There are 6 messages totalling 179 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. FK Moment~ Sort of 2. REMINDER! 3. Reformation/Criminal rehabilitation (3) 4. Fingerprints and DNA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:38:18 GMT From: KC Smith <tigrlady2u@j.......> Subject: FK Moment~ Sort of I found a really nicely done copy of 'Twas the Night Before Christmas' that has lots of little goodies inside. On the first page is Santa's 'naughty/nice list' and towards the bottom it says "Natalie, Toronto- Nice: Practiced her dancing lessons". I had a vision of a young Natalie twirling around in a little pink tutu. KC Smith tigrlady2u@j....... Nick/Natpacker with dark tendencies. "I've never met a chocolate I didn't like." http://kc.descentintodarkness.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:42:52 GMT From: KC Smith <tigrlady2u@j.......> Subject: REMINDER! I'm busy with work, so I won't get to be online much for awhile, but I thought I'd take time to send this reminder. Hope you all are having a great time shopping! It's getting closer to Christmas, which means that it's getting closer to the deadline for our DarkNN Yuletide awards contest. I hope lots of you are writing away! Good luck! KC Smith tigrlady2u@j....... Nick/Natpacker with dark tendencies. "I've never met a chocolate I didn't like." http://kc.descentintodarkness.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:27:26 -0500 From: Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......> Subject: Re: Reformation/Criminal rehabilitation I would think a vampire's dna would be hard to get, if the person taking it or looking at it didn't know he was trying to extract a vampire's dna. Expose it to sunlight or even the wrong kind of light and poof it's gone. Fingerprints are another matter. But once again I think it would depend on where you're taking them from. A bloody finger print yes. But would a vampire necessarily leave a fingerprint on a glass. They have a colder body temperature so there wouldn't necessarily have to be any condensation or reaction going on between their body temperature and the temperature of the glass. Do they even perspire enough to leave fingerprints. Debbie. >From: gwatson2 <gwatson2@r.......> If DNA from an old crime scene--maybe some twenty years ago--is >processed today, it could match up with another case from another >place/date. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:58:05 -0500 From: gwatson2 <gwatson2@r.......> Subject: Re: Reformation/Criminal rehabilitation McLisa writes: > what if Nick discovers one day while watching the news, that > a man is about to be executed for a murder which he knows > one of the vampires committed? Well, I used something like this scenario in one of my own stories for FK4. The accused isn't facing execution (since we don't, after all, have capital punishment in Canada); but she is about to go on trial for first-degree murder, and hence facing life in prison. As you say, Nick is decidedly concerned about a human being punished for a vampire kill; but what can he do? If you're curious, it's "Cover Story" (FK421) at: http://ca.geocities.com/gwatson2@rogers.com/episodeguide.htm > I suspect a DNA match would be empirical evidence and therefore not a > simple case of calling in the Enforcers. I'm sure you're right about its being empirical evidence; but surely that's precisely when the Enforcers *do* get called in. If there's empirical evidence, the vampire involved can't hypnotize it away, so--isn't that when more stringent methods are needed? Enforcer type methods? > Also, police officers' prints have to be on file for purpose of > elimination. I see a whole warren of plot bunnies! Greer gwatson2@r....... http://ca.geocities.com/gwatson2@rogers.com/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:25:27 -0500 From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......> Subject: Re: Reformation/Criminal rehabilitation >police officers' prints have to be on file for purpose of elimination. > That should put Nick's in whatever online system his force is linked into. There would be a set of fingerprints listed as Nick's somewhere with the police force. Whether they would really be his or the fingerprints of a whammed fingerprint technician is a different matter..... Tim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:12:04 -0600 From: "Orel, Sara" <orel@t.......> Subject: Fingerprints and DNA okay -- it has been quite a while since I played, but I still lurk and enjoy these discussions... Do vampires excrete enough oil that they would leave good fingerprints? I assume they have them, as their body is what it was when they died (or better, as they show the ability to mend ante-mortem damage after death), but short of putting ink on the hands I can see it being difficult to have them leave fingerprints. Maybe Nick every once in a while gets the oil from his gun on his hands to leave enough fingerprints that people don't get horrendously suspicious. The other thing I was wondering about was decay in DNA. Do the cells in a vampire's body actually reproduce as they did when the vamp was alive? So is the DNA subject to any sort of variation? Or has the vampirism changed the actual DNA itself? Would vamp saliva have it? Would they leave hair? Does vamp hair grow in this universe? Sara (suddenly realized I can sign my own name here, whereas other blogs I use an alias -- I have a name!) orel@t....... ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 10 Dec 2006 to 11 Dec 2006 (#2006-76) **************************************************************
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