There are 3 messages totalling 145 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Episode Discussion: Hunters 2. Episode Discussion: Dead Issue 3. Welcome Back ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:08:28 +0200 From: P J <blue_twingo772@y.......> Subject: Episode Discussion: Hunters I like this episode because it adds more depth to Schanke's character, same as "I will repay" did for Natalie. In the German dubbed version this is the episode where Nick and Schanke switch from the formal address "Sie" to the informal "Du", signifying a turn from professional relationship to friendship. Interestingly, the translators made some alterations towards the end of the episode, like throwing in the line for Schanke: "Seit wann dutzen wir uns eigentlich?", meaning "Since when do we say 'Du'?" instead of "You've read my files?". And instead of "You've lost that battle a long time ago", Nick says "Ich hätte nie gedacht, dass so einer wie Du mal mein Freund wird", meaning: "I never thought that someone like you would become my friend". Don't know why the translators changed that, but I find this is a nice touch, contrary to other occasions where they pretty often messed things up. From: "Phillips, Tim": > 5) one of LaCroix most ruthless moments when he tells Nick to leave Janette in the forest to die instead of going back to help her. < Yes, I always have a hard time with that. As an UFfer, I'd say this scene shows whom LC considers more important. But as someone with common sense, I find it odd that LC wants to leave Janette behind instead of coming to her assistance as it should be his job. Petra. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:13:58 -0500 From: Roxana Elizondo <roxeliz@h.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dead Issue >From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......> >3) I like that Stonetree doesn't ignore the evidence give him by Nick >(when he goes back for the 2nd statement). The Inspector and his wife >are personal friends, but Stonetree is too much of a professional to >ignore a crime when the evidence is waved in his face In watching the three seasons and the three different captains there really is a large discrepancy between the stories that feature the captains. Stonetree by far recieved the most individual storylines as opposed to Reese or poor Cohen. Now I personally like all three captains for indivdiual reasons but I think a contributing factor to my preference towards Stonetree overall is that as a viewer I got to know more about him. This episode and others show us the man and friendships behind the cop. >4) anyone know what the "veggie drinks" were that Ger was drinking on >set? Looks like green chalk in milk. Probably was just green >foodcoloring in something like buttermilk...but man that doesn't look >like anything anyone should be eating. I like the little salud gesture Nick gives to the portrait of Illse. >5) did anyone else notice that Natalie was eating her lunch with >surgical tweezers from one of the forensic lab's tool trays? >Man she must be fun at a office pot-luck. >Proof of bravery in the Toronto police department is to eat something >unidentified that Natalie brings to the Christmas party. This really cracks me up how Natalie has complete disregard for the eww factor in others. Grace was sort of portrayed in the same way which is why I really dug their interactions. They both had no problem eating chicken that Natalie had expertly cut using a surgical knife or dumping birthday cake remains into the hazardous waste bin. Yes the knife and the forceps had been properly steralized but there's something about the idea that their primary function is to be used on dead human bodies that creates a slight ick factor. LOL Natalie I love you! It sort of reminds me of an episode of X-Files, coincidentally enough about vampires, where Scully is performing an autopsy and examining stomach contents. The victim had eaten pizza and while listing the toppings she finds she starts getting hungry herself. Also, isn't Natalie's use of medical instruments other for what they're intended for part of the Forever Knight Drinking game? >6) that said, I like the little "slice of real life" that the show ends >at a precinct picnic/ballgame. Right at the very end of that, just >before the cutaway to the credits, Natalie has an odd look on her face >and it seems like she's about to say something. Anyone know if there is >a line or two that was scripted and shot but edited out? > > Tim I love the picnic scene and everything about it. I like how both Nat and Schanke tag team Nick into coming down. It really shows how far Nick and Schanke's partnership has progressed when Schanke actually wants a turn at talking to Nick. I also like how Nick really doesn't put up much of a fight at the thought of attending the picnic. Also amusing was Nick's word choice. He talks about the possibility of bursting into flames during the "hot dog and ice cream courses". He speaks of it like a formal sit down dinner complete with waiters rather than a casual picnic. It's a nice moment that hints at Nick's age without actually saying it out loud. Nick's reaction to the Schanke's team winning the ballgame was a lot of fun and it was great to see him so enthused about the victory. It was also nice to see Nick greeting other people from a far. It's so easy to think of Nick as being a total terror, hence the fanon term "Knightmare", but it's moments like these that show that Nick is well liked around the precinct. And the NNPacker in me adores Nick's greeting to Natalie. Nick rubbing her legs was a really affectionate gesture that can be viewed both as friendly and "very" friendly, especially right in front of Stonetree. This light kiss on the lips was also much appreciated. What I love about their portrayal in season 1 is that their relationship is light and non-angsty. It bounces between lightly flirtageous and friendly so seemlessly. And yes that final cut does seem odd. I wonder if maybe Catherine Disher was expecting them to call cut just before that because perhaps that's where the script ends and when they didn't she kept going until they did. Then the editor probably just decided to include all the footage. That's my completely uninformed opinion. And because I have a major wardrobe fetish the costuming during the picnic is made of total squee. Shanke's print shirt is a riot and Natalie's baseball jersey cements the idea to me that Natalie is a baseball fan. It's unfortunate that we couldn't see what team she was sporting and that later on the jersey is gone for the night scenes. Nick totally cracks me up. He shows up wearing this GQ white suit when we know perfectly well that he owns casual duds. It's almost like he's dressing up for the occassion. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:52:12 -0400 From: Portia <portia1@m.......> Subject: Welcome Back I know this is late, but welcome back McL!!!!! :) Portia ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 20 Jun 2007 to 21 Jun 2007 (#2007-80) **************************************************************
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