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FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Oct 2004 to 6 Oct 2004 (#2004-277)

Wed, 6 Oct 2004

There are 24 messages totalling 674 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. WAR: Faction Hunt
  2. Calling all Cousins!
  3. War 10 archives? (2)
  4. War and Factions (was: Calling all Cousins!)
  5. Faction Hunt (3)
  6. WAR: Dark/Twilight Knighties? (2)
  7. WAR: Friendly Advertisement/Reminder- where to find us!
  8. WAR:  To Arms!
  9. Calling McMommy! (4)
 10. ot:? gmail invites
 11. FANZINE PAYMENT:  Season of Change by Deborah A. Hymon
 12. WAR:  Which war was it? (2)
 13. WAR: Which war was it? (2)
 14. WAR: Dark NNPAck
 15. Faction Web Page links

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Date:    Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:57:51 -0700
From:    Janice Cox <jlc_fresno@y......>
Subject: WAR: Faction Hunt

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, the was a
small, wicked faction called 'Nothers. (Or some such
thing; my brain ain't what it used to be.) This
faction was inhabited with people who love Natalie,
but think she'd be much better off with someone,
anyone!, who ain't Nick. There was even a Yahoo group
dedicated to such wicked thoughts, but it seems to
have faded away. Are there any remaining 'Nothers out
there planning to make War? Or have you been subsumed
by the voracious NatPackers?

Failing that, I dither between announcing my Die
Hardy-ness and simply declaring myself a shiftless,
irresponsible Vacquera and being done with it. The
trouble is, I've no idea to which Warmistress I would
announce said allegiance. Should I actually make up my
mind. Methinks my fear of making a commitment puts me
solidly in the Vaquera camp, but I could be wrong.

It's late in the day, and my brain is well-done. If
any of the above made a lick of sense, I can be
reached at jlc_fresno@y.......

If none of it made any sense, then I need chocolate
even more than usual. Send help.

Janice

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Date:    Tue, 5 Oct 2004 00:33:42 -0500
From:    Valerie Murek <murek1@b.......>
Subject: Re: Calling all Cousins!

I am horribly new at this, but what are the different factions (do you
have a description?)

I know I am definitely a Nick and Nat person and mostly on the dark
side... :o)

Thanks for any help.

Lerie

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Date:    Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:51:23 -0400
From:    Julia Kocich <jkocich@g.......>
Subject: War 10 archives?

Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but are the War 10
posts archived anywhere?

Thanks,
Julia K.
UF list cobra

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Date:    Tue, 5 Oct 2004 19:54:03 -0700
From:    NAT <nat1228@c.......>
Subject: Re: War 10 archives?

At 06:51 PM 10/5/2004, Julia Kocich wrote:
>Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but are the War 10
>posts archived anywhere?

http://www.fkvoyage.com/fkfanfic/war_10/war.txt

The war is all one file, a tad over 5 megabytes in size.

Nancy


~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Nancy A. Taylor -- nat1228@c.......
Knightie Co-Leader, Wars 10, 11, and 12
http://www.squidge.org/~nat1228/fk.htm
http://nat1228.tripod.com/war12.htm

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Date:    Tue, 5 Oct 2004 23:21:45 -0400
From:    Julia Kocich <jkocich@g.......>
Subject: War and Factions (was: Calling all Cousins!)

Valerie Murek wrote:
> I am horribly new at this, but what are the different factions (do you
> have a description?)

Valerie: There are many factions, and fractions. If you Google "FK
factions" you'll find lots of webpages that list some or all of the
factions.

As for the War, the War Maestro has listed which factions will be
eligible to participate in War 12. Here is his (I assume it is a he,
since it's "Maestro" and not "Maestra" *shrug*) post to the leaders
loop:

To: fkwarleaders@y.......
From:  "FK War Maestro" <warmaestro@y......>  Add to Address Book
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 21:48:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [fkwarleaders] War Leaders: It's Time To Organize


Dear War Leaders:

It's time to start getting your players together, and obtaining their
permission slips. Here's the required wording for the permission slip:

"I, <name>, <email address>, hereby express my intention to
participate in the Forever Knight War 12 on FKFIC-L, and hereby grant
permission to other participants to portray me as a character in their
writing."

Please have your permission slips collected and a list of participants
posted to this list and to your war faction web page (if you have one)
by October 25. You do not need to post the participant's real name
publicly, but your faction members do need to supply it to you
privately on their permission slips.

War 12 is limited to the major factions. In War 11, these factions were:

Cousins
Cousins of the Knight
Dark Perks
Die Hards/Independents
FoDs
Knighties
Mercenary Guild
NatPack
Nick and NatPack
Nunkies Anonymous
RatPack
Ravenettes
Unnamed Faction
Vaqueros
The only other factions I can think of that might wish to participate
are the Urchins and the Perks. They did not participate in War 11,
however.

To be eligible to participate, each faction must have at least 4
members. Members of fractions, or those who choose to remain
unaffiliated with any particular faction, can play as Die Hards or
Independents. These people can submit their permission slips to me.

I will have a War 12 website set up shortly. This website will display
the war rules, links to faction war web pages, lists of faction
members (those who have submitted permission slips) and faction
leaders, and other related crucial war information.

I hope the war premise will prove to be entertaining and full of
opportunities to get to know other list members and renew old
acquaintances. But first things first---let's get organized!

The War Maestro
warmaestro@y......
AIM: warmaestro12

~~
(Julia again: yes, if you're new to our game, I do tend to take the
mickey out of WMs, but only when they deserve to be de-mickified.)

Best wishes,
Julia K.
UF list cobra
We do have a modicum of ironic detachment from which we fling
ourselves wholeheartedly into this nonsense.

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Date:    Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:37:49 -0700
From:    Liz the Lucky <lizthelucky@c.......>
Subject: Re: Faction Hunt

Janice Cox asked:
> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, the was a
> small, wicked faction called 'Nothers.

Of the four main Nothers that made up the faction, I'm the only one still
doing Wars. We're all on a list together, so I can ask them if they want to
play, if you want. Let me know.

I agree, it was a fun group (especially the chef <weg>)

Hugs and Kisses,
Liz the Lucky       lizthelucky@c.......
http://www.mindspring.com/~luckyliz

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Date:    Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:51:38 -0700
From:    Danielle DeBrabant <danii.debrabant@g.......>
Subject: Re: Faction Hunt

I heard a song from a musical that made me think of the 'Nothers.
"There's a Fine, Fine Line" from Avenue Q.  It's a perfect "Natalie
moving on to find something better" song...and it's pretty to boot.
Maybe once I figure out Premiere I'll try and do something with it.

Danii

> > A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, the was a
> > small, wicked faction called 'Nothers.
> Of the four main Nothers that made up the faction, I'm the only one still
> doing Wars. We're all on a list together, so I can ask them if they want to
> play, if you want. Let me know.

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Date:    Tue, 5 Oct 2004 23:40:14 -0700
From:    Danielle DeBrabant <danii.debrabant@g.......>
Subject: WAR: Dark/Twilight Knighties?

I was just wondering if anyone was interested/was going to/I missed it
and they totally mentioned it/etc. play Dark or Twilight Knighties
this war.  Or are we just all Knighties?  I'm somewhat flailing around
trying to figure out where to sign up myself right now, so more
options are ALWAYS helpful in such a situation ::snicker::  Anyway,
just curious.

Danii

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:26:39 -0400
From:    Mildred Cady <mildred.cady@g.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: Friendly Advertisement/Reminder- where to find us!

And for those of you who want to check out our webpage, which has a
page where the guild members have chosen to share their skills (for
better service) and preferred payment (for ease of negotiation) go to
http://www.geocities.com/forevermerc/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Merc Mommy General
gods, this means the courtmartial is getting close!

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:22:39 -0500
From:    Christy Stillman <cstillma@u.......>
Subject: WAR:  To Arms!

Do you drool over Master Vampires with sexy voices?  Do you turn into a
puddle at the mere thought of staring into icy blue eyes?  Do you embrace
silliness and fun in all of their many and varied forms?  If so, we're the
faction for you!  Nunkies Anonymous--We take the dark side and make it fun!

If you would like to join Nunkies Anonymous for yet another fun-filled,
toga-wearing War, send your permisssion slip to Christy at
Nunketeer@c........

Please use your real name on the permission slip.  If you prefer to use a
nickname during the War, that's fine, but the permission slip needs your
actual name.  Please use the wording below:

"I, <name>, <email address>, hereby express my intention to participate in
the Forever Knight War 12 on FKFIC-L, and hereby grant permission to other
participants to portray me as a character in their writing."

Christy
Nunketeer@c.......

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:47:56 -0700
From:    Janice Cox <jlc_fresno@y......>
Subject: Re: Faction Hunt

Count me in. :-) But if we can't come up with four
factionians, I'll just find 'nother one.

Janice
Ouch. That one hurt me.

--- Liz the Lucky <lizthelucky@c.......> wrote:
Of the four main Nothers that made up the faction, I'm
the only one still doing Wars. We're all on a list
together, so I can ask them if they want to play, if
you want. Let me know.

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:45:59 -0600
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: Calling McMommy!

or someone in charge.  Always lose her adress. Sorry. <G>
'Rose

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:08:43 -0400
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Calling McMommy!

I'm replying on-list so that everyone will remember that both McLisa and Don
are off-list for a while. I've forgotten when McLisa said she'd be back, but I
think it is Oct. 12?

--Libs

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:27:49 -0400
From:    Mildred Cady <mildred.cady@g.......>
Subject: ot:? gmail invites

For those looking at an influx of mail soon, I have 6 gmail invites.
A 1 gig quota should help a lot.

~Mildred
Merc Mommy General with impending court martial

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:51:38 -0500
From:    Lisa Luksus <tokaara@c.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: Dark/Twilight Knighties?

Okay, let's try this again, this time to the list.  <sigh>

At 01:40 AM 10/6/2004, Danielle DeBrabant typed these words:

>I was just wondering if anyone was interested/was going to/I missed it
>and they totally mentioned it/etc. play Dark or Twilight Knighties
>this war.  Or are we just all Knighties?  I'm somewhat flailing around
>trying to figure out where to sign up myself right now, so more
>options are ALWAYS helpful in such a situation ::snicker::  Anyway,
>just curious.
>
>Danii

Never heard the term "Twilight Knighties" before ... interesting.  Anyway,
the last time the Dark Knighties played separately was in War 8.  Since you
need at least 4 faction members to play as a faction, you may or may not be
able to scare up enough others to make it as a group.  From War 9 on, Dark
Knighties have been welcome to play with the Cousins, if they so choose;
many have.  It's up to you, of course.



Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@c....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:59:00 -0400
From:    Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......>
Subject: FANZINE PAYMENT:  Season of Change by Deborah A. Hymon

I want to thank all of you that pre-ordered the books, and paid when they
arrived.  I trusted everyone with the pre-order requests. I took the
pre-orders to get an accurate count of how many to publish.  The more books
published, the cheaper the printing cost.  I'm happy to say that most of you
were very honest and prompt with your payment, and I thank you for that.

I paid for 125 books up front when the order was placed. I still have 13
copies that haven't been paid for. This seems a bit unfair, when I trusted
people. The only reason I took on this project was because readers requested
it.

I've had people emailing me that they never received notice that the books
were in or the cost. This is not true, because I've posted notices several
times on different lists.  I've also privately emailed many people, and keep
accurate records of all correspondence.

I'm writing this letter to the groups, because I still have 13 copies to
sell. If anyone is interested, please email me off list at:

debh@erinet.com

I've had requests to do another FK fanzine, and I have to honestly say that
I'm not sure if I will. If I do, only the people who were prompt this time
will be able to pay after the books are published.  Also, by not taking
pre-orders, there is no way to get a book count before printing, and keeping
the cost down. This is something that other FK writers should think about if
they ever decide to take on publishing a fanzine.

Again, thank you to all who kept their promise, and supported this project.

Sincerely,
Deborah A. Hymon
DeborahAHymon.com

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:18:57 -0700
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y......>
Subject: WAR:  Which war was it?

I can't remember which number war it was and none of the descriptions
on the archives sound like it...
Which war had the multiples of each character and the goal was to
find a way to restore the natural reality of one of each character?

This is just for my own curiosity - I played in it but don't remember
which one... it was a while ago since I was in college and I
graduated 5 years ago. (man, how time flies)

Thanks!
-Amanda

=====
"This thing... man... whatever it is...evil may have created it, left its mark
on it, but evil does not rule it.  So I cannot kill it."  - Gabriel Van Helsing
http://www.darksideoftheglass.com

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:46:17 -0700
From:    Tserisa <tserisa@g.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: Which war was it?

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:18:57 -0700, Amanda Berendt
<debrabant_foundation@y......> wrote:
> I can't remember which number war it was and none of the descriptions
> on the archives sound like it...
> Which war had the multiples of each character and the goal was to
> find a way to restore the natural reality of one of each character?

That was War 8.  I'm not sure if the archives are available anywhere.

-- Cousin Tserisa

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:10:49 -0700
From:    chris thatcher <mb_the_spy@y......>
Subject: Re: Calling McMommy!

Rose, Rose, Rose. *sigh* (will I ever see the wed?)
'course, Megan sez i'm officially the most forgetful
of the three of us, and i've got the certificate to
prove it!

chris ;?
--- Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
wrote:

> or someone in charge.  Always lose her adress.
> Sorry. <G>
> 'Rose


=====
"I don't bite.... Well, that's wrong; I do bite."
       ~K'Ehleyr


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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:06:05 +0100
From:    Luicia <luicia1705@y.......>
Subject: WAR: Dark NNPAck

What about the Dark NNPack??  Are they seperate or have they tamed themselves
to the ways of the NNPack?  Have they skulked their way into the realms of
Cousindom?

Luicia



  I WARNED you, but did you listen to me?
Oh, no, you know, didn't you?
Oh, it's just a harmless little BUNNY, isn't it?

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:55:29 -0700
From:    NAT <nat1228@c.......>
Subject: Re: WAR: Which war was it?

At 11:46 AM 10/6/2004, Tserisa wrote:
>On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:18:57 -0700, Amanda Berendt wrote:
> > Which war had the multiples of each character and the goal was to
> > find a way to restore the natural reality of one of each character?
>
>That was War 8.  I'm not sure if the archives are available anywhere.

The War 8 archives can be found at:
http://www.fkfanfic.com/war/war8/

A link to all the war story archives is available at my FK links page:
http://www.squidge.org/~nat1228/links.htm

Nancy

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Nancy A. Taylor -- nat1228@c.......
Knightie Co-Leader, Wars 10, 11, and 12
http://www.squidge.org/~nat1228/fk.htm
http://nat1228.tripod.com/war12.htm

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:16:00 -0500
From:    Lisa Luksus <tokaara@c.......>
Subject: Re: WAR:  Which war was it?

At 01:18 PM 10/6/2004, Amanda Berendt typed these words:
>I can't remember which number war it was and none of the descriptions
>on the archives sound like it...
>Which war had the multiples of each character and the goal was to
>find a way to restore the natural reality of one of each character?

As Tser said, it was War 8.  You can find War 8 posted at
http://www.fkfanfic.com/war/war8/.  I think at some point, we had located
URL's for all the Wars, but I can't recall where and apparently I didn't
save the relevant posts.



Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@c....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:26:13 -0700
From:    NAT <nat1228@c.......>
Subject: Faction Web Page links

Hi all! I need your help. While this isn't strictly war related, it was
inspired by the upcoming war. I was checking my links page for the faction
web sites and found several dead links. If anyone knows a new URL for any
of the following pages, I'd be very grateful. As it is, I've taken these
down from the page. I'd like to get as many as possible back up and running
properly.

Forever Knight Fanatics
formerly at: http://www.geocities.com/wetvampirekiss/

Knight's Loft
formerly at: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/6890/

Dark Knighties
formerly at: http://members.aol.com/marciat747/darkkngt/index.html

Unnamed Faction
formerly at: http://members.telocity.com/~siona/uf/index.html

Urchins
formerly at: http://forever.vachon.net/urs/

Enforcers
formerly at: http://www.naturesong.com/enforcers

Any help would be appreciated. Please contact me off-list (to save list
traffic) at

nat1228 (at) comcast.net (nat1228@c.......)

Thanks!

Nancy

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Nancy A. Taylor -- nat1228@c.......
Knightie Co-Leader, Wars 10, 11, and 12
http://www.squidge.org/~nat1228/fk.htm
http://nat1228.tripod.com/war12.htm

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Date:    Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:25:44 -0600
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: Re: Calling McMommy!

Crud.  sorry, thanks!  (this'll teach me to read the e-mails BEFORE deleting
them.)  ::sigh::
'Rose

"The true nature of the Vampire is undefined, undiscovered, inconceivably
complex, and therefore, Lots of fun!"

>I'm replying on-list so that everyone will remember that both McLisa and
>Don are off-list for a while. I've forgotten when McLisa said she'd be
>back, but I think it is Oct. 12?
>
>--Libs

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