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Digest - 19 Mar 2007 to 20 Mar 2007 (#2007-68)

Tue, 20 Mar 2007

There are 6 messages totalling 253 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Episode Discussion: Dance by the Light of the Moon
  2. The Forever Knight/Blood Ties yahoogroup (3)
  3. Forever Knight/ Blood Ties Fan Fiction
  4. Admin: Please Not on Fkfic-l was Re: Forever Knight/ Blood Ties Fan
     Fiction

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Date:    Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:52:31 -0700
From:    Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dance by the Light of the Moon

THANK YOU Me Me Me.
This is actually one of my favorite episodes because
it shows Nick how seductive Janette truly truly truly
was to him.
--- Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......> wrote:


> > I would like to restart the episode discussions
> <...>
> > I believe the next episode would be
> > Dance by the Light of the Moon in Season 1.
> > For a date, I am going to propose March 27th
>


Kristen Fife, Author
http://writersweekend.com - Spend a Passionate Weekend With Your Muse


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Date:    Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:07:34 -0700
From:    Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......>
Subject: Re: The Forever Knight/Blood Ties yahoogroup

As a writer in both the fanfic and original fiction
worlds/markets, and someone who has sat in on several
panels at Writer's Conferences addressing IP as it
relates to fanfic, I just would like to drop a
cautionary note regarding posted crossover fiction,
should it arise. There is a reason that this FK list
does not allow crossovers with printed media of any
sort.

I'm a huge fan of Tanya Huff and the new series, but
unless an author has explicitly stated publicly and in
writing that s/he endorses and welcomes fan fiction
(ie Mercedes Lackey and Katherine Kurtz publish
anthologies with derivative fiction in them by fans as
vs. Anne Rice who is vehemently AGAINST it in any
form) I won't touch printed material fanfiction. I'm
all for a discussion list regarding the
similarities/differences between the two series, but
be very very careful, especially now that Tanya Huff's
books are going to become a "hot" genre. Forever
Knight is a beloved (but let's be honest *now*
obscure) original series.
--- Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......> wrote:

But I know many people who also enjoy hanging around
with Forever Knight fans with similar
> interests as well as prefer smaller sites.
>
>
>   http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/fkbt/
>
>

Kristen Fife, Author
http://writersweekend.com - Spend a Passionate Weekend With Your Muse



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Date:    Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:28:39 -0700
From:    Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......>
Subject: Re: The Forever Knight/Blood Ties yahoogroup

As a writer in the professional market who has been on numerous panels at sci
fi cons over the years (and will be again this weekend in Memphis), any Forever
Knight crossovers should strictly be based on the television series and not
Tanya's books. If I hear she's not wanting fan fic based on the series, I won't
allow it on the fkbt list. However, once a book series becomes a television
series, fanfic based on the *television* series is probably to be expected.

  In fact, I do know a friend who knows her so I'll see if she has time to
forward that question.<g>

  Of course whether or not FK/BT cross overs are allowed on our fanfic list is
up to McLisa and Don. Maybe they'll read this and clarify.

  --Libs

Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......> wrote:
   I just would like to drop a
cautionary note regarding posted crossover fiction,
should it arise. There is a reason that this FK list
does not allow crossovers with printed media of any
sort.

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Date:    Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:10:34 -0400
From:    Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......>
Subject: Re: The Forever Knight/Blood Ties yahoogroup

I agree with Kristen Fife:

>I'm a huge fan of Tanya Huff and the new series, but
>unless an author has explicitly stated publicly and in
>writing that s/he endorses and welcomes fan fiction
>I won't touch printed material fan-fiction.

***It'll be interesting to see how Tanya responds to the fan fiction. If
you're interested in checking out her comments, go to the Lifetime, Blood
Ties site and click on her section at the bottom of the page. She's
constantly updating her comments on the series. Here's the URL:

http://www.lifetimetv.com/shows/bloodties/

Also, here's a comment she made, and notice she says, "they're willing to
pay you so that they can play in it", meaning the world she's created.

Tanya's Quote: "Yeah, yeah, there's always the chance their interpretation
will be a little... unique but that's not the point. The point is ­ and pay
attention here, this is important ­ that someone liked your world, something
you created out of the flotsam and jetsam floating around between your ears,
enough to want to play in it. That's an incredible compliment. ***(Here's
where she may allow the fan-fiction based on this comment)***Not only that,
but they're willing to pay you so that they can play in it and honesty
forces me to admit that's pretty cool too."

***This should be enough information to how she feels, PAY ME TO PLAY,
unless she states otherwise. This also may be her feelings on the
fan-fiction, but we'll have to wait and see.

But if Tanya does allow the fan fiction, I would love to see the characters
of Forever Knight and Blood Ties interacting. Darn, those would make some
exciting tales. Can you imagine mixing up those characters?  Nat and Mike,
Janette and Henry, and just where would Nick fit in?  Would he go into a
jealous rage against Nat and Mike or Janette and Henry. <Grinning at the
possibilities>  Hopefully, Tanya will make it known if fan fiction is
allowed, and if so, someone will write a FK/BT crossover.

If the fan-fiction is allowed, and authors are willing to write FK/BT
crossovers, we could see another surge of FK fan-fiction--let's hope!

on 3/19/07 9:28 PM, Libby Singleton at libratsie@s....... wrote:
> Forever Knight crossovers should strictly be based on the television series
> and not Tanya's books.

***I totally agree! IMO, I think we will see BT fan fiction, but it's a bit
early (not enough aired episodes) to see how this will play out.

If I hear she's not wanting fan fic based on the
> series, I won't allow it on the fkbt list. However, once a book series
becomes
> a television series, fanfic based on the *television* series is probably to
be
> expected.

***I think Libby is right, it's probably will happen!

Deborah A. Hymon
DeborahAHymon.com

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Date:    Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:32:01 -0400
From:    Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......>
Subject: Forever Knight/ Blood Ties Fan Fiction

I was surfing around on the internet, on several Blood Ties sites. If this
is legit, it seems we can write Blood Ties fan-fiction, which means we can
write FK/BT crossovers!

Here's the comment from Tanya Huff:

Posted by: Tanya Huff | Monday, March 19, 2007 at 08:54 AM

Destiny -- to answer your question about fanfic: as long as you're writing
for your own enjoyment and not making any money off it, I personally
consider it to be a compliment. However, it gets complicated legally if we
know about it so please try and stay under the radar.

**********

If you want to check this out personally, here's the URL:

http://bloodblog.lifetimetv.com/2007/03/take_the_money_.html#comments

The post is near the bottom of the page.

Deborah
DeborahAHymon

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Date:    Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:58:49 -0400
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: Please Not on Fkfic-l was Re: Forever Knight/ Blood Ties Fan
Fiction

I'm quoting the complete post in this case because I'm acting as listowner of
Forkni-l and Fkfic-l. Naturally I can't tell anybody what to write off Fkfic-l.
On Fkfic-L. I have to say no to Blood Ties Crossovers.  Notice what Tanya Huff
said about it's being complicated legally and staying under the radar? This is
because she could still lose her copyright if the characters are generally
used.  Also, her publishers have a say. Then there's whoever she sold the tv rights
to, that are producing the series. So please, don't cross FK and Blood Ties on
Fkfic-l. If there start to be really major differences in the books and the
show, like the differences between Superman in print and Lois and Clark, then
we'll see. But for now, the print crossover rule applies on Fkfic-l.

Thanks!

McLisa
listowner, Fkfic-l and Forkni-l
mclisa@m.......


>
>I was surfing around on the internet, on several Blood Ties sites. If this
>is legit, it seems we can write Blood Ties fan-fiction, which means we can
>write FK/BT crossovers!
>
>Here's the comment from Tanya Huff:
>
>Posted by: Tanya Huff | Monday, March 19, 2007 at 08:54 AM
>
>Destiny -- to answer your question about fanfic: as long as you're writing
>for your own enjoyment and not making any money off it, I personally
>consider it to be a compliment. However, it gets complicated legally if we
>know about it so please try and stay under the radar.
>
>**********
>
>If you want to check this out personally, here's the URL:
>
>http://bloodblog.lifetimetv.com/2007/03/take_the_money_.html#comments
>
>The post is near the bottom of the page.
>
>Deborah
>DeborahAHymon

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