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FORKNI-L Digest - 24 Nov 2003 to 25 Nov 2003 (#2003-44)

Tue, 25 Nov 2003

There are 14 messages totalling 360 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. piano/nicks stuff (9)
  2. Which episode? (3)
  3. piano (2)

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Date:    Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:03:45 EST
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: piano/nicks stuff

In a message dated 11/24/2003 2:06:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cloudrider@a....... writes:
>But for Nick the cop, I just think his budget for toys should already be used
>up with the Caddy and the bike. Uhm, and the stereo, etc. . .
People generally buy what they want, whether they can/should be able to
afford it,  Nick is single, and the car is hardly an expensive one, (he could
have bought a wreck and restored it himself) The Norton is about $5000 even
today, so most of the stuff he has is very explainable, except for maybe the
unknown DaVinci in his cabinet (why didnt the cops find that in Killer instinct??)

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Date:    Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:36:19 -0500
From:    Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: piano/nicks stuff

>From: Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
>
>so most of the stuff he has is very explainable, except for maybe the unknown
>DaVinci in his cabinet (why didnt the cops find that in Killer instinct??)

It wasn't signed.  they didn't identify it.  Or they identified it as a
picture of  Nick's friend Janette  ergo it couldn't be  anything special.

as for the cost of Nick's stuff.  he has no family, he could have inherited
some money.   Years ago He preferred to buy  the  grand  piano over a car
like a friend of mine did.

As for salary here is a exerpt from an article  I took out of the the
Toronto Star) about a year ago

A last-minute deal has been reached that makes Toronto's police officers the
highest paid in Canada.

The contract, which must still be ratified by the 7,000 rank-and-file
members of the service, gives uniform officers at least an 11 per cent raise
over the next three years. Some civilian employees, such as dispatchers,
will see their pay cheques increase by as much as 18 per cent over the
length of the contract.

Before the agreement, a first-class constable earned $60,300, a detective or
sergeant $68,000 and a detective-sergeant or staff-sergeant $75,000. By
2004, a first-class constable will earn $73,500, a sergeant or detective
will make $85,000, and a detective-sergeant or staff-sergeant $92,000.

The contract also includes incentives for long-serving officers, giving
those with more than eight years of experience an extra 3 per cent raise in
2003 and 2004. Officers with more than 15 and 22 years on the job will see
larger increases.


Debbie Clarke


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Date:    Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:42:44 -0500
From:    Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: Which episode?

Her name was Daphane Malloch and she was in Forensics.

Debbie Clarke


>From: "Berendt, Amanda" <Amanda.Berendt@a.......>

>I know it is second season. It is the episode where the lady police officer
>(or aide) is seemingly after Schanke because he is married.


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Date:    Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:41:50 -0700
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: piano/nicks stuff

> so most of the stuff he has is very explainable, except for maybe the unknown
> DaVinci in his cabinet (why didnt the cops find that in Killer instinct??)

Oh, they did, no doubt. But they're cops, not art experts. And it sure
doesn't look like a DaVinci to me! :-)

Your very humble & most obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred

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Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:29:55 GMT
From:    KC Smith <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: piano/nicks stuff

Wow! Anyone know what those figures are in American currency?  Also, my husband
says that those salaries really aren't that much, since they pay out most of it
in taxes (universal healthcare, etc.). Is this true?

KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with dark tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
http://www.geocities.com/knightlady2u/

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Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:23:45 +1030
From:    "ADULT   D.Simpson" <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: Re: Which episode?

      Beyond the Law... I think

       Dot

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Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:54:16 +1030
From:    "ADULT   D.Simpson" <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: Re: Which episode?

        Her name was Daphne

        Dot

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Date:    Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:40:54 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: piano

> Deborah wrote:
> > They had Geraint, an actor who was very talented, and could
> play this gorgeous instrument, but they hardly let Nick show his talent.

Now, I adore Ger, think he's way charming and a very talented
actor---but honestly, he's not a concert pianist. He's a adequate
amateur player, but nothing he's played (on his CD or in the show) is
technically difficult. And remember, he doesn't read music,
either---he plays by ear.

Please don't hate me---but let's not make him out to be the next
incarnation of Beethoven or something.

Now Nick---I want to believe he's a fabulous musician! AFter all,
think of how much time he's had to practice! <g>

Wet-blanketedly yours,
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@c.......

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Date:    Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:56:00 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: piano/nicks stuff

> KC Smith wrote:

> Wow! Anyone know what those figures are in American currency?
>  Also, my husband says that those salaries really aren't that
> much, since they pay out most of it in taxes (universal
> healthcare, etc.). Is this true?

Yes, I'm sure those are Canadian dollars. Right now the exchange rate
is $1 CAD = $1.3 US. So a $75,000 CAD salary, for instance, is $56,
952 US.

As for the taxes, some of our Canadian members should answer to that.
Rates are higher---but I sure wouldn't mind not worrying about medical
coverage after I retire.

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@c.......

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Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:56:02 -0400
From:    T <tfloyd@n.......>
Subject: Re: piano/nicks stuff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......] On Behalf Of
> Nancy Kaminski
> As for the taxes, some of our Canadian members should answer to that.
> Rates are higher---but I sure wouldn't mind not worrying about medical
> coverage after I retire.


It's a pretty posh loft for a cop's salary in Toronto--he'd have to have
some savings for a down payment to afford it, but it's surely possible

Based on what Michele said, I expect he'd be in the range of about $80k to
$100k CDN, plus overtime, bonuses, investment income.  With decent credit
and $200k down, he'd likely be able to afford as much as $300k to $500k.
The payment every two weeks would be about $600.  Based on the MLS.ca site,
that could get him a nice place downtown with a water view, not too far from
the market.

As far as taxes go--he doesn't have to save for retirement, but he can get
deductions for contributions to an RRSP anyway, for endowments to
universities, and so on.  We pay serious taxes, but not unreasonable...and
Nick doesn't have to worry about medical or food bills really.

I suspect I may have done too much research here :)
--
LapLor
tfloyd@n.......
"The person sitting next to you is weirder than you can possibly imagine."

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Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:43:16 -0500
From:    Tim Phillips <tim.phillips@a.......>
Subject: Re: piano

> It's just that IMHO there's still this little problem that too many weird
> things are adding up, too much to explain without ever getting anyone
> suspicious (except Schanke...)
        Well, Schanke is the 1st partner that Nick has had in Toronoto.
        His deal with Stonetree was "I work at night and I work alone".
        If need kept his distance socially from people, they would probably
never pick up on all the "weird habits"  he has.
        Schanke is probably the 1st person - aside Natalie - to spend enough
time in Nick's presence to start noticing all the weird little things
as a whole.

                Tim

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Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:54:54 -0700
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: piano/nicks stuff

> Anyone know what those figures are in American currency?  Also, my
> husband says that
> those salaries really aren't that much, since they pay out most of it
> in taxes (universal healthcare, etc.). Is this true?

Payroll taxes (Canada Pension Plan, Employment Insurance, Provincial and
Federal Income Tax) ran an average of 33% of gross income, when I was
working in payroll 10 years ago. (I used to take our total non-executive
payroll figures for the whole company and do the math from time to
time.) Here in Alberta, payroll tax has actually gone down a bit in the
last 10 years; other provinces will be different.

In Alberta, we have government health insurance for all residents; it is
$88/month for a family, which is paid by the government if you don't
have enough money. This covers only a token part of the health care
expenses--most of it is paid through income tax. Blue Cross or other
supplementary private health insurance is also available, and will cover
dental and prescriptions, sometimes vision. The price and exact coverage
depends on your Blue Cross plan.

As for exchange rate, if we start discussing that we will have to get
into the whole cost-of-living question as well. For example, I'm
currently paying $0.57/litre for gas--what's that translate to in
American? ;-) And the prices for natural gas and electricity may also be
substantially different...

Your very humble & most obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred

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Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:19:51 +0100
From:    Doris <lucilla@c.......>
Subject: Re: piano/nicks stuff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Angela Gottfred" <agottfre@t.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: piano/nicks stuff



> currently paying $0.57/litre for gas

Proving that driving a caddy in Germany would nearly be your ruin ;)
Not that Nick would mind with all his Swiss accounts.
Today's price for a liter of regular gas: 1.05 Euro (1Euro= 0.64 CAD; 0.87
USD)
Does anyone know the average milage of a vintage Caddy?

Doris

"Even eternal life is too short to wait for a table" - Uncle
http://www.come-undone.net

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Date:    Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:08:39 EST
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: piano/nicks stuff

In a message dated 11/25/03 11:17:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,
lucilla@c....... writes:

> Does anyone know the average milage of a vintage Caddy?

on a good day, if everything is in tune, maybe 10-12 miles per gallon.

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