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Digest - 3 Jul 2006 (#2006-181)

Mon, 3 Jul 2006

There are 4 messages totalling 153 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 (3)
  2. Nick and Nat (was RE: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2)

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Date:    Mon, 3 Jul 2006 08:16:59 -0700
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2

--- Luicia <luicia1705@y.......> wrote:
> I also get the impression that this was the first time
> Nick has reacted to a woman around Natalie. Did any
> one else get that feeling

I got that impression too.  She told him to persue it because that is
what a 'friend' is supposed to do.  I don't think she actually
expected him to do it.
Then Nick being the 'brick' that he is, discusses it with her like
nothing is weird about it.

-Amanda

"What princes of the moon we'd be, Two blazing beacons in the dark
Desire drives me to take him now, No force on earth will ever tear him from my
heart."
http://www.darksideoftheglass.com


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Date:    Mon, 3 Jul 2006 10:29:51 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2

That's an interesting take on it, not one I'd thought of before.  It's entirely
possible, and with better visual effects/background music, that may have been
the conclusion more people would have drawn.  But it's hard to bring out such
'unseen' information without proper effects... and, well, we all know what kind
of a budget FK got....

                                 -Megan

P J <blue_twingo772@y.......> wrote:
  In conclusion, this is in fact one of my favorite scenes because in my
opinion it shows a darker Nick, which I like very much.


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."


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Date:    Mon, 3 Jul 2006 16:28:13 -0400
From:    Mary Combs <combsm@e.......>
Subject: Nick and Nat (was RE: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2)

> Kristen wrote:
Did anyone else think the tension in these first eps
between Nick and Natalie was rather stilted?

(I've looked through posts to try to make sure no one else has pointed this
out yet... If I missed one, apologies...)

Unfortunately, the version of Dark Knight on the DVD cuts a relatively long
scene that gives us a much better idea of their relationship, which at this
point is pretty close and affectionate (brother/sisterish). It's at the end
of the last cut to the scene where she confronts him at the loft. The
official DVD cuts away after Nick says "Lock up when you leave."

.. Nick stands to put the cup away.
Nat: What about the street people?
Nick turns and kneels or hunkers down behind her, leaning against her with
his head against hers and his left arm casually around her. Not a big hug,
but very intimate. Nat's reaction--or rather lack of reaction--shows this is
a perfectly ordinary thing for him to do.

Nat: I mean he killed the guard at the museum to get the cup, the Indians to
halt the dig--but that still doesn't explain why he would be killing these
homeless people.

Nick: (still leaning his cheek against her head, looking off and
remembering) They were always our prey. I mean, nobody cares about them,
nobody notices when they're gone. Never bothered LaCroix. Only me. (He turns
his head into her hair as if he were whispering into her ear). This is his
way of getting back at me. This is his way of calling me out, Nat."

There's a beat of silence and then he kisses her on the temple, stands up,
touching her shoulder as he goes off to bed.

The whole scene is a good demonstration of the way Ger and Catherine
advanced the idea of the characters being in love with each other just by
the way they played it. And there's a nice echo in the more light-hearted
hug-from-behind he gives her at the end of DK II in the museum.

The expression on Nat's face when he kisses her (she closes her eyes
briefly) is an instant tip-off to the viewer that "there's more here than
just friendship."

And, of course this scene also gives a lot more weight to Nick's conviction
that LaCroix is murdering the homeless people, making its absence even more
lamentable.

I also regret the missing scene where Nick invites Topper and Jeannie (sp?)
to come sleep in his garage and gives then a bag of burgers for their
dinner.

Sigh. If I thought Sony would pay attention, I'd say we should try to get
them to put a "Compleat Dark Knight I & II) (archaic spelling intended) in
the Third Season set.

Mary

Mary Combs N&Npack



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Date:    Mon, 3 Jul 2006 16:52:39 -0400
From:    Mary Combs <combsm@e.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2

Tim asked:

> 3) anyone got a guess as to how LaCroix knew that the jade
> goblet was at the museum???  I believe there is a line that
> says that the exhibit hadn't opened yet.

I think LaCroix keeps tabs, through a network of paid, threatened or
whammied sources <gr> on anything and everything of interest to him, and
nothing is of greater interest than an object that might come to Nick's
attention as a possible cure. I suspect he knew when the dig was reopened,
and when the cup was found.

Mary

Mary Combs N&Npack



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