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FORKNI-L Digest - 13 Nov 2005 to 14 Nov 2005 (#2005-304)

Mon, 14 Nov 2005

There are 5 messages totalling 135 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Fk Fanfiction (2)
  2. Fledglings, makers, sires, kinder
  3. FK question
  4. FK Moment

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Date:    Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:13:53 -0500
From:    Forever Knight Tales <fknight420@c.......>
Subject: Fk Fanfiction

I read every story I receive and give feedback whenever I can.  I
continue my series of the FKT, but feedback isn't there, although I ask
for it and would love some.  Good or bad.
Please continue the stories.
Cheryl fknight420@c.......



Don't trade a treasure
for an empty box.
www.ForeverKnight.5u.com
www.AngusGrady.50megs.com

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Date:    Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:32:21 -0500
From:    Magneto <magneto@w.......>
Subject: Re: Fledglings, makers, sires, kinder

 gwatson wrote:

    So I asked him what he meant, and he said the show called them "the
children of Cain".
    And my mind remained still *dead* blank on which episode he was
referring to.  (Some expert.)
    He was, of course, basing this notion of a Biblical origin on LaCroix's
comment in "A More Permanent Hell" about their being the children of Cain.
Which I have always taken metaphorically (i.e. vampires are outcast from
human society).  Sure, I can see why, after two millennia of Christianity,
LaCroix'd use such a phrase.  But why would he *believe* in something based
on Hebrew myth?  He's pagan Roman; and I've no evidence that he ever
converted -- which would pretty well have to be after being brought over,
given his characterization in the flashback to Pompeii.

Actually I suspect whoever wrote that particular episode may very well have
been at least partially influenced by gaming.  There's a particular vampire
roleplaying game in which the premise is that the Biblical Cain was the
first vampire--cursed by God--and that all subsequent vampires descended
from him.

just my two cents :)=

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Date:    Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:41:58 -0800
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y......>
Subject: Re: Fk Fanfiction

I hav my folder of "stories in progress"  The ideas are there, I know
exactly where I want to go with them, just haven't been able to sit
down and *write* them out.
I actually started one that I was planning to write for Halloween,
but it wound up going in a different direction.

Hopefully, when I get through this job transfer (woo hoo finally
getting out of my current position!!!!!!) I can sit down and finish
them.  I miss writing  It is a great emotional outlet for me.
Hopefully I can get to my Christmas story - it is just a little
ditty, so I should be able to at least knock that one out.

-Amanda

"This thing... man... whatever it is...evil may have created it, left its mark
on it, but evil does not rule it.  So I cannot kill it."  - Gabriel Van Helsing
http://www.darksideoftheglass.com


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Date:    Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:56:36 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Re: FK question

Doris asks:
>>-----I was watching the original Nick Knight movie. Nick's real name in that
>>
is Jean-Pierre. Does anyone know why it was changed to Nicholas and who
came up with de Brabant?<<

I don't know for sure about the Jean-Pierre to Nicholas change. My best guest
is that they wanted a name that worked in both French and English.  I'd like to
think that when they made the central character much older than he was in the
movie, they realized that a double given name like Jean-Pierre would be a
serious anachronism in the 13th c. :) Most likely though, they it was the dual
languages thing.

As for de Brabant, I remember during the first season, that either James Parriott
or someone else from the show (Gillian Horvath, maybe, who was writing FK but
not actually on the staff) asked if we thought Nick should be of French origin.
The consensus was no.  My reason for saying no was that before Rice, there was
no French tradition involving vampires and besides, it would be such a cliche.
The next thing we knew was the "de Brabant" on the show. I would guess that
J.P came up with Brabant in conjuction with the author of the first script to
use it. I thought it was a good choice because Brabant has always been both
Francophone and Flemish-speaking, but has never been part of France. At present
most of it, including the part that was an independent duchy in Nick's lifetime,
is in Belgium.

McLisa
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:52:25 -0800
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y......>
Subject: FK Moment

First a little background, I was doing a search on ebay (as I do from time to
time) for "Brabant".  Along with the copies of maps and postcards, there was a
book "Warfare in Medieval Brabant" that looked really interesting.  It was a bit
expensive so I checked out half.com.  When I did a search there it came up with
that as well as other titles including:

  "Canada and Noord-Brabant: An Eternal Bond"
  http://product.half.ebay.com/Canada-and-Noord-Brabant_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ2441983
  No idea what the book is actually about.  If it were really cheap I might
have bought it just for kicks.

  Of course I thought of Nick.... he's the 'eternal' bond between Canada and
Brabant.

  Well, I thought it was cool.
  -Amanda


"This thing... man... whatever it is...evil may have created it, left its mark
on it, but evil does not rule it.  So I cannot kill it."  - Gabriel Van Helsing
http://www.darksideoftheglass.com


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