FORKNI-L
Digest - 12 Mar 2007 to 14 Mar 2007 (#2007-62)
Wed, 14 Mar 2007
There are 19 messages totalling 674 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Blood Ties (14)
2. FORKNI-L Digest - <first ever> to 13 Mar 2007 (#2007-1)
3. the longevity of vampire shows
4. Admin: Please watch the quote limits
5. LC and Getting N*ked
6. Blood Ties/ More INFO about Blood Ties
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:12:23 -0700
From: Sherri Horun <sherrihorun@y.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
I really enjoyed the show and the shots of the tower caught my eye to. What I
found interesting was when Henry (Kyle Schmid) said that two vampires could not
be in the same place at one time with getting territorial. That concept was
totally different then Forever Knight where keeping your "children" close was so
important. Did anyone else catch that?
SherriLynn
Lisa Stevens <lstevens39@e.......> wrote:
> So I watched this last night too and I couldn't help but get nostalgic and
wistful with shots of the CN Tower at sunrise and sunset. I kept expecting Nick
to be working at the police precinct. It
Lisa Hobbs Stevens
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:18:03 -0700
From: Jeannie Ecklund <gersknightlady@y.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
What is this show your talking about? I think I have
a DVD movie by that name but have never watched it.
Jeannie
--- Sherri Horun <sherrihorun@y.......> wrote:
> I really enjoyed the show and the shots of the tower
> caught my eye to. What I found interesting was when
> Henry (Kyle Schmid) said that two vampires could not
> be in the same place at one time with getting
> territorial. That concept was totally different
> then Forever Knight where keeping your "children"
> close was so important. Did anyone else catch that?
>
>
> SherriLynn
>
> Lisa Stevens <lstevens39@e.......> wrote:
> > So I watched this last night too and I couldn't
> help but get nostalgic and wistful with shots of the
> CN Tower at sunrise and sunset. I kept expecting
> Nick to be working at the police precinct. It
>
> Lisa Hobbs Stevens
>
>
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:29:04 EDT
From: Lisa Knust <LthePoet@a.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
Hi-
Yes, I did catch that about only 1 vampire per territory. Lacroix would
so not do well with that I think considering his tendency to keep Nick
within his reach or at least Janette...
I personally kinda like the idea of the vampire family, definitely makes
eternity seem less lonely.
Lisa K.
_LthePoet@a......._ (mailto:LthePoet@a.......)
"For the Blood is the Life..."
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:34:24 -0700
From: Sherri Horun <sherrihorun@y.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
It's on Sunday Nights, 9 PM on Lifetime.
http://www.lifetimetv.com/shows/bloodties/
SherriLynn
Jeannie Ecklund <gersknightlady@y.......> wrote:
What is this show your talking about? I think I have
a DVD movie by that name but have never watched it.
Jeannie
--- Sherri Horun wrote:
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:34:11 -0500
From: Lisa Stevens <lstevens39@e.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
Jeannie Ecklund wrote:
> What is this show your talking about? I think I have
> a DVD movie by that name but have never watched it.
>
> Jeannie
>
Jeannie,
We are discussing the 2 hour pilot for Blood Ties that aired on
Lifetime Sunday Night it's a new original series.
Lisa Hobbs Stevens
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:37:45 -0500
From: Lisa Stevens <lstevens39@e.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
Sherri Horun wrote:
> I really enjoyed the show and the shots of the tower caught my eye to. What
I found interesting was when Henry (Kyle Schmid) said that two vampires could
not be in the same place at one time with getting territorial. That concept was
totally different then Forever Knight where keeping your "children" close was
so important. Did anyone else catch that?
>
>
I caught that as well.
Lisa Hobbs Stevens
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:48:32 -0400
From: Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
First I want to say I'm totally in love with this show. I love that the
characters are portrayed by actors who are a bit older. I haven't been this
excited since FK first aired. By the way, People magazine's March 9th
edition has a two page (Full-center of magazine) bulletin for Blood Ties.
Who knows, these type of articles may be collectable in the future just like
the FK stuff.
Yes, I did catch Henry's comment, and it was very different from Forever
Knight. I'm not sure I like this trait in 'my' vampires. It sure makes it
more interesting when the T.V show or book has more than one vampire
interacting with the local mortals. Can you imagine if another vampire comes
to town and is attracted to Vicky, moving in on Henry's territory? I enjoyed
watching the FK vampire's contact with Nat, Schanke, Tracy, etc. In my
opinion it made the show more interesting.
I agree with Lisa, there were several Toronto scenes that reminded me of FK,
also the flashbacks even though they were filmed different. Also, the
coroner's humor reminded me of Nat, but I did feel it was forced. Catherine
Disher is wonderful at humor, and proved it the few times the writers
allowed Nat to have fun. Catherine delivered her lines with ease and her
timing was great!
I can't wait for another episode of Blood Ties this Sunday.
Deborah
DeborahAHymon.com
>>>on 3/13/07 11:12 PM, Sherri Horun at sherrihorun@y....... wrote:
What I found interesting was when Henry (Kyle Schmid) said that two vampires
could not be in the same place at one time with getting territorial. That
concept was totally different then Forever Knight where keeping your
"children" close was so important. Did anyone else catch that?
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:01:53 -0700
From: ChicagoMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - <first ever> to 13 Mar 2007 (#2007-1)
For example, we no longer had things like LC running
a strip contest with that cheesy speech about getting
in touch with oneself by getting naked.
Where was that? *is surprised*
I never knew that two of my fave shows wound up
against each other that way...and I think USA didn't
have smooth sailing with HL and its spinoff either,
but that's not for this board.
Mel
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:58:20 -0700
From: Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
That was part of the major plotline of Tanya Huff's
books. Keep in mind that this show is based on a very
well known author's books, and from what I have read
she has had some say in the scripts. (I'm a big fan.)
--- Sherri Horun <sherrihorun@y.......> wrote:
What I found interesting was when
> Henry (Kyle Schmid) said that two vampires could not
> be in the same place at one time without getting
> territorial. Did anyone else catch that?
>
>
> SherriLynn
>
> Lisa Stevens <lstevens39@e.......> wrote:
> > So I watched this last night too and I couldn't
> help but get nostalgic and wistful with shots of the
> CN Tower at sunrise and sunset. I kept expecting
> Nick to be working at the police precinct. It
>
> Lisa Hobbs Stevens
>
Kristen Fife, Author
http://writersweekend.com - Spend a Passionate Weekend With Your Muse
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:05:27 -0700
From: Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
Blood Ties as a series is based on the books written
by Tanya Huff, an Ontario native (which is why the
show is mostly based in Toronto, although it is shot
mostly on location in Vancouver.) A couple of years
ago at the conference I attend annually, one of the
Tor editors was discussing the fact that when you have
something that has a dedicated fan base (in this case
she was talking about BSG fanfic) she said a lot of
times the fan fiction is as good as, if not better,
than some of the original writers'. Ahem. I think we
have enough fan fiction that if FK ever DOES get
resurrected, we have enough fodder for at least, oh, a
gazillion seasons :)
--- Sherri Horun <sherrihorun@y.......> wrote:
> It's on Sunday Nights, 9 PM on Lifetime.
> http://www.lifetimetv.com/shows/bloodties/
>
> SherriLynn
>
> Jeannie Ecklund <gersknightlady@y.......> wrote:
> What is this show your talking about? I think I
> have
> a DVD movie by that name but have never watched it.
>
> Jeannie
>
Kristen Fife, Author
http://writersweekend.com - Spend a Passionate Weekend With Your Muse
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:50:45 -0400
From: gwatson2 <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Re: the longevity of vampire shows
Lisa, I'm really glad you went into all this background in such detail. It
reminds me of too many other cancellations: Angel and Crusade come to mind.
It's horrible to see backroom politics getting FK cancelled like that. But
it's good to hear that the ratings *weren't* the reason, after all. I had
always thought that was the reason.
I so wish they'd told the Highlander folk to buzz off with their demands,
and done all that (badly needed!) publicity for FK. We could have--should
have--had more. (Mourns.)
Greer
gwatson2@r.......
http://ca.geocities.com/gwatson2@rogers.com/index.html
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:57:43 -0230
From: "English, Darlene" <denglish@s.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
Is it airing in Canada? I have scanned the listings, but might have
missed it.
Darlene
-----Original Message-----
From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......] On Behalf
Of Sherri Horun
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:04 AM
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
It's on Sunday Nights, 9 PM on Lifetime.
http://www.lifetimetv.com/shows/bloodties/
SherriLynn
Jeannie Ecklund <gersknightlady@y.......> wrote:
What is this show your talking about? I think I have
a DVD movie by that name but have never watched it.
Jeannie
--- Sherri Horun wrote:
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:37:07 -0700
From: "jerezfino@y......." <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......> wrote: That was part of the major
plotline of Tanya Huff's
books. <snip>
--- Sherri Horun wrote:
> <snip> two vampires could not
> be in the same place at one time <snip>
That line caught my attention also, however, not having read Tanya Huff's
series of books, it reminded me instead of another vampire series: Chelsea Quinn
Yarbro's St. Germain novels. Aside from this issue, however, Henry bears little
resemblance to the St. Germain character, but rather is more like our beloved
Forever Knight vampires in many aspects. My interest has definitely been piqued
and I'm looking forward to seeing more of Blood Ties. Even though it's based on
an established series of books, I know I'll still be looking for comparisons
(and differences) with FK.
For those of you who have read Tanya Huff's books, how did the pilot compare
to the written novel in terms of faithfully rendering the character from page
to screen?
:) Boomer
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:30:00 -0700
From: Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
"jerezfino@y......." <jerezfino@y.......> wrote:
For those of you who have read Tanya Huff's books, how did the pilot compare
to the written novel in terms of faithfully rendering the character from page
to screen?
:) Boomer
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It was quite close in some respects, but off in others. They messed with soeme
of the plot details of the first book. The actor playing Henry, while very
cute in a Heath Ledger clone sort of way, does not really resemble the Henry of
the books. Henry, as described, while appearing young, had a certain gravitas
about his appearance and demeanor that the Henry of the show lacks, IMO. They
would also seem to have rather predictably eliminated Henry's bisexuality.
They are also mispronouncing the last name of Vicky's ex police partner Mike
Cellucci. "C", before an "e" in Italian is pronouced "ch"(as in "cello"). It
should be "Chellucchi". They are pronouncing it "Selluchi"
Does anyone know if they are using the storylines of the books to create
episodes? The preview for the second episode seems to involve Voodoo. I've read
through the books twice and I don't remember Voodoo.
Laurie of the Isles
<Laudon1228@y.......>
http://1-mad-squirrel.livejournal.com/
"I don`t know what caffine does for you,but I`m pretty sure without it your
head caves in" - Dave, 'News Radio'
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:17:16 -0700
From: Jeannie Ecklund <gersknightlady@y.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
Thank you. Is it a new show now playing or in reruns
someplace?
Jeannie
--- Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......> wrote:
> Blood Ties as a series is based on the books written
> by Tanya Huff, an Ontario native (which is why the
> show is mostly based in Toronto, although it is shot
> mostly on location in Vancouver.) A couple of years
> ago at the conference I attend annually, one of the
> Tor editors was discussing the fact that when you
> have
> something that has a dedicated fan base (in this
> case
> she was talking about BSG fanfic) she said a lot of
> times the fan fiction is as good as, if not better,
> than some of the original writers'. Ahem. I think we
> have enough fan fiction that if FK ever DOES get
> resurrected, we have enough fodder for at least, oh,
> a gazillion seasons :)
> --- Sherri Horun <sherrihorun@y.......> wrote:
>
> > It's on Sunday Nights, 9 PM on Lifetime.
> > http://www.lifetimetv.com/shows/bloodties/
> >
> > SherriLynn
> >
> > Jeannie Ecklund <gersknightlady@y.......> wrote:
> > What is this show your talking about? I think I
> > have
> > a DVD movie by that name but have never watched it.
> >
> > Jeannie
> >
>
> Kristen Fife, Author
> http://writersweekend.com - Spend a Passionate
> Weekend With Your Muse
>
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:56:43 -0400
From: Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: Please watch the quote limits
We've had several cases in the past day or so where the whole previous post was
quoted in the reply onlist. I think some of them were really meant to go
offlist, but just in case, I'm reminding everybody of the four-line quote limit.
Thanks!
McLisa,
listowner/enforcer :), Forkni-l
mclisa@m.......
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:02:10 -0400
From: Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: LC and Getting N*ked
I think it's in the first ep of the third season, but I haven't watched that
one since it first ran. It's where we find out thatonly has LC got the Raven
after Janette left.
Chicago Mel asked:
> LC <snips> an line about getting in touch with oneself by getting naked.
>
>Where was that? *is surprised*
BTW, I haven't developed a crippling case of prudery. The asterixes are in case
anyone is afflicted with net nanny software that takes offense easily. I have a
friend whose site has one.
McLisa
mclisa@m.......
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:10:25 -0400
From: Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties/ More INFO about Blood Ties
Jeannie,
A NEW SHOW
(NOT meaning to repeat all the past posts!)
Most of these questions have been answered here on the list, but perhaps a
few members aren't receiving all the posts. I've had that problem in the
past. Anyway, here again is the info.
***A private investigator, Vicki Nelson, joins forces with a 450 year old
vampire, Henry, to solve supernatural crimes. Sparks fly between Vicky and
Henry, and Vicki is torn between Henry (the vampire) and her former cop
partner and lover, Mike (a mortal). The series is based on Tanya Huff's
Blood book novels. The show is set in Toronto and has detectives solving
crimes just like Forever Knight.
Blood Ties aired in a two hour movie this past Sunday night on Lifetime T.V.
The movie can now be downloaded at I-Tunes; part I is free, part II is now
available for $1.99. The show will on Lifetime T.V. every Sunday at 10 P.M.
(Eastern Time).
Lifetime's Web Page on Blood Ties:
http://www.lifetimetv.com/shows/bloodties/
Bloodlines: a fan site for the series Blood Ties:
http://www.bloodties-bloodlines.com/articles.html
This site is really worth checking out, and seems to be the main fan site.
Bloodlines is very similar to Kristen's FK Site, minus the musical videos.
***Extra info: Blood Ties is a Canadian television series based on the Blood
Books by Tanya Huff. It premiered on March 11, 2007 on Lifetime Television,
and is set to premiere on Fall of 2007 on Canadian television. It has also
been bought by UK channel Living and is set to start there before it's
airing in Canada.
Deborah
DeborahAHymon.com
on 3/14/07 12:17 PM, Jeannie Ecklund at gersknightlady@y....... wrote:
> Thank you. Is it a new show now playing or in reruns
> someplace?
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:52:27 -0700
From: Bast Ankhsenet <bast_ankhsenet@y.......>
Subject: Re: Blood Ties
It's been a long time since
Coming out of lurk mode for a little bit, It's been a long time since
I've read the books but it seemed to be fairly close to the book, but then,
like I said it's been a long time. I might be misremembering things from some
of the other books and mushing them together. I know that in the books Henry
was a romance novelist and not a graphic artist. I always thought that was so
amusing. Though I can see how a graphic/comic book artist would translate
better now a days. Henry was always one of my favorite characters in the
books and I like the actor they got to play him.
OK I'm off to find more coffee. (I don't normally mind working 'vampire'
hours, as my mom puts it, but by the time I get used to working till 3am again
I'll be moving.) ~Bast
> For those of you who have
> read Tanya Huff's books, how did the pilot compare to the written novel in
> terms of faithfully rendering the character from page to screen?
> :) Boomer
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