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FORKNI-L Digest - 13 Oct 2003 to 14 Oct 2003 (#2003-292)

Tue, 14 Oct 2003

There are 33 messages totalling 836 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Pondering (19)
  2. FORKNI-L Digest - 12 Oct 2003 to 13 Oct 2003 (#2003-291)
  3. Question?
  4. Intro- returning member
  5. DVDs!
  6. Hello all/fk yahoo group
  7. DVD question
  8. FK moment (3)
  9. pondering/ coats worn inside (4)
 10. DVD appears to be Canadian cut

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:06:11 EDT
From:    Judith Lieberman <JudithL21@a.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

i ofen wonder how the sit com people who dont seem to work always live in
apartments in Manhatton where rents run into the thousands, so they all have
hidden
fortunes like Nick?  JudyL

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:15:30 -0700
From:    Laura Davies <brightfeather1.geo@y......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

>
> > the laundry, dusting and vacuuming, etc. I think
> FK pretty much did
> > away with cooking, eating and cleaning up from
> meals, but then,
> > Natalie and other non-vampires must have to.

hm. It's my own personal theroy that Nick is a
different kind of superhero.  (If it weren't for the
flying thing, one could almost make a case for him
being Batman... or Superman's darker side ;) )Now, not
to decend into the gutter, (and what a lovely gutter
it is, too!) but one always has to wonder about
Superheros and bathroom needs.  Now, with all of the
liquid that vampires ingest (all that wine has to go
*somewhere*) one has to wonder how they managed before
the invention of indoor plumbing during daylight
hours.  <veg>

Laura (who really should be studying for tomorrow's
geology test)

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:15:05 -0500
From:    Lyn Palmer <wizkid2u@c.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 12 Oct 2003 to 13 Oct 2003 (#2003-291)

> Will the FK CDs arrive at my house on Tuesday? Or, will they ship on
> Tuesday

I've pre-ordered a lot of things from Amazon and it's been my great good
luck to have it arrive the day of release or the day after (Keep in mind
that I'm also only 75 miles from an Amazon warehouse).  They are usually
shipped out before release date, but they can't say that on their
delivery forecast....
On a completely different note, has ANYONE any information on Vanessa
St. Dennis?  She wrote several dynamite fan fics, but all of her email
addys are dead, and I'd love to contact her.
--LYN
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Some people are like Slinkies . . . not really good for anything, but
you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:27:24 -0400
From:    Arletta Asbury <g4akl@c.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

At 10:00 PM 10/13/2003 +0200, Doris wrote:
>I wonder what Nat told Grace the other morning and how she explained the
>missing body afterwards (I mean there were legions of people who knew
>about the 'bomb victim')?

That seems easily explainable to me.  Didn't someone describe Nick's
body as "goo" due to the bomb? (Sorry to be so gross.) If she had any
bags of donated blood left after Nick finished scarfing them down, Nat
could have poured one into his abandoned body bag and labelled it 'pipe
bomb victim'.

Arletta
who seems to have revived this thread but who *wanted* everyone to
rush to join the workshop mentioned in her 'writers site' post.

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:26:44 EDT
From:    DanaKnight@a.......
Subject: Re: Pondering

I've written stories where the characters have to deal with the daily
boringness of life. Either as the plot of the fic or as part of daily life
mingling with the rest of the story.

Lacroix learned a painful lesson in one fic where he tried to dine on a
mortal he shouldn't have.

Daily life isn't very interesting to read, unless it works with the plot, or
is the plot. That's probably one reason it's left out. And you don't need to
read every detail of daily life. I've seen fics that forget to give some of the
details, but not all the details.

As for TV and movies, the same pretty much go, but lately I've seen more
stuff set in kitchens and other places. Characters doing daily chores while
dealing with whatever the plot is.

Remember when there were no bathrooms? I've watched really old shows where
married couples couldn't sleep in the same bed, yet they always had at least
one pregnancy. Hard to do without physical contact. ;)

I think TV and movies go with the times. As we expect more realism, they
strive to provide it, so you're not distracted from the story.

I want to know why people can get the crap beat out of them, or just a bit
beat up, knocked out, etc and show either no signs of it, or just a little cut
or bruise. Maybe a broken bone if it's part of the story, or the actor's hurt.
 I know, the same reasons, no room for it in a tv show.

That was one thing I liked about MacGyver. He hurt when he hit someone, or
when he got hit. You could see that violence hurts.

I might just have to write another Daily Life fic, or two. Once I've figured
out which characters to use.

Judy

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:41:32 -0700
From:    Laura Davies <brightfeather1.geo@y......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

"i ofen wonder how the sit com people who dont seem to
work always live in apartments in Manhatton where
rents run into the thousands"

Yeah, and the stuff in apartments always costs more
money than the average person can afford.  I had a
friend who priced a lamp that was in an apartment on
her fav TV show.  The price was in the thousands!

Laura

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 19:33:18 -0400
From:    Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

>From: Lucilla <lucilla@c.......>
>>I wonder what Nat told Grace the other morning and how she explained the
>missing body afterwards (I mean there were legions of people who knew
>about the 'bomb victim')?
>
That's something that has puzzled me as well. Maybe Natalie didn't report
the body missing. Maybe she just filled out  an autopsy report.

But I agree It wouldn't just have ended there. Body or no body  the
investigation would have been ongoing.
  Since  Nick died saving someone's life  one would assume that they gave a
   description of him to the police.
   The news media would have been all over  the case.  A hero died saving
others.

I always thought it would have been fun if it were  Schanke's investigation.
  You  can see Schanke  working on it every once in a while  then  getting
mad at Nick  because he wouldn't help.

Debbie

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:06:59 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

Richard's her brother, the nasty evil guy was Roger Jameson.  Besides, she was
buying food for the cat, not for herself, so it still doesn't count.

                   -Megan

Liz the Lucky <luckyliz@c.......> wrote:
Nat *does* go to the store in Only the Lonely. 'Course, that's a plot
point, because she meets Richard the Rapist there, so it might not
count.


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:13:52 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

Anyone walking a well-lit road at night can't see much beyond the streelights,
and anyone walking a dark road has more pressing things to be watching out for
than vampires passing overhead!  My guess is that a person who *does* happen to
catch something flitting among the stars would stare for a moment, scratch
their head, then decide it must have been a bat.  (Maybe that's why Nick wears the
flappy long coat!)

                      -Megan

FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y......> wrote:
Back to FK...how do people not notice things like Nick
flying? Just because it's dark and they don't look up
much?

"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:54:49 -0600
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

As a birdwatcher, I have to say that it's amazing the things people
don't notice overhead in broad daylight! Hawks, pelicans, herons... And
more than once, I've been told that you can't see the moon during the
day. A lot of people just look at the street level, or at their shoes,
and never look up.

On the other hand, Nick should avoid birding hotspots--there are some
birders who enjoy looking for bats, owls, nighthawks, etc. In fact, owls
are a particular favorite of mine.

Your very humble & most obedient servant,
Ligeia

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:33:46 -0700
From:    Liz the Lucky <luckyliz@c.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

Megan sed:
> Richard's her brother, the nasty evil guy was Roger Jameson.

Hey, at least I didn't call him Robert, which is always my first
instinct. To many one time R-names on the show

> Besides,
> she was buying food for the cat, not for herself, so it still doesn't count.

There must've been something besides cat food in there. Cans don't
take up that much space, and if they do, they'd be much heavier. I
keep thinking there was a bagette in there, but that could easily be
from some other show.

--
Hugs and Kisses,
Liz the Lucky           luckyliz@c.......
http://www.mindspring.com/~luckyliz
Who is Will? And why is everyone firing at him?

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:35:57 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

> From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>

> And a "charge" on horseback is mostly conducted at a walk, so that the
> cavalry formation doesn't  break up. But in movies? Always at the
> gallop!

True. It's interesting to note that the British cavalry were famous for being
ill-disciplined---they would break into a gallop way too soon, lose their
formation, and end up being slaughtered by their opponents (it was said that, of
the pair, the horse had all the brains <g>). The Prussians, on the other hand,
wouldn't move up to a canter until the last couple of hundred feet. They were very
effective, unless they went against infantry formed up in square with bayonets
pointing outwards. Horses are way too sensible to charge against sharp pointy
things. <g>

FK tie-in? Hmmm---At LCA, Nigel told a funny story about the ep in which Lacroix
was pretending to be a Russian hussar. He was supposed to ride a horse down a
hillside amid explosions and fire, dismount, and then suck an injured soldier
dry. So there he was, sitting on a horse held by the handler, when all the
explosions went off and the horse bolted down the hill. Nigel hung on, and when
the horse stopped and he dismounted, he heard the director call, "I didn't say
'Action!'"

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@c.......

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:55:49 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

> From: Liz the Lucky <luckyliz@c.......>

> There must've been something besides cat food in there. Cans don't
> take up that much space, and if they do, they'd be much heavier. I
> keep thinking there was a bagette in there, but that could easily be
> from some other show.

Of course there was---that's one of the rules of grocery bags on TV. They must
always contain a baguette sticking out of the top.

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@c.......

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:30:07 -0400
From:    Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......>
Subject: Question?

Does anyone know if the Raven Awards are still active?  Is the submission
deadline still February 1st?

Deborah
http://homepage.mac.com/hymonb/ForeverKnight/

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:41:16 -0400
From:    Rose Warrington <misschaos@m.......>
Subject: Intro- returning member

Hi, all!
    I'm a returning member, and since I haven't been here in a thousand
years I thought I should introduce myself. My name is Rose. I'm a 28 year
old writer from New Jersey. I've been a Forever Knight fan since its first
airdate. I'm a proud Knightie, Cousin, and Vaquera. I was also the original
keeper of the ForKni-l birthday list. Shows how long it's been since I was
here last. LOL I've missed you all and for those of you I don't know, I look
forward to  getting to know you. I'm anxious to once again be an active
listmember. If there's anything else you'd like to know, feel free to ask.
Also, for any writers out there, there's a link to my MSN writer's group in
my sig, if anyone is interested.

Rose
misschaos@m.......
http://groups.msn.com/writingincircles- All writers WELCOME!!

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:34:04 -0400
From:    Emily Lacey <laceye@e.......>
Subject: DVDs!

I just got notification from DeepdiscountDVD that the FK DVDs I
ordered were shipped today! It shows that it is due to be delivered
on Oct. 22.
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@e.......

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:44:08 -0400
From:    Emily Lacey <laceye@e.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

>how do people not notice things like Nick flying?

I know this one. <G>
Tell someone to look for something and they will look in all
directions except up. Tell someone to look at the plane, and they
look straight ahead and up, not around and up. Tell someone to look
at the bird, and they look for a dead one in the street.
It's a funny thing about people, and fun to watch people react to
dead birds flying by. <G>

I imagine Nick himself could tell someone to look up at the vampire
flying by, and then take to the skies and never be seen.
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@e.......

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:40:12 -0700
From:    Megan MacLean <xena_goddess_of_war_99@y......>
Subject: Hello all/fk yahoo group

Hey there all! I joined recently and just thought I'd
introduce myself to everyone. My name's Megan MacLean
and I'm a 19 year old collge student. I first saw FK
two years ago and fell in love with it after the first
episode. (and am still kicking myself for not being
able to se it durning its original run)

I'm a Vaquera, Dark Perk, T/V Packer, NN Packer, Dark
Knightie and Nat Packer with Cousinly tendancies and
I'm a budding fanfic witer as well. (Got a fic posted
up on fanfiction.net) I've got a yahoo group that I
set up for those who like to write and/or beta read
fiction, if anyone's interested.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fk_writers_guild/


Thanks for letting me babble!

Megan MacLean





========
"A good friend will help you move, a really good
friend will help you move a body, and a really,
really good friend will help you dispose of it."
=======

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Date:    Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:42:32 EDT
From:    Shenandora DeWynst <Shenandora@a.......>
Subject: Re: DVD question

Boomer wrote:

> For those
> folks who ordered from Amazon, the FK DVDs will most
> likely arrive on Thursday or Friday of next week.

Anf for those folks from Europe who ordered from Amazon, the FK DVDs will
arrive at the beginning of November, so I was told by Amazon.

Heike

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:57:06 +0800
From:    ell hase <relliza@h.......>
Subject: Re: FK moment

Someone wrote earlier:

>I was flipping through the paper & found an ad for some musicial called
>"Forever Plaid"
>(It's actually a musical about the music of the 50's)
>I had this weird image of Nick & LC
>wandering around in these plaid suits

Worse - that message gave me a horrid vision of Nick and LC in a tag
wrestling match with the two "Highlander" Macleods - Duncan and Connor.
Argghh....

Ell

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:16:13 EDT
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK moment

In a message dated 10/14/03 3:58:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
relliza@h....... writes:

> >I was flipping through the paper &found an ad for some musicial called
> >"Forever Plaid"

Actually this reminds me more of Schanke, its not just about the 50's, its
about Catholic school.  The reference is about CS Uniforms I believe.

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:53:48 +0000
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK moment

MIchele wrote:

> Actually this reminds me more of Schanke, its not just about the 50's, its
> about Catholic school.  The reference is about CS Uniforms I believe.

"Forever Plaid" is one of those shows that lives forever in the community
theatre circuit, like "Tony and Tina's Wedding." "Nunsense," and "Triple Espresso."

It has nothing to do with Catholic school uniforms. It's about a singing group
called The Plaids who come back from the dead to perform their last, most
magnificent show. Here's the storyline from the Forever Plaid website:

******************************

Once upon a time, there were four guys who loved to sing. The out-of-fashion
and fictitious Plaids were lovable losers who met in their high school
audio-visual club and discovered that they shared an affection for music and
entertaining. So, they got together and dreamed of becoming like their idols --
The Four Aces, The Four Lads, The Four Freshmen, The Hi-Lo's and The Crew Cuts.
They rehearsed in the basement of Smudge's family's plumbing supply company. It
was there that they became FOREVER PLAID -- a name that connotes the continuation
of traditional values of family, home and harmony.

Although rock ‘n’ roll was racing down the fast lane like a candy apple
"‘vette," FOREVER PLAID believed in their music. They sang at family gatherings,
fund-raisers, and eventually graduated to supermarket openings and proms. They
supported their fantasy by holding down day jobs and after devoting nights and
weekends to their singing, they finally landed their first big break at the Airport
Hilton Cocktail Bar -- The Fusel-Lounge. Sadly, however, as they were en-route
to pick up their custom-made Plaid Tuxedoes, they were slammed broadside by a
school bus filled with teen-age girls on their way to witness the Beatles make
their U.S. television debut on the Ed Sullivan Show. They were killed instantly.

Through the Power of Harmony and the Expanding Holes in the Ozone Layer in
conjunction with the positions of the Planets and all that Astro-Technical stuff,
they have been allowed to come back to perform the show they never got to do in
life! But it won't come easy. Each questionably talented Plaid has a flaw, be
it jittery nerves, indigestion, a slight speech impediment or the inability to
tell his left from his right. Plus, they are shaken and confused by what the
fates have done to them, nervously eyeing the audience as they stumble about
trying to synchronize their clumsy choreography and uncertain four-part harmonies.

There's more to the show than just hearing well-sung versions of nostalgic
tunes. It's about pursuing dreams no matter the odds as the four-some undergoes
a transformation from bumbling geeks to confident performers. The audience will
join the singing actors on an engaging journey back to a more onnocent era when
chaperoned teen-agers sought dreamy-eyed romance at the high school prom.

*********************************

Nancy Kaminski
--
nancykam@c.......
www.nancykam.com

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:59:05 -0400
From:    Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

and what about all those women who think nothing of moving a body from one
place to another?

I don't know how many times I have seen that a character usually female
moved  a  body  (a dead weight, probably  fifty to sixty pounds heavier than
they are,)  out to their car,   stashed him in their  trunk, drove off
somewhere,    lifted the body  up out of their  and   then deposited him
several hundred feet away from their car.    Or in Tracy's case chipped a
hole through  what would have  been  frozen ground  judging from the coats
they were all  wearing in the episode  so she could  bury  Vachon.

All I can say everyone one in TV mysteries  works out a lot.

Debbie Clarke

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:11:50 -0700
From:    Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

--- Megan Hull <mistrydder@y......> wrote:

> Richard's her brother, the nasty evil guy was Roger
> Jameson.  Besides, she was buying food for the cat,
> not for herself, so it still doesn't count.

Isn't there an episode where she has a microwave
dinner cooking?

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:33:27 +0000
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

Debbie Clarke wrote:

> and what about all those women who think nothing of moving a body from one
> place to another?

That reminds me of the videofest I enjoyed at Jean Graham's house during the FK
in SD outing---we watched "American Psycho", which featured a tiny female
psycho murderer miraculously transport a very dead and very hefty William Shatner
from a second-story office to her car. Sadly we don't see how she worked this
miracle (ol' Bill must have weighed in at 300 pounds at the time, and she probably
was about 115 lbs) but it must have been a sight!

At least Ger didn't play the murderer in that little turkey. Instead, he played
a rather pompous but sweet psychologist.

Nancy Kaminski
--
nancykam@c.......
www.nancykam.com

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Date:    Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:13:12 +0930
From:    jennii35 <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

     Isn't there an episode where she has a microwave dinner
cooking?

       Yes, it was in Be My Valentine in the scene where
       Nick finally got around to kissing her

        Dot

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:55:38 -0400
From:    Tim Phillips <tim.phillips@a.......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

> Or in Tracy's case chipped a  hole through  what would have  been  frozen
> ground  judging from the coats they were all  wearing in the episode
        Part of how my brother and I paid for college was the cemetary
maintenance contract my parents got in our home town.
        I've literally buried a decent number of people and I'm always
amused whenever I see a grave dug or opened with a shovel on TV.
        A vampire might be able to open a grave in an hour by hand, but
anyone else is looking at hours of back-breaking labor.  It takes a
couple of hours just to fill in a grave, haul away the excess dirt
and reset the sods by hand.  And that is with a decent volume of the
hole filled by the actual concrete vault itself.

        As we've seen elsewhere, FK was not as concerned with the small
details.  If a scene made for a good dramatic moment, they just went
with it and tried to honor the story itself.

                Tim

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:55:41 -0500
From:    "Stone, Barbara" <STONEB@g.......>
Subject: pondering/ coats worn inside

Hmm, I never noticed that FK characters (or characters in other series) wore
their coats longer or more often than off-screen folk.  Interesting.... Let's
see now...

1.  Studios are generally pretty hot because of the lights.  Nick wouldn't care,
    because his body temperature would stay rather low anyway (I think).  His
    alter-ego might not have minded much because the coat was made of silk & had
    no lining
    (source:  video from one of the Gertherings).  Then again, they had that cheap
    building down by the railroad tracks.  Maybe it *was* drafty....

2.  Stage coats are expensive to make (all that silk?) and the people with the
    purse strings insist that they get a lot of use?

3.  The characters look really good in their stage coats and so wardrobe or
    directors want them to wear them (or the actors want to wear them)?  All
    that silk, unhampered by lining, flows so nicely--these coats are not at
    all like the stiff, stodgy things *we* have to wear.

4.  Somebody forgot to equip the precinct with a cloak room or coat tree?

5.  Everybody was so frozen after filming the outdoor scenes in the flimsy silk
    "coats" that they welcomed the opportunity to get as warm as possible during
    the studio shots.

6.  Nick needed to hide the bullet holes in his indoor wear.

7.  Too much money spent on paint, not enough on water coolers, clocks, and heat.

8.  Nick couldn't let anyone see how much he was spending on his clothing.
    Schanke didn't want anyone to know how little he was spending.

9.  Nat found the loft as chilly as Schanke thought the Caddy was. (OtL)

10. Tracy thinks wearing a coat all the time is more efficient.

B. Stone

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:09:08 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y......>
Subject: Re: Pondering

Maybe that's how the myth of vampires turning into bats got started.
That would make an interesting fanfic.  <g>

--- Megan Hull <mistrydder@y......> wrote:
(snip) My guess is that a person who *does* happen to catch something
flitting among the stars would stare for a moment, scratch their head,
then decide it must have been a bat.


=====
Emily M. Hanson
emilymhanson@y......
http://www.starbase-eprime.us

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:26:16 +0000
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: pondering/ coats worn inside

Barbara Stone wrote:

>     ego might not have minded much because the coat was made of silk & had no
> lining(source:  video from one of the Gertherings).  Then again, they had
that cheap building down by the railroad tracks.  Maybe it *was* drafty....

Actually, you see this mostly in the third season, long after the silk duster
bit the, er, dust. Ger is clearly wearing a black woolen topcoat and scarf in
many eps that looks pretty heavy. They seem to have done a fair amount of outdoor
shooting in that season, and the winter looked pretty darned cold.

> 2.  Stage coats are expensive to make (all that silk?) and the people with the
>     purse strings insist that they get a lot of use?

I think there was only one silk duster. All the rest were of more normal
material--oilcloth. Then there was the leather jacket, and that black topcoat.

I don't want to think about that blue zippered jacket from second season
<shudder>. Come to think of it, he never too that off in the office, either. (I'm
thinking of "Father Figure.")

Nancy Kaminski
--
nancykam@c.......
www.nancykam.com

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:32:30 -0400
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: pondering/ coats worn inside

In a message dated 10/14/2003 1:26:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
nancykam@c....... writes:

> They seem to have done a fair amount of outdoor shooting in
> that season, and the winter looked pretty darned cold.

I know they definitely did some. Greg "Screed" Kramer told me that he went with
the group when they shot the scene where Vachon is burying Screed. (Greg's not
the type who'd miss his own funeral, yah know). He said he ended up huddled in
one of the vans shivvering because it was so cold.

I went down to the site with Bons (we couldn't get Greg to go with us), and it
WAS FREEZING!

Libs

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:59:07 +0200
From:    Lorin <vachesang@1.......>
Subject: Re: pondering/ coats worn inside

Libratsie@a....... wrote:

> I know they definitely did some. Greg "Screed" Kramer told me that he
went with the group when they shot the scene where Vachon is burying
Screed. (Greg's not the type who'd miss his own funeral, yah know).

That must have been a very strange feeling, if Greg identified with
Screed's character at all.  I wonder what Catherine was
thinking/feeling, lying on the floor of the loft at the end of The
Episode Which Did Not Happen?

Lor

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Date:    Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:59:18 -0400
From:    mary combs <combsm@e.......>
Subject: DVD appears to be Canadian cut

> On 10 Oct 2003 I wrote:
> > Another check for Canadian would be in False Witness.
> > ...in the garage, after Nick says "I'm 800 years old, I know right
> > from wrong," and walks out of frame past Nat, she does a take and says "Do
> > you smell pina coladas?"

Don Fasig replied directly to me (I sent the original message to him) this
morning "This scene is on the DVD. Also the episodes (including credits)
are just a hair under 48 minutes long."

Hooray, hooray, looks like we have Canadian.

Mary
Mary Combs N&Npacker

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