FORKNI-L
Digest - 28 Feb 2007 to 1 Mar 2007 (#2007-52)
Thu, 1 Mar 2007
There are 7 messages totalling 221 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Overheard at Richard III
2. This *so* reminded me of FK
3. Janette wannabe? (4)
4. Today's Birthday: March 1
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:02:05 -0500
From: Jean Graham <jeang477@a.......>
Subject: Overheard at Richard III
Despite 30-degree temperatures (and concomitant snow and ice) in Washington
DC, there were no empty seats in the Lansburgh Shakespeare Theatre last Friday
night when I saw Geraint Wyn Davies in "Richard III." I don't have a review to
add to those already posted (other than to say that it was excellent), but I did
overhear a comment from a young member of a first-year college tour group that I
thought summed it up rather well:
"The guy they have playing Richard," she said with giddy enthusiasm, "is really,
*really* good!" Well, I could hardly disagree with her there. During the same
break, she also wondered aloud to her companions as to whether the children
playing the little princes might be GWD's actual kids. "Yeah, I know he's playing
a guy who wants to kill them and all," she said, "but when he hugs them, you can
just tell that he really likes kids."
Are college students getting more perceptive these days, or what?
Jean Graham, back home and warm again in San Diego CA (!)
(http://members.aol.com/jeanb7)
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:09:48 -0800
From: Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......>
Subject: This *so* reminded me of FK
I saw this tshirt and had to order it. I might even
have something put on it like "I don't burn, I
implode". :)
http://www.threadless.com/product/70/Burn
Kristen Fife, Author
http://writersweekend.com - Spend a Passionate Weekend With Your Muse
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:11:59 +1100
From: Alexander Braun <ajbraun@i.......>
Subject: Re: Janette wannabe?
I think Bianca is brasher than Janette maybe Bianca hasn't the years
that Janette had and remember Janette had a great teacher looks like
Bianca didn't have some one like LaCroix to give her the elegance like
Janette has.
> I finally caught this episode after Tivo'ing it. Bianca didn't even
> come
> close to Janette. I thought she lacked Janette's grace, class and
> elegance.
> Janette had an innate elegance. Bianca reminded me of a street
> urchin dressed up in
> fancy clothes. Someone playing at elegance.
-- AIM Taliesyn55 -- ICQ 12610993 - MSN Taliesyn55 --
"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I
thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?
So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness
of the universe". Marcus, B5
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:52:10 -0800
From: Kristen Fife <landinnd@y.......>
Subject: Re: Janette wannabe?
Keeping in mind that an actor's character is only as good as the writer; that
Janette was rather stiff in earliest episodes and matured throughout the series
as a *recurring* regular cast member, I agree that Bianca is the first vampire
I have seen on TV that *approaches* Deb as Janette. (Note I put "wannabe" in
the original subject line, not "competition".)
Gaelin Wade <GaelinWade@a.......> wrote: I finally caught this episode after
Tivo'ing it. Bianca didn't even come
close to Janette. I thought she lacked Janette's grace, class and elegance.
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:26:33 EST
From: Gaelin Wade <GaelinWade@a.......>
Subject: Re: Janette wannabe?
In a message dated 2/28/2007 10:40:13 PM Central Standard Time, >
>
> Keeping in mind that an actor's character is only as good as the writer;
> that Janette was rather stiff in earliest episodes and matured throughout the
> series
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I didn't find anything particularly wrong with the way the character was
written. I thought the character fit the tone of the way The Dresden Files is
written in general. As someone wrote, Bianca is "brash". It gave her a "bad
girl" appeal. That makes her a good match for Harry Dresden, as he is brash. But
where Bianca is "brash," Janette, I think, is more "sensual" and "seductive."
But then "sensual" and "seductive" was probably the point of Janette's
character. She was representative of the "seductiveness" of the "dark side" Nick
was trying escape from. I don't especially recall Janette as being "stiff" in the
early episodes, but perhaps she was. Still, I think the tone of the character
was always subtle as LaCroix was the dynamic one in Nick's life.
Stacy Haiduk as Lillie Langtry in Kindred the Embraced and/or Melinda Clarke
as (the human) Lady Heather in CSI have more of the same vibe as Janette than
Bianca did for me.
Compartively, the "Bad Blood" episode of the Dresden Files wasn't about being
a vampire, so there was no need for the writers to show Bianca as "seductive"
in the same sense. Attractive, yet dangerous for Dresden and capable of
running a criminal enterprise and being ruthless, yes. Here "brash" was
probably more appropriate than seductive.
I agree with you, it is in the way the character is written. I just felt that
Janette and Bianca are written in two different tones. Was one better a
better representation than the other? Not really. As both served their respective
purposes well in their respective series. I don't see Bianca as confidante to
someone like Nick or obedient "daughter" to a LaCroix. On the other hand,
Janette wouldn't make a plausible illicit drug runner, deserving the wrath of a
body like the High Council.
Gaelin
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:09:06 -0600
From: eowyn23@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday: March 1
Hi Y'all!
Today is National Pig Day and Peanut Butter Lover's Day and the Birthday
of:
Tricia (mere de Vachon) meredevachon@g.......
You may send birthday greetings to Tricia at the above email address.
Please NOT to the list!
Others who share this birthday:
Catherine Bach, TV/Movie Actress
Robert Conrad, Actor
George Eads, Actor
Frederic Francois Chopin, Composer
Donald "Deke" Slayton, Astronaut
Significant events on this date:
1781, the Articles of Confederation were adopted by the Continental
Congress.
1845, President Tyler signed a congressional resolution to annex the
Republic of Texas.
1961, Barbie gets a boyfriend! Mattel introduces the Ken doll.
1962, The 1st K-Mart store opened.
I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Tricia!
If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed) and email address to me,
eowyn23@j......., privately, and I'll be glad to add you.
Terri
eowyn23@j.......
GWDFC, FK X-Stitcher, Proud Survivor of FK Fic Wars 8-12, Texas Knight
Dreamers, Knighties List Owner, Keeper of the FK Birthday List
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 04:49:21 -0800
From: Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......>
Subject: Re: Janette wannabe?
As both a writer and an actor, I can say that is not necessarily always true. A
bad actor is not going to make a well written character look good. The best
dialogue can become utterly lifeless if delivered that way. However, I have seen
situations where a good actor gives some light to a badly written character
although that doesn't always happen.
Recurring characters do often blossom due to character development by both
the writer and the actor.
I only saw the very last few minutes of this episode of the Dresden Files so
can't really compare Bianca to Janette. However, I did recognize her from the
first Dresden Files book (unless I'm confusing female vampires). There's
similarities, but I personally don't see them as being "very" similar characters. They
are, however, both strong female vampires.
--Libby
Kristen Fife <landinnd@y.......> wrote:
Keeping in mind that an actor's character is only as good as the writer;
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