FORKNI-L
Digest - 16 Jun 2006 to 17 Jun 2006 (#2006-165)
Sat, 17 Jun 2006
There are 8 messages totalling 248 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. If FK had a bigger budget (3)
2. UPDATE: OT: looking for crash space
3. some thoughts on hypnosis
4. Any news in the US on the Horror Channel?
5. Reminder - Dark Knight discussion June 30
6. Ger's citizenship
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:37:20 -0700
From: Allison Lahikainen <smilewithviolets@y......>
Subject: If FK had a bigger budget
I agree with having a story arc. And if it were produced in this day and age we
could have the face licking version on LOGO. ; )
Allison
unnamed cousin
smilewithviolets@y......
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:44:36 -0700
From: Sherri Horun <sherrihorun@y......>
Subject: Re: UPDATE: OT: looking for crash space
Will be thinking of your friend and hoping for the best.
SherriLynn
Mildred Cady <mildred.cady@g.......> wrote:
Ok... some good news... they just found a liver for my friend and she's
going into surgery now... we'll know more in 8-10 hours.
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 02:50:14 EDT
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: some thoughts on hypnosis
In a message dated 6/16/2006 3:15:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
viv11374@y...... writes:
Last night I went to a lecture on hypnosis and
biofeedback, and I had a few thoughts from what I
learned that I'd like to share.
-Levels of susceptibility to hypnosis are inborn and
largely genetic, but there's nobody that *absolutely*
*can't* be hypnotized.
You forgot to mention that hypnosis in not what you see on TV. You won't do
anything you really don't want to do while under. It's a extreme state of
relaxation. You can hear things around you. Your NOT asleep. And yes...it's
a great form of relaxation. I use it when I go to the doctor to help lower
my blood pressure. LaCroix wouldn't like that. And when I go to the
dentist. It really helps. I've been doing it since 1975.
However, if Nick were to 'hypnotize' me....I wouldn't have any trouble at
all doing what he wants me to do. We all know he has good intentions.
KnightWitch ;-]=
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:39:33 -0400
From: gwatson2 <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: If FK had a bigger budget
tracy gooding wrote:
> So, if you had had the budget of one of the big,
> glossy TV series, what
> would you have changed
1. In terms of increasing the audience (especially making it more
attractive for casual or new viewers to tune in to), the single biggest
thing to change would simply have to be the *time*. For me, when FK was on
CTV, the hour was reasonable, i.e. prime time. But the operative phrase
there is "when it was on" CTV, which it mostly wasn't, since they kept
cancelling it. Like most people I wound up watching it in the wee hours.
On a Buffalo station. And wasn't that a fine thing--for a show that is set
in Toronto not to be available on any of the local stations!
Unfortunately, scheduling is *not* a budget issue. The schedule is done
by the network and/or the local station. Once FK became a syndicated show,
it was totally up to the local station when they put it on; and, if they
were an affiliate of one of the networks (which most are), that pretty well
meant that the show would be on *out* of prime time. Hence the uncivilized
hours we complain about.
2 Of course, I'm with Karen on consistency: it would have been lovely not
to have the gaffes. But didn't they go on record as saying that they didn't
think inconsistency mattered as long as it worked in the individual story?
It's the sort of thing that marks a kind of old-time TV mentality about
the production--the notion that, since the shows are only seen once (and, if
syndicated in re-runs, are seen out of order), then no one will notice or
care.
If they'd had more money, it doesn't mean they'd have spent it as we'd
have liked them to.
3. One thing they might *actually* have done is spend a bit more on things
like extras and bit parts. More people around in the historical scenes, for
example: think of "Be My Valentine": nary a servant in sight! Whoever
heard of a medieval castle without retainers? When Nick (apparently)
returned unexpectedly from the Crusades, there should have been a big crowd
scene. There should at least have been someone on guard at the door!
And how many episodes were there in which the captain came into the
interrogation room to pass on a minor message to Nick and his partner? I
mean, you know that in real life it isn't the *captain* who runs errands!
But they did do a lot of the episodes on the ultra-cheap, especially towards
the end of the season.
In fact, how about a regular group of people seen around the police
station in the background? The night shift detectives at their desks: the
same ones each episode, I mean, the way it really would be. (Think of Grace
at the lab.) The odd word of chit-chat going to their desks, or getting
coffee. I know they did a bit of this sort of thing in some of the
episodes, but only *if* it worked into a story line. But I'm talking about
doing it regularly, with recurring bit part actors, so we got to know the
people in the squad room as supporting characters.
Ditto on the staff at the lab in addition to Grace (whom we could have
seen more often). Also, staff at the Raven, besides Miklos.
By doing a lot filming on location they got a fair range of realistic
settings, but fleshing out the cast a bit with minor recurring roles--I'd go
for that as a pretty good way to spend any extra.
However--
4. Top of my list would have to be *promotion*. I'm with Megan. The extra
money would have been best put to use in advertising. There should have
been a lot of promo spots during commercials on TV--not just during genre
series but during cop shows as well. And there was nothing I saw in print
that would reach a general audience, e.g. ads in the TV Guide.
Greer
gwatson2@r.......
http://ca.geocities.com/gwatson2@rogers.com/index.html
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:35:52 -0700
From: Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y......>
Subject: Any news in the US on the Horror Channel?
There was some talk last year about the Horror channel
getting some of the rights to FK? Has anyone heard
whether or not that is happening or has fizzled out?
"The price for this gift is the darkness of the night, and the blood of
humanity to sustain you." -THICKER THAN WATER, Kristen Fife in progress
See my blog at http://spaces.msn.com/members/landinn/
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:30:33 -0700
From: Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y......>
Subject: Reminder - Dark Knight discussion June 30
Just a reminder, we will be starting an episode
discussion on Dark Knight 1 & 2 on June 30. If you are
in the US and don't have the DVD's, you can rent them
from Netflix. Now would also be a good time to share
with friends that haven't been converted to the FK
world :)
"The price for this gift is the darkness of the night, and the blood of
humanity to sustain you." -THICKER THAN WATER, Kristen Fife in progress
See my blog at http://spaces.msn.com/members/landinn/
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:31:29 -0400
From: Mary Combs <combsm@e.......>
Subject: Re: If FK had a bigger budget
Greer wrote a several great comments including:
> Whoever heard of a medieval castle without retainers?
Amen to that! A tad more money spent on research (not the intense scholarly
kind, just the stuff you can turn up in the encyclopedia or at a decent
bookstore) would have paid off, along with resources to get the
people/materials.
For example, Erica's doll always makes me squirm. Even the greatest
suspension of disbelief can't make it much more than one century old, and
she's supposed to have been saving it for three ! A prop version of a period
doll wouldn't have been very hard or time consuming to buy or even make, but
when every penny counts.....
Mary
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:39:51 -0400
From: Mary Combs <combsm@e.......>
Subject: Re: Ger's citizenship
Nancy Kaminski wrote
> I suppose this will make it easier for Ger to get work here in the US.
If so, it certainly explains the choice. I've been a Shakespeare Theatre
subscriber for decades, and it's clear that when Michael Kahn gets hold of
an actor he really likes, he takes steps to bring them back as much as
possible, whether in a leading role, or, as with Ger's current appearance in
Love's Labours Lost, in a gem of a supporting part.
Mary
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