FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Nov 2003 to 6 Nov 2003 - Special issue (#2003-24)
Thu, 6 Nov 2003
There are 37 messages totalling 1034 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. FK Moment (9)
2. Power seller
3. Icons [was Re:FK Moment]
4. Lisa Ryder Interview
5. Crosses and Holy Relics (2)
6. Power Seller (4)
7. Another FK Moment
8. Queston...
9. DVD - Not FK (2)
10. Extreme Trivia (3)
11. Blooper in "Dying to Know You"?
12. Crosses
13. Fwd: Re: [FORKNI-L] FK Moment
14. New Scene happy dance--Father Figure
15. Fic question about TO (2)
16. 1-800-Missing
17. DVD - FK
18. DVD - Not FK (The Breed)
19. Link of the gods
20. CaddyWhackers: 1961 Caddy model kits found!
21. DVD(not FK)The Breed
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:52:12 -0500
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@E.......>
Subject: Re: FK Moment
>Imagine the fun he would have describing some Roman battle. <snip>
>At the critical moment, I, er General Lucius, broke the
>The possibilities are endless.. Fan-fic?
Actually, Spike Shovelton has sort of done this. He has a series of
nine stories beginning with Lucifer in Starlight that alludes back to
when he was in army. I really don't want to explain any further in
case you decide to read it/them.
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@e.......
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:18:01 -0800
From: Laura Davies <brightfeather1.geo@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK Moment
> >Imagine the fun he would have describing some Roman battle. <snip>
> >At the critical moment, I, er General Lucius, broke the
> >The possibilities are endless.. Fan-fic?
Slightly off-topic here, but the same could be said
for Highlander. <eg> I mean , if you were really
*there*. I've contemplated messing around with
something like that, and perhaps having Nick explain
that the portraits we've got of historical figures
look *nothing* like them...
Another tangent here, but I was wondering... Vampires
can't go into Catholic churches because of the cross
and "holy" items, but does that stand for other bits
of Christianity as well? Could a vampire go into a
church that doesn't have such stuff?
Laura (who's been toying with the idea of sending Nick
to talk to a different sect of Christianity just
because he might be able to do it)
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:22:12 -0500
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@E.......>
Subject: Re: Power seller
>the items. How do you explain possessing rare things
>that nobody's seen for centuries?
LaCroix...explain?
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@e.......
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:28:13 -0800
From: Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK Moment
--- Laura Davies <brightfeather1.geo@y.......> wrote:
> Another tangent here, but I was wondering... Vampires
> can't go into Catholic churches because of the cross
> and "holy" items, but does that stand for other bits
> of Christianity as well?
I forget if FK canon goes this way, but I know one ideas has items
such as crosses affect vampires only if they believe in that
particular thing. I.E - a cross wouldn't affect Lacroix because he
isn't a christian, the same with Divia. You would think that say...
a star of david wouldn't affect Nick since he doesn't believe.
Although in AMPH, when Nick goes to the dead scientist's house he
shies away from a menorah sitting on a shelf, but then again FK is
not known for consistancy.
-Amanda
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:39:42 -0800
From: Laura Davies <brightfeather1.geo@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK Moment
> Although in AMPH, when Nick goes to the dead
> scientist's house he
> shies away from a menorah sitting on a shelf, but
> then again FK is
> not known for consistancy.
hmm... Well, since Christianity comes from Judiasm (if
you want to be technical <g>) it *does* make sense in
a weird sort of way that a Jewish symbol might affect
a Christian vampire...
Laura
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:52:38 EST
From: Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK Moment
In a message dated 11/5/2003 6:40:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
brightfeather1.geo@y....... writes:
>hmm... Well, since Christianity comes from Judiasm (if
>you want to be technical <g>) it *does* make sense in
>a weird sort of way that a Jewish symbol might affect
>a Christian vampire...
This is probably an old discussion but, why is LaCroix repelled by crosses?
Wasnt something said once about it being the energy behind the object, and not
the object itself?
Mo
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:04:07 -0500
From: urtikit mindless <urtikit@m.......>
Subject: Icons [was Re:FK Moment]
Amanda writes:
>Although in AMPH, when Nick goes to the dead scientist's house he
>shies away from a menorah sitting on a shelf, but then again FK is
>not known for consistancy.
Actually, I've always thought this was one area where FK did
manage some consistency.
LaCroix, Nick, Janette, Divia -- basically, everyone reacted
to holy icons, ranging from crosses to menorahs to ceremonial knives
to sun symbols. And without regard to belief in the particular
item (cf. Nick's experience with the knife, which he didn't even
know was sacred before touching it).
So, I've always considered that actual canonical consistency.
As to why, well, we have Nick's opinion -- they're symbols of the
light, anathema to creatures of the dark. Or something like that.
Nick sometimes didn't make much sense... or is that just me? :-)
Kit
urtikit@m.......
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:30:25 EST
From: Stephen Lansing <phoenix348@c.......>
Subject: Lisa Ryder Interview
Could someone send me a copy of what Lisa Ryder said about FK during the
Andromeda interview? I was using webmail when I read it and I accidentally deleted
it.
Many thanks!
Stephen
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:37:43 -0500
From: mary combs <combsm@E.......>
Subject: Re: FK Moment
Amanda wrote:
> I forget if FK canon goes this way, but I know one ideas has items
> such as crosses affect vampires only if they believe in that
> particular thing. I.E - a cross wouldn't affect Lacroix because he
> isn't a christian, the same with Divia.
FK canon doesn't use either the "it's all in the vampire's head" or the
"it's all in the faith of the person holding the object" tack on religious
objects.
Some fanfic does, of course.
Nick explains to Natalie that Joan's cross is threatening to him because
it's "a symbol of the one true light and we are creatures of darkness."
The cross most definitely affects LaCroix, and it clearly irks him no end
that it does. We don't know for certain about the effect of a cross on
Divia. LaCroix says to Nick that the symbol of the sun god on the tomb had
the same affect on her that the cross does "on us." At the time Lucius put
her in that tomb (around 99 A.D.), the cross wasn't yet one of those
powerful symbols of light. In fact, it remained a standard form of
execution until the mid Fourth Century, when Constantine declared it was
disrepectful of the Passion of Christ.
There might be some interesting fiction in imagining just when and how
LaCroix and his contemporary vamps discovered that they were vulnerable to
crosses.
Also, in FK objects with a potent positive spiritual association affect
vampires even when they don't know that the object has an religious
significance. When Nick is stung by the obsidian knife in Blackwing, he is
clueless until Tracy tells him what the object means, and then he gets it.
And yes, Nick does feel the effect of a menorah.
Mary
N&Npack
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:43:43 -0800
From: Mary Beth Mc Coy <mmccoy@l.......>
Subject: Re: Crosses and Holy Relics
Regarding the discussion on vampires reacting to holy relics and crosses,
Nick's explanation is that these are (in Nick's words) "symbols of the one
true light". I don't think it's surprising that they also react to jewish
symbols, after all, Christ and the disciples were all Jewish. Anything holy
would be repulsive to vampires, since they are considered creatures of the
dark, and sinful, as are other demons.
Hope this helps.
Mary Beth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michele Canterbury" <Mobody@a.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: FK Moment
> In a message dated 11/5/2003 6:40:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> brightfeather1.geo@y....... writes:
> hmm... Well, since Christianity comes from Judiasm (if
> you want to be technical <g>) it *does* make sense in
> a weird sort of way that a Jewish symbol might affect
> a Christian vampire...
> This is probably an old discussion but, why is LaCroix repelled by crosses?
> Wasnt something said once about it being the energy behind the object, and not
> the object itself?
>
> Mo
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:28:00 +1100
From: Christine Hawkins <chawkins@n.......>
Subject: Re: Power Seller
We're assuming, of course, that LaCroix sticks to legitimate markets. Does
anyone know anything about the illegal antiques trade? I'm sure someone
with the experience of LaCroix would be able to locate a collector who is,
shall we say, not too fussy about the provenance of his collection....
Christine.
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:30:22 -0500
From: Arletta Asbury <g4akl@c.......>
Subject: Re: Crosses and Holy Relics
>> Wasnt something said once about it being the energy behind the object, and
>not
>> the object itself?
Yeah, I think some time ago, there was a rather a concensus here that the
energy in a holy object came from the belief of members of the religion
that regarded it as holy. Ie. the power in the obsidian knife came
from all the Indians who regarded it as a holy object.
Arletta
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:27:40 -0800
From: Liz the Lucky <luckyliz@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK Moment
Michele sed:
> This is probably an old discussion but, why is LaCroix repelled by crosses?
> Wasnt something said once about it being the energy behind the object, and not
> the object itself?
My personal theory is that vampires are burned by *light/sun*
religious symbols, not just any ol' religious symbol. That explains
why Nick was burned by that Raven knife, yet passed out clutching a
statue of the Virgin with no problem.
--
Hugs and Kisses,
Liz the Lucky luckyliz@c.......
http://www.mindspring.com/~luckyliz
Who is Will? And why is everyone firing at him?
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:30:09 -0800
From: Lady Ariake <lady_ariake@y.......>
Subject: Re: Power Seller
--- Christine Hawkins <chawkins@n.......> wrote:
> We're assuming, of course, that LaCroix sticks to
> legitimate markets. Does
> anyone know anything about the illegal antiques
> trade?
Actually, if Aristotle is as good a forger as he
claims, then it wouldn't be a problem for legitimate
collectors. The majority of museums would be a harder
sell, but that's because nowdays not only are they
paranoid about chain of title but because most museums
only BUY objects if it is absolutely one of a kind and
utterly priceless AND they have a donor or three
willing to foot the bill. Particularly in the US,
museums, which are largely nonprofits, don't have the
money to compete with serious private collectors.
(The only reason the Field Museum got Sue the T-rex at
auction was they had companies like McDonalds and
Disney backing them.) They'll take donations, but
usually most won't go out of their way to buy objects.
(Besides, then you have to insure it, and store it
because the majority of items aren't on display, and
if you DO want to exhibit it there's another big
expenditure to design the case and security for
something really valuable....)
Since I don't think La Croix is worried about making
tax-deductable donations, he'd probably be selling to
a private collector, who is unlikely to be too curious
as long as there's no evidence it's a recent import.
A few well-forged estate inventories, maybe an elderly
letter mentioning the find--no one's going to look to
closely until it changes hands again, and by then La
Croix is long gone. And of course there is a thriving
black market in antiquities, full of collectors who
don't care where it came from or how it got here, just
so long as it's authentic. I can't imagine him having
to bother going through a traditional auction house or
eBay when he could probably get a lot more selling
anything he has under the table. In a major city like
Toronto, there are almost certainly dealers willing to
pay top dollar and not ask questions, because they
have clients who aren't worried about title at all.
Jennifer
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writhe in eternal torment and the possessed feast on the blood of the
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:04:27 -0500
From: Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: Power Seller
>From: Christine Hawkins <chawkins@n.......>
>We're assuming, of course, that LaCroix sticks to legitimate markets. Does
>anyone know anything about the illegal antiques trade? I'm sure someone
>with the experience of LaCroix would be able to locate a collector who is,
>shall we say, not too fussy about the provenance of his collection....
I would think they might want to know it too. After all the item doesn't
have any value if you can;t prove what it is.
Take the recently discovered so called protrait of Shakespeare. As a
painting it's not very good. It's only value is that it might be a
painting of Shakespeare. But without someone like Nick or LaCroix to tell
us that it actually is Shakespeare we can't know who it is..
In this case the family's claims of providance, the fact that the
painting is old enough to have been Shakespeare, the fact that someone
identified it as Shakespeare (unfortunately at a later date) are not
sufficient to prove that what we see before us is indeed a portrait of
William shakespeare.
Debbie Clarke
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:35:04 -0600
From: DLPH <DLPH@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK Moment
> You would think that say...
> a star of david wouldn't affect Nick since he doesn't believe.
> Although in AMPH, when Nick goes to the dead scientist's house he
> shies away from a menorah sitting on a shelf
But when LC burried Divia
he said the symbol of the sun god (Ra)
acted on her much as the cross does on them
So they woudn't neccerally have
to belive in the symbol it self
anything that was a symbol of light
Of corse that's starting to sound like
Cartoon Logic
"It is if we say it is"
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:45:07 -0600
From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Power Seller
> Debbie Clarke wrote:
> Take the recently discovered so called protrait of Shakespeare. As a
> painting it's not very good. It's only value is that it might be a
> painting of Shakespeare. But without someone like Nick or
> LaCroix to tell us that it actually is Shakespeare we can't know who it is..
I think the portrait is quite good, myself---the face is full of
personality, and wonderfully painted. But yes, no one can be sure if
it really is a portrait of Shakespeare (although I rather hope it is:
I want to think that such a brilliant mind lived behind such a
charming face!)
The book, "Shakespeare's Face" by Stephanie Nolan is a fascinating
story of the painting's journey through the process of provenance and
authentication. I bought a copy of the book when I was in Stratford
last year (they used the portrait on the official poster for last
year's 50th anniversary of the Stratford Festival). If you want to
find out what goes into authenticating something, this book will give
you a good idea. It's a great read!
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@c.......
who wished, while reading the book, that Nick would tell me, "Yeah,
that's him. Nice guy." <g>
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:07:02 -0800
From: Laura Davies <brightfeather1.geo@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK Moment
We don't know for certain about the
> effect of a cross on
> Divia. LaCroix says to Nick that the symbol of the
> sun god on the tomb had
> the same affect on her that the cross does "on us."
Divia being affected by the symbol of the sun god
makes perfect sense. The cult of the sun god, Sol or
Baal (same idea, different names over the centuries
and locations) would have been known as a "mystery
cult" during Divia's mortal lifetime. Mystery cults
were considered "foriegn" religions, but were
practiced by some. <bg> The Villa of the Mysteries in
Pompeii has some interesting wall paintings that
depict some of the secret rights of some known and
unknown mystery cults.
Laura (who's been learning about this stuff in art history)
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:56:22 -0800
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Another FK Moment
This is actually from before the Vesuvius one, but
anyway....I wound up renting the movie 'Druids' or
'Vercingitorix' with Christopher Lambert when I went
to pay my internet bill, and they were mentioning
about whoever it was that conquered Gaul...and I spent
some time afterward trying to reconcile that with all
the talk about LC conquering Gaul right before
Vesuvius erupted...LOL. Ah well, maybe the FK people
just altered things a bit :)
Mel, who thought the movie was ok, but nothing spectacular
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 21:00:42 -0800
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Queston...
I hate to do this onlist, but could the person who had
the memorabilia for sale either mail me offlist or
mail me the list of stuff please? I didn't realize
until it was too late that I had deleted the email
with your address in it, so I couldn't mail you
directly.
Thanks, and sorry for bringing it onlist...I now
return you to your regularly scheduled mailing list
Mel
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:06:01 -0500
From: Don Fasig <argent@c.......>
Subject: DVD - Not FK
Last night I was browsing the discount DVDs at Wal-Mart when I came across a
movie that seems designed to appeal to FK fans. It's called "The Breed" and
stars Adrian Paul (aren't most of us also Highlander fans) as a 'good' vampire
cop.
Of course the movie doesn't resemble FK in the least - but it sure had me going
for a minute.
L8r
Don ----,-'<@
argent@c.......
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:12:43 -0500
From: Jean Graham <JeanG477@a.......>
Subject: Extreme Trivia
Watching the FK DVDs has been verrrrry enlightening.
Things I never noticed 'cause my old VHS tapes of the Canadian FK episodes were
too fuzzy to see 'em:
In "Dance By the Light of the Moon," the ID card with Nick's badge says:
METROPOLITAN POLICE (over his picture)
Name -- Nick Knight
Address -- 7 Curity Ave., 27th Precinct
DOB -- _______ (this is blank!) Age -- 31
Date -- Oct 1/90 SS# -- ______ (this is also blank)
Hm. Didn't Nick later claim, when Larry Merlin had to create his identity in
the computers, to have been born in 1957? His ID indicates it was '59! (Better
get your stories straight, Nick!)
Also in DBTLOTM: When Nick and Schanke are heading into Jilly's, just after
the bum asks if he can park Nick's Caddy (this scene was cut from the CBS
version), Nick does a very brief double take at the sign on the sidewalk. It's
a tall, lighted photo of a suit of armor with the caption: "Visit Our Suit Dept.
Come to the Museum." I could never tell what was on the sign before.
And the handwritten sign on the door in the stripper's dressing room (there are
several, but this is the only one you can read), says, "ATT: Girls on the
schedule. There is a $5.00 D.J. fee, each day/night that you are here. *This will
come off of your pay. Do not give to the D.J. Management."
Nice to know the FK production crew paid so much attention to detail, even if
the details contradicted each other sometimes. :-)
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:20:18 -0500
From: Jean Graham <JeanG477@a.......>
Subject: Blooper in "Dying to Know You"?
I never noticed before that Hedges' wife's cause of death is contradictory in
this episode. When Schanke calls Nick, he clearly says, "They cut her throat,
man," followed by a shot of the body with a lot of blood on the white clothing.
Later, over the woman's corpse in Nat's lab, Nick says, "She was asphyxiated,
right?" and Nat nods yes.
Is that a script change that somebody forgot to edit on page X? Or a writer's
goof that nobody caught? 'Course, I suppose you could cheesily rationalize that
a cut throat would certainly asphyxiate you rather quickly!
--JG
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 01:55:07 -0800
From: preston kim <strawbearylover3@y.......>
Subject: Re: DVD - Not FK
coming out of lurkdom to save fellow listmembers :) don said
Last night I was browsing the discount DVDs at Wal-Mart when I came across a
movie that seems designed to appeal to FK fans. It's called "The Breed" and
stars Adrian Paul (aren't most of us also Highlander fans) as a 'good' vampire
cop.
please check to make sure you are also a fan of blade runner, dark city (was
that the keifer sutherland movie?) if so it is the right one:"> i do not want to
reveal much more except that if your expecting highlander /fk type movie it is
no where near that . However if you like blade runner ( i do but more for the
music:">) then you will quite possibly like this movie. That being said i will
say i enjoyed the movie but he was no Nick Knight by any means , but then again
there is no other:)
kim
opps sorry don first one only went to you :">
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:51:35 -0800
From: Cheryl Pillsbury <fknight12281992@y.......>
Subject: Crosses
Hello. According to myth and most stories told, the reason they repell the
holy objects is because of the person's faith behind it. The two combind repells
them. You must faith for the cross to work but the jewish star has no power
over them, only the christian/catholic cross, and stay safe.
Cheryl Pillsbury
FKnight12281992@y.......
He was brought across in 1228
I was brought across in1992
I will always be his Forever Knight
ForeverKnight.5u.com
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 04:51:55 -0800
From: Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......>
Subject: Fwd: Re: [FORKNI-L] FK Moment
Oops, my reply went to Mary only for some reason.
> --- mary combs <combsm@e.......> wrote:
> >
> > The cross most definitely affects LaCroix, and it
> > clearly irks him no end
> > that it does.
>
Well, crucifixion was originally punishement
specifically for traitors to Rome, so maybe that's
anathema to LaCroix.
Someone pass the Brie?
<g>
Laurie of the Isles
"Delivering melted cheese on bread, doing
your part to keep America constipated."
- Spike, BtVS, 'Doomed'
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 06:13:53 -0700
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: New Scene happy dance--Father Figure
Watched the DVD version of Father Figure last night, and saw the famous
barrel o'blood scene for the first time. Cool! But weird--I always
thought it was a flashback, so it was a bit of a shock to see Nick doing
that in his apartment. Lucky thing for him that he had that barrel
someplace else when his loft was searched in Killer Instinct! I couldn't
figure out why he was wearing the notorious "poet shirt" either--perhaps
it was to act as a smock? It was sure clean, though--but I guess Nick
knows just how to remove those stubborn bloodstains...
Your very humble & most obedient servant,
Ligeia
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:43:19 -0500
From: "Berendt, Amanda" <Amanda.Berendt@a.......>
Subject: Fic question about TO
Hey -
I am working on a fic taking place at christmas time.... Where is a good place
to get a christmas tree? Like do the police have christmas tree lots, or at a
church (not preferred, considering Nick's condition)? If you can give general
location like a street or something that would be even better. I am looking
for something kind of near the University area.
Also, I have been to Eaton Centre several times, but can't remember the stores
(other than the Bay and Eatons - which is now JCPenney or something) what would
be a good store to buy really nice Christmas decorations (money not being a
problem)? If there is one not in the mall that would be great too.
Thanks! - please reply to debrabant_foundation@y.......
-Amanda
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:06:57 +0000
From: Phoebe Mead <ladyknight_2002@h.......>
Subject: 1-800-Missing
Hey guys just for anyone who doesn't know I seen a ad for 1-800-Missing last
night and it is Ger's episode it's on this Sat(11/8/03) at 10pm.
Love and Peace
Phoebe aka LadyKnight
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 11:41:55 -0500
From: Jeannie Ecklund <Gersknightlady@a.......>
Subject: Re: DVD - FK
I went to Fresno eysterday in CA and stopped into a Best Buy store. The had
one boxed set of the FK DVD's for $79 +. Wow!!! I got mine for about $24 from
Barns and Noble. Paid to order them ahead of time.
Jeannie
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:23:48 -0800
From: Maura Tremayne <admin@s.......>
Subject: Re: DVD - Not FK (The Breed)
--- Don Fasig <argent@c.......> wrote:
(sorry about the xtra email, Don)
Last night I was browsing the discount DVDs at Wal-Mart when I came across a
movie that seems designed to appeal to FK fans. It's called "The Breed" and stars
Adrian Paul (aren't most of us also Highlander fans) as a 'good' vampire cop.
I discovered this gem a couple years ago on ENCORE, back when I had cable...
*sigh*
Anyway, this movie strikes me as more of a glorified Masquerade game than
anything else. It's really well done for a B-movie, very dark and very existential
in a way. Beside the look, what I like about this movie is the scene - what's in
the background. The message that it gives while telling the story. It covers
some pretty heavy topics but still manages to keep a odd campiness about it.
Charaters named Lucy Westenra, Dr. Orlock, and Seward, added to the almost
communistic view of current society, give the impression that the writer(s) have
read a lot and have a great sense of humor.
I enjoyed it and I think anyone who likes Kafka, Brave New World, etc. would
also enjoy this film, with or without the vampires. (Who, by the way are
portrayed as VERY intellegent offshoots of humanity.)
Maura
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:38:12 -0500
From: mary combs <combsm@E.......>
Subject: Re: Extreme Trivia
Jean wrote:
> In "Dance By the Light of the Moon," the ID card with Nick's badge says:
> METROPOLITAN POLICE (over his picture)
> <Snip>
> Date -- Oct 1/90 SS# -- ______ (this is also blank)
Verrry interesting indeed! This gives us the exact timing of Nick joining
the force in relationship to his meeting with Nat !
> Hm. Didn't Nick later claim, when Larry Merlin had to
> create his identity in the computers, to have been born in
> 1957? His ID indicates it was '59!
> (Better get your stories straight, Nick!)
I've always read that little scene as Larry working his computer magic
first and *then* telling Nick what birthdate he'd been given--and Nick not
paying close enough attention to the year. <gr>
BTW, does Canada have "Social Security numbers" or is this another
Statesism mistake?
Mary
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:57:54 -0700
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: Fic question about TO
I'm not in Toronto, but I can answer some of your questions: Eaton's is
now Sears, but some locations have closed as a result of the takeover. A
good place in Canada to buy expensive ornaments would be Birks
(www.birks.com), Canada's most expensive jewelry chain --look for silver
and Swarovski crystal, that kind of thing. Seeing the famous Birks blue
box will certainly get any lady's heart pounding, even if it "just"
contains a Christmas ornament. And yes, there is a Birks at Eaton
Centre, according to their website.
Hope this helps!
Your very humble & most obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:12:05 -0700
From: Debbie <clanmom@t.......>
Subject: Re: Link of the gods
> http://lavender.fortunecity.com/wildbunch/241/fk/listmyth.txt
Is there anther way to get to this maybe? I tried it and it told me that...
In order for us to continue to provide our members with the first-class
service they expect, we don't allow people to link files from sites hosted
with other providers.
which, I suppose is a good thing for the members, but fairly frustrating for
those of us who aren't.
Thanks,
Debbie
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:52:58 -0600
From: Roman Gheesling <moonmage@s.......>
Subject: CaddyWhackers: 1961 Caddy model kits found!
Attention CaddyWhackers:
While searching for Caddy model kits on eBay, I actually found a pair of
1961 Cadillac model kits up for auction. These kits were dealer promotional
freebies from General Motors and manufactured by Jo-Han models. One kit is
painted black and the other kit is unpainted and was molded in turquoise
plastic.
I compared the auction pics with the screen caps on the CaddyWhacker web
site and the body styles match Nick's Caddy exactly.
As of this writing, the high bid is at $21.50 with 5+ days to go on the
auction. Since the 1961 Series 62 kit was never manufactured for the mass
market, instinct tells me that competition will be fierce amongst modellers
_and_ Forever Knight fans.
If I hadn't already bought two '59 Caddy Biarritz models as an acceptable
substitute, I'd be bidding (and keeping this information to myself :) ).
But something tells me this auction will quickly go out of my price range
anyway. . . .
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3153986066&category=2585
Working the Knight shift,
Roman
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:22:06 -0700
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: Extreme Trivia
Oops, sent this just to Mary by mistake.
> BTW, does Canada have "Social Security numbers" or is this another
> Statesism mistake?
We don't have Social Security numbers, we have SIN (Social Insurance
Numbers) instead. In Canada, SS# would have to stand for something else.
(I didn't even know SS# might be short for Social Security number.) And
a police ID would not have a SIN number on it--it is primarily used for
payroll, benefits, investments, and so on.
SS. Hmmm. Shooting Score? Social Services?
I was able to read Nick's police record off the screen at the end of the
ep with Larry Merlin for the first time with the DVD version. It was
cool to note that Nick had at least three commendations for bravery--and
probably more on the next screen(s) of info, which the audience didn't
see.
Your very humble & most obedient servant,
Ligeia
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:28:04 -0800
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Re: DVD(not FK)The Breed
I taped that when it was on cable...not sure if it
still airs on Starz or not...guess all a person can do
is check. I thought it was enjoyable, though a little
gory in a place or two, and probably yeah, kinda
campy.
Am I the only one who thinks Nigel Bennett might've
been good as Dr.Cross? I'm not sure why, but I just
could kinda see him in the role...
While I'm at it, those vamps are allergic to
silver...have we ever seen any FK vamps have trouble
with silver bullets or anything like that?
Mel, who found herself wondering if the contacts AP
was wearing in that flick weren't really similar to
the ones Nick/GWD wears in FK
=====
The trouble with immortality is that it tends to go on forever-Herb Cain
NNPacker, Natpacker, Knight of the Cross, Knightie /Duncan flag waver, Tessa
flag waver
Highlander-FK-Buffyverse group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/highlander-fk-Buffyverse
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