There are 6 messages totalling 380 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Sunrise, sunset (2) 2. PRAYER: Brief-Ish (?????) Update (Surgery, etc.) <--Well, It's Brief-*ER* (3) 3. Today's Birthday: December 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 00:13:44 +0100 From: P J <blue_twingo772@y.......> Subject: Re: Sunrise, sunset Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:26:07 -0800 From: Megan Hull mistrydder@y....... wrote: >What if a vampire (FK-type, of course) lived in the bottom of the Grand Canyon? One can see the blue sky for much longer than one can see the sun, so which is sunrise? When the sky turns blue, or when the sun comes into view? Would the Grand Canyon be the ideal place for vampires? < I agree with what's already been said that it's the direct sunlight that's deadly. In "Hunted" we see Nick emerging from the underground and stay a while in the shadows with daylight all around him. So, the bottom of the Grand Canyon would accordingly be a place to spend the day without imploding. Of course the downside is: Not much food down there, except for the occasional tourist. ;) Petra. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:08:38 EST From: Billie Lee Williams <McCelt2003@a.......> Subject: PRAYER: Brief-Ish (?????) Update (Surgery, etc.) <--Well, It's Brief-*ER* Hi, All... Once again {{{{{{{{{Thank you and God Bless You}}}}}}} to all for your prayers, emails, thoughts, hugs and just absolutely everything. Likely as not, I won't be able to write another of these :::::::BL manages a mini grin while everyone goes **yay**:::::::::: (haha) Well, I hope this is a short(er) one! Humblest apologies, as I *know* for sure several people are going to get this more than once. With the difficulty typing, it is easier for me to take once of my old ones and do a "reply all" thing. At least I am remembering to Blind CC now ! This is a cut + past + edit again from what I just wrote to my family. And, my gosh, starting tomorrow (Friday), I have an appointment of SOME kind either for the Social Security folks or related to the Surgery (except on weekends), *every single day,* and, well, who knows when I'll be able to type real well again--WOW, I can hardly believe tomorrow is December 1st; there is no way I am going to be able to do any Christmas cards, or stuff like that, now. Sorry :( Anyhow, leaving all politics aside (minor haha, there--bit of a paperwork mess [erg]--somehow I have to find the energy to stay on top of it, though....) my "Frozen Shoulder" surgery got moved up closer: to a week from today (December 7th), and daily Physical Therapy is supposed to start the day *after,* though I see My Doc (surgeon) that day (after) as well. I honest to goodness do NOT know when I *don't* have an appt. Well, that's not true. No appt. *Monday;* and I imagine I'll get Christmas DAY off, plus Workman's Comp. only auth. 12 therapy sessions so far---oops rambling (pain medication, sorry). I had to make a whole page/list of all these appointments last night--to try and keep them in order: gee whiz! Also made the grievous error of letting someone I know "share her experience" with this very same procedure plus surgery (the awake + then asleep part, ewwwwwww and owwwwwwwww)........AAACCCCKKKKKK ; makes me *really* want to call the whole thing off, golly! Oh, and it is Outpatient (or, that is the plan); hooray--I get a rash every time I have to sleep on hospital linens . I don't remember if I said that before? Anyhow, I thought I would give an update, since I am able to type a little bit just now; arm is wearing out already, though. The "paperwork" thing is that Social Security is awaiting a FAX that my Surgeon's assistant *swears* she has sent (twice) that details the gravity of all this. My SSDI Analyst lady had to fax to the Doc's office twice for the assistant to get the Request For Supplemental Information. Guess what: no FAX received by analyst, who really seems to be trying to help me. I am afraid if I lean too hard on the Doc __or__ the assistant, no paperwork will go anywhere, PLUS my "dictation" from my last 3 appts. "still isn't back." Translation: Doctor didn't do it yet. This is my big issue with him. He is *fabulous* about everything else. The paperwork thing? Drives me nuts! ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!! (, sorry, venting>) Esp. when "yes or no" re: an SSDI claim is most likely hanging in the balance based on his words. And, I cannot get *anyone* at Social Security (so far), including my own Case Worker (different department) to talk to me about reapplying for *SSI* 3 days and counting (to zero income. All I can do at this point is pray. And that's the stuff I did not write to my family; they don't want to hear about it (long story). And I padded it a some. I just read it. Hmm, I hope it makes more sense to others than it does to me . Needless to say, I am a completely and utter nervous wreck, and I am very, very frightened on many levels. I am trying very hard to hang on. Disney Movies help. As did the flowers my son left at my door the other day. As does talking to Some Very Special . On days like today--a hammer to the head to knock me out for a bit might be the best thing! Much Love, Many Hugs & Continued Thanks to ALL of You!! And Early Happy Holidays Love, Hugs and Prayers Billie-Lee (who will continue to welcome all prayers, thoughts, etc., yes!) "Oh, Divine Master grant that I may never seek, not so much to be consoled as to console, not so much to be understood as to understand, to be loved as to love with all my heart. Amen." Saint Francis; "Jesus take the wheel, take it from my hands, 'cause I can't do this all on my own" (Carrie Underwood) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:53:27 -0800 From: Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......> Subject: Re: PRAYER: Brief-Ish (?????) Update (Surgery, etc.) <--Well, It's Brief-*ER* Hugs and prayers! --- Billie Lee Williams <McCelt2003@a.......> wrote: > Hi, All... > > Once again {{{{{{{{{Thank you and God Bless > You}}}}}}} to all for your > prayers, emails, thoughts, hugs and just absolutely > everything. Likely as not, I > won't be able to write another of these :::::::BL > manages a mini grin while > everyone goes **yay**:::::::::: (haha) > > Well, I hope this is a short(er) one! Humblest > apologies, as I *know* for > sure several people are going to get this more than > once. With the difficulty > typing, it is easier for me to take once of my old > ones and do a "reply all" > thing. At least I am remembering to Blind CC now > ! This is a cut + > past + edit again from what I just wrote to my > family. > > And, my gosh, starting tomorrow (Friday), I have an > appointment of SOME kind > either for the Social Security folks or related to > the Surgery (except on > weekends), *every single day,* and, well, who knows > when I'll be able to type real > well again--WOW, I can hardly believe tomorrow is > December 1st; there is no > way I am going to be able to do any Christmas cards, > or stuff like that, now. > Sorry :( > > Anyhow, leaving all politics aside (minor haha, > there--bit of a paperwork > mess [erg]--somehow I have to find the energy to > stay on top of it, though....) > my "Frozen Shoulder" surgery got moved up closer: to > a week from today > (December 7th), and daily Physical Therapy is > supposed to start the day *after,* > though I see My Doc (surgeon) that day (after) as > well. I honest to goodness do > NOT know when I *don't* have an appt. Well, that's > not true. No appt. > *Monday;* and I imagine I'll get Christmas DAY off, > plus Workman's Comp. only auth. > 12 therapy sessions so far---oops rambling (pain > medication, sorry). > > I had to make a whole page/list of all these > appointments last night--to try > and keep them in order: gee whiz! Also made the > grievous error of letting > someone I know "share her experience" with this very > same procedure plus surgery > (the awake + then asleep part, ewwwwwww and > owwwwwwwww)........AAACCCCKKKKKK > ; makes me *really* want to call the whole > thing off, golly! > > Oh, and it is Outpatient (or, that is the plan); > hooray--I get a rash every > time I have to sleep on hospital linens . I > don't remember if I said that > before? > > Anyhow, I thought I would give an update, since I am > able to type a little > bit just now; arm is wearing out already, though. > > The "paperwork" thing is that Social Security is > awaiting a FAX that my > Surgeon's assistant *swears* she has sent (twice) > that details the gravity of all > this. My SSDI Analyst lady had to fax to the Doc's > office twice for the > assistant to get the Request For Supplemental > Information. Guess what: no FAX > received by analyst, who really seems to be trying > to help me. I am afraid if I > lean too hard on the Doc __or__ the assistant, no > paperwork will go anywhere, > PLUS my "dictation" from my last 3 appts. "still > isn't back." Translation: > Doctor didn't do it yet. This is my big issue with > him. He is *fabulous* about > everything else. The paperwork thing? Drives me > nuts! ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!! > (, sorry, venting>) Esp. when "yes or no" re: > an SSDI claim is most likely > hanging in the balance based on his words. > > And, I cannot get *anyone* at Social Security (so > far), including my own Case > Worker (different department) to talk to me about > reapplying for *SSI* 3 > days and counting (to zero income. > > All I can do at this point is pray. And that's the > stuff I did not write to > my family; they don't want to hear about it (long > story). And I padded it a > some. I just read it. Hmm, I hope it makes more > sense to others than it does > to me . > > Needless to say, I am a completely and utter nervous > wreck, and I am very, > very frightened on many levels. I am trying very > hard to hang on. Disney > Movies help. As did the flowers my son left at my > door the other day. As does > talking to Some Very Special . > > On days like today--a hammer to the head to knock me > out for a bit might be > the best thing! > > Much Love, Many Hugs & Continued Thanks to ALL of > You!! > > And Early Happy Holidays > > Love, Hugs and Prayers > Billie-Lee (who will continue to welcome all > prayers, thoughts, etc., yes!) > > "Oh, Divine Master grant that I may never seek, not > so much to be consoled as > to console, not so much to be understood as to > understand, to be loved as to > love with all my heart. Amen." Saint Francis; > "Jesus take the wheel, take it > from my hands, 'cause I can't do this all on my own" > (Carrie Underwood) > Kristen Fife, Author http://writersweekend.com - Spend a Passionate Weekend With Your Muse http://scarletmuse.com -An Erotic Writer's Conference ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:26:02 -0700 From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......> Subject: Re: Sunrise, sunset Here are some notes from the lady married to the celestial navigation expert (but without his input): There are three different times which may be used in sunrise/sunset tables. Mostly, people will see the time of "civil twilight" listed. Civil twilight is when, in good weather, you can clearly distinguish terrestrial objects (or no longer can clearly distinguish them, in the case of sunset!). Or, I suppose, when you can distinguish a white thread from a black thread. "Nautical twilight" is when, in looking at the horizon, you can no longer see the difference between sea (or land) and sky--because they're all equally black! And "astronomical twilight" is when the sun is so far below the horizon that it doesn't contribute at all to lighting the sky. There is a mathematical definition for each of these: civil twilight occurs when the sun is 6 degrees below the horizon, nautical twilight has the sun 12 degrees below the horizon, and astronomical twilight is when the sun is 18 degrees below the horizon. Since the earth rotates 15 degrees in an hour (360 degrees divided by 24 hours), you can see that at the time of civil twilight, Nick, Janette, Lacroix et. al. still have (roughly) 24 minutes to find shelter before exposure to direct sunlight is actually possible (due to the sun being on the horizon. IIRC, this varies somewhat depending on your latitude and the time of year. So, does that clear everything up? :-D Your humble & obedient servant, Angela Gottfred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 06:08:40 -0600 From: eowyn23@j....... Subject: Today's Birthday: December 1 Hi Y'all! Today is National Pie Day and Eat A Red Apple Day and the birthday of: Lucie lnicolau@p....... You may send birthday greetings to Lucie at the above email address. Please NOT to the list! Others who share this birthday: Woody Allen, Movie Producer/Director Bette Midler, TV/Movie/Stage Actress Mary Martin, Movie/Stage Actress Minoru Yamasaki, Architect Madame Tussaud, Creator of waxwork mannequins Significant events on this date: 1843, the first chartered mutual life insurance company opened for business. 1917, Father Edward Flanagan opened Boys Town. 1929, the game of Bingo was invented by Edwin S. Lowe. 1955, Rosa Parks, a black seamstress, refused to give up her seat to a white man aboard a Montgomery, Ala., city bus. I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Lucie! If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send your name, birthdate (no year needed) and email address to me, eowyn23@j......., privately, and I'll be glad to add you. Terri eowyn23@j....... GWDFC, FK X-Stitcher, Proud Survivor of FK Fic Wars 8-12, Texas Knight Dreamers, Knighties List Owner, Keeper of the FK Birthday List ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 06:40:55 -0500 From: Cheryl <fknight420@c.......> Subject: Re: PRAYER: Brief-Ish (?????) Update (Surgery, etc.) <--Well, It's Brief-*ER* You are kindly welcome. The prayers and thoughts will NEVER stop. Keep us posted and its great to see a little light in the tunnel; my daughter is on SSI; since she was 2; she's 13 now. Stay safe and we're always here. Cheryl / fknight420@c....... 'Angus Grady; The Beginning--available in bookstores nationwide. Don't trade a treasure for an empty box. ForeverKnight.5u.com AngusGrady.50megs.com BradleyFarley.50megs.com ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 30 Nov 2006 to 1 Dec 2006 (#2006-67) *************************************************************
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