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FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Aug 2004 to 6 Aug 2004 (#2004-212)

Fri, 6 Aug 2004

There are 22 messages totalling 582 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Divia's master (6)
  2. YKYAFKFW... and FK moment (8)
  3. Admin: URGENT: HAVE TO PUT OFF WAR PLANNING
  4. YKYBWTMFKW....
  5. Looking for author
  6. still looking for a story (2)
  7. war: Knightie war group
  8. Today's Birthday:  August 6
  9. KtK auction reminder :)

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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 17:55:38 -0400
From:    Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Re: Divia's master

Greer Watson asks:
>In "Ashes to Ashes", Divia gives the name of the vampire who brought her over:
>we all know how it's pronounced.  But how should it be spelled?  In reading fan
>fiction, I've come across more than one version: Qarah, Q'urah, Kharah, etc.
>Is any of these the canonical spelling (i.e. from the actual script for the show)?
>Does anyone know what that was?


I can't say that I've seen any scripts with his name on them (I've been so
traumatised ever since Constable Steeves in Games Vampires Play, ended up on
the cutting room floor and became an unnamed male Constable, that I've been
unable to bring myself to look at another script - kidding!), but this is
the usual problem with non-English alphabets. (Okay, I know that our
alphabet isn't called "English", linguistically speaking; I think that it's
called "Roman" or "Latin", but anyone who knows better probably ought to
just tell me off list because we'll be going far off the FK topic).

For instance, the incredibly delicious egg bread known as "Challah"
(visitors to Toronto absolutely need to give Yitz's Deli a ring, if you love
challah bread, by the way, in my not so humble opinion), is also spelled in
English as "Hallah", but in the Hebrew alphabet there is only one spelling;
same thing with "Channukah" or "Hannukah".

The situation is the same with Arabic, many Asian languages, etc. If I
recall correctly, the practise of giving English spellings to words spelled
in foreign alphabets is known as "transliteration" (but again if I have this
wrong, by all means someone please tell me so offlist), hence the multiple
spellings for Divia's dear old......dad? :-)

Will

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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:01:37 EDT
From:    Dory Blankenship <DORY12485@a.......>
Subject: Re: Divia's master

This is quoted from the transcripts on fkfanfic.com (LC=LaCroix, and D=Divia):

LC: The healer.  The ancient one.
D: Kahaha, said to be among the first of our kind.  He lived before the
pyramids were build.  Long before.

I have no reason to doubt the transcripts there.  Hope this helps, and have a
great day!
AgapePhilos,
Dory
Faith. Pure, simple faith. - Jeanne d'Arc, FIHS

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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:36:24 -0400
From:    mary combs <combsm@e.......>
Subject: Re: Divia's master

Dory wrote
>
> This is quoted from the transcripts on fkfanfic.com
> LC: The healer.  The ancient one.
> D: Kahaha, said to be among the first of our kind.

Hmmm. Ka-ha-ha. That would be deliciously funny, if true.
But the transcripts were made by people who *listened* to the show, and
painstakingly typed out the dialogue, bless them -- so it's the
transcribers' choice of spelling.
What we need is a copy of the script.
I'm convinced there's an R in there somewhere.<gr>

Mary (Combs)
NNpack

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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 19:27:07 EDT
From:    Dory Blankenship <DORY12485@a.......>
Subject: YKYAFKFW... and FK moment

You KNOW you're a Forever Knight fan when...

A) You realize your three favourite brands of car *all* revolve around FK.:
Cadillac-  Nick's car
Jaguar- LaCroix' car
Saturn- when anagrammed, it is Nat Urs.  Also has to do with the with the
Roman holiday, Saturnalia.

and B) You begin to dream of FK.  A couple of days ago, I dreamed that
Sony/Tristar was (were?) going to make a new FK radio drama, and they were putting
a want ad out on CNN's evening news. There was a graphic of LaCroix, and the
anchors were telling the news about the drama, saying that Sony had yet to find
someone for the role. I thought (in the dream) "Had they never heard of Victor
Roscetti*?"  I woke up wondering if Nigel Bennett would ever consider playing
LaCroix again if all it required is talking into a microphone.  By the way,
this was my first FK related dream. (finally)
*Victor Roscetti is a neato guy who has a voice a lot like LaCroix', and has
made several FK dramas on tape with a few others at Dragon's Lair Studios.

and the FK moment:
I was reading an article for a role-playing conference to be held here in
town.  The first paragraph said something like "Don't be surprised if you see
an ancient vampire stalking a medieval knight this weekend."  Of course, I
immediately giggled at the FK reference, whether intentional or not.

Well, that's it, have a great day!
AgapePhilos,
Dory.  (who *just* realized how much this e-mail mentions LC)
Faith.  Pure, simple faith. - Jeanne d'Arc, FIHS

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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 19:33:26 EDT
From:    Dory Blankenship <DORY12485@a.......>
Subject: Re: Divia's master

In a message dated 08/05/04 3:38:28 PM, combsm@e....... writes:
<< But the transcripts were made by people who *listened* to the show, and
painstakingly typed out the dialogue, bless them -- so it's the
transcribers' choice of spelling. >>

True. I stand corrected. Thank you, Mary! :)
AgapePhilos,
Dory.
Faith.  Pure, simple faith. - Jeanne d'Arc, FIHS

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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 20:05:38 -0400
From:    mary combs <combsm@e.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: URGENT: HAVE TO PUT OFF WAR PLANNING

McLisa wrote:
> Job emergency. I'm sorry, but I have to put off
>participating in war planning for at least 2 weeks
>and maybe 6.  If you can manage without me, fine.
>But I may even have to be no mail.

Manage without McLisa? Impossible. It wouldn't be a War without you.

Mary

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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 19:12:39 -0500
From:    Lyn Palmer <wizkid2u@c.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFKW....

I was in Sam's Club today(SAM'S Club, for Pete's sake!) and there in the
book section, was the Abarat!
It turned out to be a children's book.  I still bought it.  Just in case
some wayward vampire wants to "come on over and see me
sometime"......<G>
LYN
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
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"Women are wiser than men because they know less and understand more."
- James Thurber

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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:02:48 -0700
From:    Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: YKYAFKFW... and FK moment

Where did you get this?  As far as I know, it was
never in the show.

Knight Ranger

--- Dory Blankenship <DORY12485@a.......> wrote:
> You KNOW you're a Forever Knight fan when...
> A) You realize your three favourite brands of car
*all* revolve around FK.:
> Jaguar- LaCroix' car


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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:29:37 -0700
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......>
Subject: Re: YKYAFKFW... and FK moment

--- Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y.......> wrote:
> Where did you get this?
> --- Dory Blankenship <DORY12485@a.......> wrote:
> > Jaguar- LaCroix' car

I'm guessing probably from Nigel's books.  In his two novels, the
character of Richard drives a Jaguar.  Since Richard (at least on the
covers is portrayed as looking like Nigel) you could make the mental
leap that LC drives a Jag...

Or maybe from fanfic... I recall reading a story or two in which LC
drives a Jag... but it definitely is not canon.

-Amanda

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"This thing... man... whatever it is...evil may have created it, left its mark
on it, but evil does not rule it.  So I cannot kill it."  - Gabriel Van Helsing
http://www.darksideoftheglass.com



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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 20:46:27 -0500
From:    Lyn Palmer <wizkid2u@c.......>
Subject: Re: YKYAFKFW... and FK moment

  Where did you get this?  As far as I know, it was
  never in the show.

  Knight Ranger

  Wasn't the car that LaCroix drove up in with the Don (drat, I can't
remember the name of the episode, but a guy was running away from his
grandfather because he didn't want to be in the Mafia) an old Jag?
  I just remember LC stepping out of that gorgeous old low car and
standing up and up and up.

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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 19:06:25 -0700
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......>
Subject: Re: YKYAFKFW... and FK moment

The episode was "Father's Day" and at the end, when Constantine and
LC step out of the car, I had always assumed it was Constantine's
car... not LC's.
-Amanda

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"This thing... man... whatever it is...evil may have created it, left its mark
on it, but evil does not rule it.  So I cannot kill it."  - Gabriel Van Helsing
http://www.darksideoftheglass.com



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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 21:13:49 -0500
From:    Lyn Palmer <wizkid2u@c.......>
Subject: Re: YKYAFKFW... and FK moment

  The episode was "Father's Day" and at the end, when Constantine and
  LC step out of the car, I had always assumed it was Constantine's
  car... not LC's.
  -Amanda


  Yep, that's the episode I was thinking of, but I didn't remember it as
a right-hand drive.  You could be right.
  -Lyn



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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 21:40:52 -0500
From:    Lyn Palmer <wizkid2u@c.......>
Subject: Re: YKYAFKFW... and FK moment

  The episode was "Father's Day" and at the end, when Constantine and
  LC step out of the car, I had always assumed it was Constantine's
  car... not LC's.
  -Amanda


I dug out my discs, and sure enough, there's a chauffeur sitting in the
car. and I suspect it's Considine's (altho' I could Miklos moonlighting
as LC's driver...).

I DO believe that the hood ornament is the leaping jaguar, but I don't
have enough detail on the VCD....and that darned Considine insisted on
standing in front of the emblem in every shot!

Who'd have thought a decade later that we'd still find points to ponder?
=Lyn



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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 21:57:30 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Divia's master

> mary combs wrote:

> What we need is a copy of the script.
> I'm convinced there's an R in there somewhere.<gr>

So I looked at my copy of the script (yellow version, dated Feb. 1,
1996), and the answer is:

QA'RA

Not quite as much fun as Kahaha, is it? Darn! It would be so
undignified for Lacroix's grandpa's name to be a sound effect. <g>

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@c.......

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Date:    Thu, 5 Aug 2004 23:18:07 -0500
From:    Cassie Disiere <cadisiere@a.......>
Subject: Looking for author

Hey ya'll,

I'm looking for Susan M. Garrett.  If you're out there, email off list.
I would like to ask you a few question pertaining to your books.  My
email addy is cadisiere@a........

Thanks,
Cassie

Schanke: I'm curious what happens when we die, but I don't go on
reconnaissance missions to find out!

Visit my site at http://www.nicholeknight.com/

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Date:    Fri, 6 Aug 2004 04:57:03 +0000
From:    Nicola De Brabant <lucien1228@h.......>
Subject: still looking for a story

while the Halloween story by Kristen Fife is a good story (& well written)
it is not the one i'm looking for. in the one i'm looking for nick gets into
a sword fight with someone at the party who was drunk (i think the guy was a
security guard) thankx for the help.


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Date:    Fri, 6 Aug 2004 00:43:53 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: still looking for a story

I remember that one!  I can't tell you the name, but I can add more details for
whoever might know.  It was part of a much longer story, but the author posted
that section as a stand-alone one Halloween.  When Nick first comes to the
party, the Captain (I don't remember which) asks if it's a Templer costume, and
Nick gets incensed about that because he was a Hospitilier (and the two groups had
a rather deadly rivalry).  The drunk he fights is wearing a baseball costume
and goes after Nick with a bat.  After the fight, Nick puts his sword through a
table.  (This is the one you're talking about, right?  I'll be deeply
embarrassed if it's not.)

               -Megan

Nicola De Brabant <lucien1228@h.......> wrote:
while the Halloween story by Kristen Fife is a good story (& well written)
it is not the one i'm looking for. in the one i'm looking for nick gets into
a sword fight with someone at the party who was drunk (i think the guy was a
security guard) thankx for the help.

"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."


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Date:    Fri, 6 Aug 2004 10:21:20 EDT
From:    Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@a.......>
Subject: Re: YKYAFKFW... and FK moment

In a message dated 8/5/2004 9:54:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
debrabant_foundation@y....... writes:
Or maybe from fanfic... I recall reading a story or two in which LC
drives a Jag... but it definitely is not canon.
Yeah, I think it's fanon. I've read more than a couple of stories where
that's the car he's driving. And, it seems to fit.

Robin

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Date:    Fri, 6 Aug 2004 08:51:04 -0600
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: Re: Divia's master

>D: Kahaha, said to be among the first of our kind.  He lived before the
>pyramids were build.  Long before.

So, Divia's master's name sounds like a laugh, with a hairball at the
beginning?  Ok.  If you insist. <G>
'Rose

"The true nature of the Vampire is undefined, undiscovered, inconceivably
complex, and therefore, Lots of fun!"


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Date:    Fri, 6 Aug 2004 10:50:05 -0500
From:    katrinka <katrinka@f.......>
Subject: war: Knightie war group

I am back from vacation. I created a new group for the upcoming war.
To get there http://groups.yahoo.com/group/knightieswar

I know it might be a few weeks off, but might as well start planning.

The Knighties are those who like Nick Knight as their favorite character. We
accept anyone who likes Nick. It doesn't matter if you like him as a vampire
or human.

Please, if you want to join send me a loyality statement. This group
is only for those who will be playing as knighties. Hopefully this
will be a fun war!

Katrinka
Knightie Leader

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Date:    Fri, 6 Aug 2004 10:38:43 -0500
From:    eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday:  August 6

Hi Y'all!

Today is the birthday of:       Phylis
<Knightfilli>   phylis_s_2000_2001@y....... AND Me,
                                Terri Wadsworth         eowyn3@j.......

You can send birthday greetings to Phylis and me at the above e-mail
addresses. Please NOT to the list!

People who share birthdays on this date include:
Isaac Hayes, Soul Singer
Catherine Hicks, TV/Movie Actress
M. Night Shyamalan, Movie Director
Lucille Ball, TV/Movie/Stage Actress
Sir Alexander Fleming, Scientist

Significant events on this date:
1787, the Constitutional Convention began to debate the articles
contained in a draft of the United States Constitution.
1945, the United States B-29 Super Fortress called the "Enola Gay"
dropped an atomic bomb Hiroshima, Japan.
1996, NASA announced the discovery of evidence of a primitive life form
on Mars.

I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Phylis!

If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed) and e-mail address to me,
privately, eowyn3@j....... and I'll be glad to add you.

Terri
eowyn3@j......., eowyn@w.......
GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic  Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List

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Date:    Fri, 6 Aug 2004 13:15:56 EDT
From:    SField8067@a.......
Subject: KtK auction reminder :)

posted with permission :)

Hi Everyone,
If you haven't checked out our latest auction, please stop over and see all
the fab items we have available this time out.
also, we have a really great Caption Contest going on,so be sure to check
that out too!! Details on everything can be found on the official Crusader
website:
http://www.nancykam.com/crusader/

susan ellen field
KtK/Crusader fearless leader :)
SField8067@a.......

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