FORKNI-L
Digest - 12 May 2006 to 13 May 2006 (#2006-133)
Sat, 13 May 2006
There are 16 messages totalling 407 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. FK Alumni UNtogether (2)
2. CERK Site - the grade is in!!! (3)
3. FK Alumni
4. Story announcement (FK/House XOVER) (3)
5. Looking for a story (2)
6. great
7. Nick's self hate (4)
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Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 19:39:28 -0400
From: mrkkaye@a.......
Subject: FK Alumni UNtogether
It was wonderful seeing Ger and Ben at the Shakespeare Theatre's 'Meet the
Cast' Unfortunately it was announced this week that Ben will be stepping down and
Hank Stratton will be playing Berowne.
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Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:28:30 -0700
From: Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y......>
Subject: CERK Site - the grade is in!!!
Woo Hoo!!!! I got a 100 on my final project!!!!!!
Thank you guys so much for all the help. I am in the midst of
reworking my own site, so although I plan to spiff up the CERK site
to make it a little more 'fan friendly' instead of 'good for class',
I can put it up as is so people can check it out.
Amazingly, the store page is a little tempremental (doesn't always
send the stuff to me) but, hey....
Let me know what you guys think of the 'as is' idea. Hopefully, by
the end of the weekend I can put it up, then when I get the chance I
can tweak it.
-Amanda
"What princes of the moon we'd be, Two blazing beacons in the dark
Desire drives me to take him now, No force on earth will ever tear him from my
heart."
http://www.darksideoftheglass.com
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Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 21:41:08 -0400
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stequina@i.......>
Subject: Re: CERK Site - the grade is in!!!
That's fantastic! Great to hear that. I'm glad that "Uncle" didn't
scare your prof off! <gr>
Amanda Berendt wrote:
>Woo Hoo!!!! I got a 100 on my final project!!!!!!
>
Steph
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Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:37:20 -0700
From: Shanel <pinkusfloydus@y......>
Subject: FK Alumni
Hi all. Can't say that I'm new here cause I mostly lurk but this would be my
first time posting. Anywhoo, I know that most of you know that Ger played in a
movie called Cube 2 along with Kari Matchett (Alyssa). But did you know that
Sandi Ross (Grace) had a cameo in Cube Zero and Andrew Miller (Andrew: STF) and
Maurice Dean Wint (Frank: Francesca) were in Cube? I'm sure there might have
been others too. If any of you haven't seen these movies, they are low budget
but pretty good.
Have a great Knight!
Shanel
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Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 19:46:53 -0700
From: NAT <nat1228@c.......>
Subject: Story announcement (FK/House XOVER)
Announcing a brand new FK/House, M.D. crossover story by a well-known
Nick&Nat writer, writing under a new pseudonym (A.S. Nightbird). Come
along and enjoy the ride as Gregory House ponders how to cure the
ultimate disease: vampirism. Rated R for mature situations.
Just go to my fiction page and click on "Non-Series Stories" to find
"The Things That One Tames" by A.S. Nightbird. Enjoy, and don't
forget to send feedback to the author.
http://home.comcast.net/~nat1228/fkfanfic.htm
Nat
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Nancy A. Taylor -- nat1228@c.......
http://home.comcast.net/~nat1228/fkfanfic.htm
"I am a part of all I have read." -- John Kieran
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Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 19:51:30 -0700
From: fkforever <fkforever@y......>
Subject: Re: CERK Site - the grade is in!!!
Woo Hoo!!!! I got a 100 on my final project!!!!!!
Congrads!!!!!
Desiree
www.knighties.50megs.com
www.suncoastbible.org
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Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 19:54:19 -0700
From: Ith <ithildin@o.......>
Subject: Re: Story announcement (FK/House XOVER)
At 07:46 PM 5/12/2006, you wrote:
>Announcing a brand new FK/House, M.D. crossover story
Yay!! I shall post the link to my House list! I've done a Highlander/House
xover, and was looking for a FK one <g>
Ith *Ithildin@o.......* Denise
* Make Tea, Not Love ~Monty Python *
* A & C http://bittersweet.ondragonswing.com/ *
* HOUSE M.D. http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/DrHouse/ *
* The Darkwood http://ondragonswing.com/tales/ *
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Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 21:04:05 -0700
From: NAT <nat1228@c.......>
Subject: Re: Story announcement (FK/House XOVER)
At 07:54 PM 5/12/2006, Ith wrote:
>At 07:46 PM 5/12/2006, you wrote:
>>Announcing a brand new FK/House, M.D. crossover story
>
>Yay!! I shall post the link to my House list! I've done a
>Highlander/House xover, and was looking for a FK one <g>
Sure! And be sure to feed the author. She may say she doesn't care if
she gets feedback, but it's still nice to have. :-D
Nick and Nat fans will love the ending to this one! Cousins not so much. <g>
Nat
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Nancy A. Taylor
aka Natalie L
nat1228 @ c.......
Jaguar's Jungle: http://tinyurl.com/e39nv
TS Screen Captures: http://www.knightwatchman.net
Moonridge 2005: http://tinyurl.com/dgqco
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Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 13:40:51 +0930
From: Dorothy <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: Looking for a story
Hi all,
I am looking for a story by "Mary Wilkerson" called 'Different Lives'
I have part 1, does anyone know if it was completed.
Dot
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Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 13:56:09 +0930
From: Dorothy <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: great
Woo Hoo!!!! I got a 100 on my final project!!!!!!
Congratulations....Dot
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Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 00:36:19 -0700
From: Sarah Smith <lucien1228@h.......>
Subject: Re: Looking for a story
That sounds familiar, but I don't remember what it's called. If anyone knows
can they send it to me too? Thanks.
Sarah
> I'm looking for a story, where Nick is blackmailed by someone who had
>taken photos of him as a vampire. The precinct notices that he is being
>blackmailed and he admits that his real name is Nicholas de Brabant, head
>of the deBrabant foundation in order to give them a reason why he might be
>blackmailed. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
> Petra.
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Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:00:30 +0300
From: Lucia Nicolau <lnicolau@p.......>
Subject: Nick's self hate
I've been thinking for a while and I figured you might have some valuable
input.
It's common sense that a person who doesn't love himself can't love another.
The attention/affection of another would be interpreted as
misguided/desperate/weird. Nick is so full of guilt and self hate he pushes
Natalie away. And yet in those moments where he accepts himself he pushes
her away even more. It's a no win situation. I'm beginning to think that
their relationship was doomed from the start, not as much because of his
vampiric nature but rather because of the way he doesn't want to inflict
himself upon her.
1) How much do you think Nick's self hate influenced the lack of a
relationship with Natalie?
2) Did Natalie take the right steps to convince him of his worth? What did
she do, exactly?
3) What should she have done in your opinion and how would that have helped?
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Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 10:12:04 -0700
From: "David J. Duncan" <dante0220@y......>
Subject: Re: Nick's self hate
Hi Everyone,
In terms of Nick's feelings toward himself,
remember he's a creature of his time--the high
Middle Ages. He would aspire to the light, not
the darkness.
There are the double betrayals of his beliefs--in
Ireland (his uncle and the bishop)as well as I'm
sure the hypocrisies involved within the
Crusading movement. Perhaps he feels guilt that
he survived imprisonment where so many others
died. And then, there is his everlasting torment
as a vampire.
I don't think he currently (meaning Seasons 2-3)
loathes himself. It's the condition he loathes.
(I think that Jeanne d'Arc (re: Joan) helped him
with the whole faith and self-belief thing.)
This is where LaCroix also comes into play. As
the paterfamilias, he feels that Nick is a
commodity as well as son, companion, friend,
slave, whatever. As such, he abuses Nick,
reducing him down to 'thing' status.
(As in Constantine-flashback: "I don't want a
new one. I like THAT ONE!")
And this brings up the whole pushing people away.
Nick won't allow himself to get too close
because: he might hurt them AND/OR the Community
(esp. LaCroix) might hurt them. (See the nun,
the ballerina, Alyce Hunter, the Harp woman)
Natalie, to her credit, stood against LC in
pumping up Nick's ego and self-esteem. Those
were some of my favorite moments in the series.
But even she experimented on Nick once too often,
saying that 'I know what's good for you even if
you don't care'. In the end, she should have let
it drop, telling Nick 'that's it--you want a
relationship, fine. I'll take you as you are.
But I can't do it.'
And I think ultimately, as we saw in the series,
even if people offer someone all the help in the
world, s/he has to want to take it before it
becomes effective.
Just a few ramblings...
Thanks
David
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Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:37:54 +0100
From: Luicia <luicia1705@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK Alumni UNtogether
Does that follow for the UK production too? Have not
been able to get much info from the RSC's UK site
--- mrkkaye@a....... wrote:
> It was wonderful seeing Ger and Ben at the
> Shakespeare Theatre's 'Meet the Cast' Unfortunately
> it was announced this week that Ben will be stepping
> down and Hank Stratton will be playing Berowne.
>
"Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans" John Lennon
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Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 11:29:00 -0700
From: Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's self hate
I don't think Nick hates himself much, I think he hates what he is. There's a
difference. There may be times that he thinks he hates himself, but I've always
gotten the impression he hates what he is because he hates what he's capable of
doing (as well as what he's done in the past).
--Libs
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Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:40:01 -0400
From: Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's self hate
I have to agree with Libs on this. I never got the impression Nick hated
himself, but always felt he hated 'the beast' and the lack to control it at
times, and what the vampire was capable of. He hated his past, and felt
sorrow for the lives he'd taken, and hated the evil of the vampire. I
always felt Nick the man was a giving and caring man, but the vampire, the
beast, was evil. I always loved the scenes where Nick, the man, fought for
control over the vampire.
Deb
DeborahAHymon.com
on 5/13/06 2:29 PM, Libby Singleton at libratsie@s....... wrote:
> I don't think Nick hates himself much, I think he hates what he is.
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