this pop up and she doesn't immediately say something. So I am -
 please, no file sharing!

  Maybe we'll be lucky as many shows are now available to watch LEGALLY on-line
 after they air and perhaps Moonlighting will be one of them.

I refuse to say it is a remake of Forever Knight. Why? Because when Angel first
 was announced, there were a lot of people claiming it was a "FK" ripoff. No,
 it was nothing like FK.

  Vampire detectives are not new. Very slightly before FK, there was PN Elrod's
 first vampire detective book and there was another writer with a similiar
 concept whose book came out at the same time (I think the author was Lee Killough
 though I may be remembering wrong). Neither knew the other's book was coming
 out<g>

  I'll probably love the new series if it is good just as I love Angel once I
 watched it (especially the fifth season). I'm really looking forward to it along
 with the return of Bloodties!

  --Libby

cousinlucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......> wrote:
  downloading TV shows is illegal and shouldn't be discussed here.
Especially since this list is run via a public university's server.It
might get this list into serious trouble.
Just my 2 cents.

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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 17:34:22 +0200
From:    P J <blue_twingo772@y.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion: Father Figure

One would think that after his experience with Divia, Lacroix would know better
 than to propose bringing a child across.
But of course, the script writers were oblivious to that at this moment in
 time.

Petra.


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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:45:50 -0400
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: Downloads, was Re: Moonlight - a remake of Forever Knight?!

Libby and Doris have already mentioned this, so I'm chiming in as listowner to
 agree that file-sharing and downloads aren't something for Forkni-l. This is
 because of copyright problems.

BTW, the new show is called Moonlight, I think, rather than Moonlighting, which
 was the 80's hit with Bruce Willis.

For those of us in the U.S., I hope we have a happy Independence Day. For the
 rest of us, have a happy Wednesday.

McLisa
listowner, Forkni-l,
mclisa@m.......

-----Original Message-----
>
>
>You are definitely right, there. And McLisa has asked me to step in should
 things like this pop up and she doesn't immediately say something. So I am -
 please, no file sharing!
>

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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 09:04:58 -0700
From:    Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Father Figure

It has been a while since I've seen the episode, but I've always assumed
 LaCroix did it more-or-less to irk Nick. Or it very well could be that LaCroix saw
 Divia as a "vampire gone bad" which some do, and didn't think it'd automatically
 happen again.

  --Libby

P J <blue_twingo772@y.......> wrote:
  One would think that after his experience with Divia, Lacroix would know
 better than to propose bringing a child across.
But of course, the script writers were oblivious to that at this moment in
 time.

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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:09:51 -0400
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion: Father Figure

>) is there some back story to why the characer of Dell is introduced???
>Was John Kapelos simply unavailable at the last moment

This must be the time J.K. had back trouble.  I remember that they brought in a
 character for one episode for that reason.  It's probably also why we get the
 scene in the armchair where Schanke is watching I Dream of Jeannie.

BTW, the scene where Nat digs the bullet out of Nick contains some adlibbing.
  The vampires' reflections were supposed to be removed in post production, but
 sometimes this wasn't done. Catherine Disher and Ger improvised the lines about
 Nick's being able to see himself in the mirror sometimes as evidence of
 progress.  They wanted to explain the inconsistency.

McLisa
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:19:14 +0200
From:    cousinlucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Father Figure

Also, didn't LC mention that Divia was "bad" from the start, even when
she was still mortal? And that her evil was magnified by her vampire
master, meaning that she would have turned out "bad" even if she had
been older when brought across.
Daniel seems like a normal kid and maybe LC really found the prospect of
creating such a young vampire exciting.
I haven't rewatched the ep so I'm relying on memory here - is it clear
that it was LC who brought Daniel across or could it have been Janette
as well?

Libby Singleton schrieb:
> It has been a while since I've seen the episode, but I've always assumed
 LaCroix did it more-or-less to irk Nick.

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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 10:27:25 -0700
From:    Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Father Figure

But didn't Daniel get found by the Jedi and eventually become Darth Vader? Or
 do I have my young actors confused?

  If I don't, I wonder what LC would think of THAT ;-)

  --Libs

cousinlucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......> wrote:

Daniel seems like a normal kid and maybe LC really found the prospect of
creating such a young vampire exciting.

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Date:    Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:08:12 -0400
From:    Cheryl Pillsbury <fknight420@c.......>
Subject: FK project


I have started a book, like a biography of Nicholas, it's huge, but I
thought it would a lot of fun, if anyone would like to add to the book,
please send it to me.  Please add the date and time so I can keep the time
in order.  This will be a book for all of us to share, among ourselves.
Thank you and opinions are always welcomed.

Cheryl / fknight420@c.......



Don't trade a treasure
for an empty box
www.agpress.50megs.com
www.angusgrady.50megs.com
www.foreverknight.5u.com



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