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FORKNI-L Digest - 7 May 2003 to 8 May 2003 (#2003-134)

Thu, 8 May 2003

There are 22 messages totalling 796 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. OT -- Anti-Spam Devices
  2. Admin: NO OFF TOPIC POSTS MEANS WHAT IT SAYS
  3. my trash can is too efficiant
  4. FK on DVD Source of Info
  5. Science Fiction Weekly (at SCI-FI) Noticed a FK Letter
  6. Today's Birthday Addendum
  7. Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)
  8. Today's Birthday:  May 8
  9. Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)
 10. questions
 11. Moonlight Rising Convention
 12. FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)
 13. Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)
 14. FK Moment
 15. GWD in DNGG was Re: FK Moment (4)
 16. Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)
 17. FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)
 18. GWD in DNGG (2)

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Date:    Wed, 7 May 2003 14:03:09 -0700
From:    Adina Montgomery <adinaruth@e.......>
Subject: OT -- Anti-Spam Devices

Later this month, my ISP, Earthlink, will initiate new anti-spam measures
which may effect my ability to receive mail from this list temporarily.

For further information on what this involves, please read the following
article:

http://news.com.com/2100-1032_3-1000272.html?part=dtx&tag=ntop

Just sending this as an alert to the list mommies and daddies that this may
also effect other members as well as Earthlink subscribers.

Hopefully this will all go smoothly and I can receive my list mail
uninterrupted.  I also hope your ISP is doing something similar to cut down
on the annoying amount of spam mail we all receive.

Regards to all,


Adina R. Montgomery
Metaphors....Be With You

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Date:    Wed, 7 May 2003 17:13:50 -0500
From:    mclisa <mclisa@M.......>
Subject: Admin: NO OFF TOPIC POSTS MEANS WHAT IT SAYS

Just a reminder -- The rules for Forkni-l, which I post every Sunday,
include the following:

> 7. No off-topic posts are without permission from a listowner.  This
> includes virus warnings.

I don't see how this can be any plainer. NO OFF TOPIC POSTS -- THIS MEANS
ALL LIST MEMBERS!  -- UNLESS YOU HAVE ASKED ME OR DON FOR PERMISSION AND
BEEN GIVEN PERMISSION.

It doesn't say anything about marking a post OT: and going ahead.  We don't
have an OT: topic here and we don't allow that. I'm aware that other lists
do. This is Forkni-l. We don't.

If this becomes an epidemic again, I may set the posters to review. That
means that posts from that person go past Don for approval before they can
go to the list. Please, let's not make that necessary.

Thanks! Especially to the vast majority who are always within the rules. I
appreciate it and so do the other list members.

McLisa (Lisa McDavid)
"That will be trouble".
Listowner, Forkni-l and Fkfic-l
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Wed, 7 May 2003 22:28:15 +0100
From:    Kezia Hepden <kezia.hepden@b.......>
Subject: Re: my trash can is too efficiant

Yikes!  My turn to post something to the entire list instead of an
individual person.  Still, as the listmom on another list used to insist
when that happened, you're not really a member of a list until you've done
it at least once!

Cousin Kezia

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Date:    Wed, 7 May 2003 17:50:55 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@e.......>
Subject: FK on DVD Source of Info

For those who had doubts about FK coming to DVD, here's the source of the ad
shown at davisdvd.com. This should ease your doubts.

Posted at tvshowsondvd.com today:

5/7 Update: The source of this information is the back page of an
advertising insert that was included with the new release, The Greatest '70s
Cop Shows.

Just FYI....
Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

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Date:    Wed, 7 May 2003 18:50:23 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@e.......>
Subject: Science Fiction Weekly (at SCI-FI) Noticed a FK Letter

Hey all,

I just noticed something really cool. "Science Fiction Weekly" ran a FK
letter in their weekly newsletter (read by 1,000's) last April. It was mine.
:) You can read it here:

http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue311/letters.html

I just thought that was really cool....maybe Sci-fi will put FK back in the
near future. It would be really awesome if they put it back and advertised
the upcoming DVDs along with it.

Just thought I would share,
Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

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Date:    Wed, 7 May 2003 20:20:22 -0500
From:    eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday Addendum

Hi Y'all!

Just found out that today, May 7, is also the birthday of Liz the Lucky.
Her e-mail is  luckyliz@c....... if anyone wants to wish her a
Happy Birthday.

I hope you had a very Happy Birthday, Liz!

Terri
eowyn3@j......., eowyn@w.......
GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic  Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List
She can be taught!  But only in little bytes!

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 00:25:04 EDT
From:    DanaKnight@a.......
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)

In a message dated 5/4/03 5:07:44 PM, LISTSERV@l....... writes:


> > 3.  What is your fantasy outing with anyone from the FK universe (male or
> > female).
>

Hmm.... Spending a day with Nat. Not sure what we'd do, but I'm sure we'd
have a lot of fun. If she had to work, I'd help her out. This is tied right
up there with spending a day with Nick, or should that be night? I have no
doubt that I'd have a great time with Nick, unless he was in one of his
moods.

Staking Lacroix would be fun. ::ducks and hides::

Judy

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 06:17:19 -0500
From:    eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday:  May 8

Hi Y'all!

Today is the birthday of:       Susan Ellen Field       SField8067@a.......
AND
                                Anita K. Blake          AKBlake@l.......

You can send birthday greetings to Susan and Anita at the above e-mail
addresses. Please NOT to the list!

People who share birthdays on this date include:
Sir David Attenborough, TV Producer, TV Host, Scientist
Peter Bradford Benchley, Novelist; Jaws, The Deep
Don Rickles, TV/Movie Actor, Comedian
Bob Clampett, Animator; created Beany & Cecil, Tweety, Porky Pig, & Bugs
Bunny;
Ricky Nelson, TV/Radio Actor, Country-Pop Performer

Significant events on this date:
1541, the Spanish explorer Hernando de Soto discovered the Mississippi
River.
1794, the U.S. Post Office was established.
1886, Coca Cola was introduced by pharmacist Dr. John Styth Pemberton.
1964, President Harry Truman became the first former president to address
the Senate
     on the occasion of his 80th birthday.

I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Susan and Anita!

If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed) and e-mail address to me,
privately, eowyn3@j....... and I'll be glad to add you.

Terri
eowyn3@j......., eowyn@w.......
GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic  Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List
She can be taught!  But only in little bytes!

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 08:45:09 EDT
From:    Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@a.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)

>>Staking Lacroix would be fun :: ducks and hides::

Aaahhh!! You dare threaten Uncle!!  <THWAP!!>  Take that!


(Snickering)
Cousin Robin
robinchristine79@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 7 May 2003 23:06:59 +0000
From:    Amy Hull <amilynh@A.......>
Subject: Re: questions

re: wanting to follow Natalie around at work

Way back at TO Trek 94, a handful of us got a tour of the TO Coroner's office,
where I took notes.  I wrote a report that I posted at that time, and I've
attached the text following my signature to this messages, as it's been so long
that I suspect few remain who might have had opportunity to see it (with a
handful of notable exceptions).

Steph said:
> My husband taught microbiology to forensic pathologists.  My kids and I
> have a standing invitation to watch any autopsy we want.  I never have
> but always thought it would be interesting.

That does sound very cool.

>  I wonder if Natalie always
> want to be a pathologist or whether she made up her mind after she got
> to med school.  I don't remember if she ever said in the show or not.

We don't know.  That is one of the specific things I've wondered about aloud
with other fen, but like nearly all of the relevant details about Nat's life,
we have, sadly, no information.  We don't even know for certain if her parents
are still alive at the time of the show.  All circumstantial indications are
that they're dead (Richard seems to be her only living relation, given her
responses, and that she is the one who made all the arrangements for his
funeral), but, if so, we don't know for how long or how they died.  We know
when her birthday is June and she turned 30 in 1992 or 1993 (whether you take
the year it airs or the next June), that she met Nick 2 years prior on her 28th
birthday when she was already working at the coroner's office, that she had a
goddaughter....so little information.  Somewhere I have a list of all the
information we ever got and will try to find it if anyone cares to see what
I've got (so we could compare notes).

Amy
***
Toronto Trek '94 Reports
Club Med for the Dead
by Amy Hull

After TO Trek, several of us were planning already to stay longer in Toronto,
and Valerie Meachum called the Coroner's Office to see if they would give us a
tour, we never expected to get as much from them as we did.  She was directed
immediately to Jack Press, who seemed very entertaining over the phone; when
Valerie explained that we were from the US, he asked, "Oh, were you deported
from the States?"  From his too-quick "Never heard of it" response to the
mention of FK and the fan club, we were expecting to have silly tricks prepared
for us along fannish lines.  It turned out, though, that while he remembered
that the show "did some filming here," that was about the extent of his
knowledge of the show.

Jack Press himself turned out to be a retired police officer.  He spent 8 of
his 26 years on the Toronto force as a homicide detective.  His first advice to
anyone in general, and to officers and coroners he trains in specific is
twofold:  "Think dirty, and get the feel of the scene."  He kept encouraging us
to Think Dirty about everything; if something feels wrong or looks wrong, 90
percent of the time it *is* wrong.  This also applies to what he referred to as
people's "natural tendency to lie, withhold, or embellish" and to being
skeptical of anything said, to check out anything reported with a grain of
salt, because you *can't* really trust people.  He also talked about how as an
officer or anyone dealing with the scene of a death, the first thing you should
do when you arrive on the scene is stop inside the door and look around.  He
said that sometimes you would just stand there, getting "the feel of the scene"
for up to 10 minutes.

Nat with her sense of humor ("in like a sports car, out like a semi") would fit
right in at the Coroner's Office; they refer to it as "Club Med for the Dead"
and Mr. Press cited off some of the lines he's heard about the building:  "you
stab 'em, we slab 'em" and "you kill 'em, we chill 'em."  He referred
to "Freddie the Friendly Undertaker" being responsible for taking the bodies
away when the coroner is done with it.  His way of discussing the more
demonstrative suicides was to mention the folks "who jump out in front of a bus
and yell, 'surprise!'"  :-)  8-)  And he referred to the body bags (which are
now all white in Toronto) as the body's "plastic raincoat."  One scenario he
described included when "a car hits someone, they get air-mailed down the
street and get air conditioning in the middle of their head...."

The Coroner's Office there does an average of four autopsies a day.  The day we
were there they had 13 scheduled--three were from a building fire the day
before.  Most of the bodies come from Toronto--it *is* after all a city of 3
million people--but bodies also come from the entire province.  The ones that
come from far away are usually high profile homicides or "stinkers"--decomposed
or decomposing bodies.  The building there is also used to warehouse bodies
that must be kept, either as evidence or for identification purposes.  There
are about 8,000 Coroner's cases per year and they will probably autopsy 1100-
1200 a year.  According to Mr. Press, there are only 4 kinds of death:
natural, accidental, suicide, and homicide.  Nearly all of these must be
reported.  When you are trying to learn which of these types of death your case
is, the main six things you need to find out are:  1) who did it, 2) when did
they do it, 3) where did they do it, 4) how did they do it, 5) what exactly did
they do, and 6) why did they do it.  To do this, the investigators "walk
backward in the footsteps of the dead."  He mentioned that 85% of killers know
the person they kill; often when people kill it is in anger, and if there is a
great amount of force, such as bruising around a knife wound showing force that
shoved the hilt into the person's skin, that is usually indicative of anger and
therefore familiarity between the perpetrator and victim.

In Ontario, if the case is a homicide, the Team Leader of the murder
investigation is the Coroner.  The coroner orders autopsies and the detectives
who are working with the coroner on a homicide are actually, for that case,
working *for* the coroner.  (Yes, folks, this means that Nick is actually
working for and answerable to *Natalie* first....  :-)  I'm amused....like
that's difficult to accomplish....)  The police do have control of an obvious
homicide, but if the coroner is asked to investigate, it becomes the
*coroner's* case rather than a *police* investigation.  There is a thirty
member homicide squad in Toronto--a city where there are about 65 homicides a
year.  (Other interesting stats:  the average age of coroners and pathologists
varies, but the youngest pathologist Mr. Press could remember them having was
34; Toronto is a city of 3 million people, and more come in to work every day;
there are 110 traffic related deaths a year; there is a high suicide rate--one
in every four cases was a suicide; they don't use toe tags but rather just have
hospital bracelets; there are 8,000 people employed by the police department
and 5,500 of those are police officers; one of the full time police employees
is an artist who does composites and aging of missing people or missing
suspects; and TO has 19 police stations.)  If the case is a suspected homicide,
there will be a policeman present for the autopsy.  The Toronto office doesn't
use videos and tape recorders; they just record information gathered from
autopsies on pre-printed paper forms.

To be a coroner in Ontario, you must be appointed by the government.  Coroners
must be doctors, and they must apply for the position, they don't need a
specialty in forensics; if they need some information that would require
special knowledge of forensics, they can ask for help from the forensic
pathologists who work in the building directly behind the Coroner's Building.
The coroners in Toronto are mostly general practitioners and none of them are
full time; they spend a day or an afternoon or a morning doing coroner work
apart from their regular job.  The coroner will command an autopsy, but it is
the pathologist who performs the autopsy.  Pathologists also determine whether
tissue was healthy or unhealthy as part of their job.  The Forensic Pathology
aspect of the investigation includes the radiographer, photographer,
pathologist, and histologist.  The Forensic Science aspect includes biology,
chemistry, documents, firearms, and toxicology.

Identifying a body can be a tricky part of an investigation even if there is a
wallet with i.d.; it might belong to someone else.  It is a legal
identification when someone comes in and says, "Yes, that's so-and-so," so it's
important to be accurate.  The office does not bring someone in and unzip
the "plastic raincoat" to show the possible family/friends the body; they set
up a closed circuit video pointed at the dead person's face, and show the
possible friend/family member a closed circuit TV image in an adjoining room.
Mr. Press told us of one case where a woman came in, identified her husband as
a body from a car crash, but then called back later to say, "I think I was
wrong; that was not my husband."  They asked her why she had changed her mind,
and she said, "Well, because my husband just got home and he's *very* angry;
his friend borrowed his car, was supposed to pick him up, and never showed."

Checking the i.d. is one way to at least get a start on identifying the body,
but it is only used as a lead.  Bodies can be fingerprinted and run through the
files that are kept in Ottawa; all Canadian military, postal workers, and
police are part of that file, so there are a great number of folks who would be
identifiable just from having historically been in one of those organizations,
or from ever having been arrested.  They also identify bodies by their
coloring, by rings, watches, clothing, dental and x-ray records, glasses
prescriptions, or other things that would be specific.  Sometimes, when a body
is decomposed or mutilated sufficiently to be totally unrecognizable, the only
identifying feature may be a single irregular tooth.  Of course, to get the
person's dental records to try and make a match of what the coroner's office
has to what existed while this person was alive, they need enough to go on that
they can know to ask for the dental records of the correct person in order to
make the comparison.

Mr. Press showed us slides of an autopsy that were fascinating.  We saw photos
of them cutting open the person's abdomen and examining the various organs.
Mr. Press explained that one of the main things they do is to remove each organ
and to weigh it to make sure it is about the right average weight.  For
example, a heart should weigh about 400 g, and if they get one that is too
heavy, they will know that that person's heart was overworked and quite likely
the cause of death; one officer who died some years before our visit, and with
whom Mr. Press had worked, was a heavy smoker and drinker for years and when he
died, his heart weighed in at 840 g.  That kind of discrepancy between expected
average weight and actual weight of an organ usually indicates the cause of
death.  Interesting bits from the lecture, autopsy slides, and video:  men's
brains weigh more than women's; if someone drowns, there will be foam at their
mouth and if there is no foam, you know the person was dead before they went in
the water; heroin and cocaine dealers are always fighting for each others'
clientele and that causes a lot of deaths in Toronto.  The first thing that
happens when people die is that their blood settles to the lowest part of their
body, so if they die face down, the blood will settle into their face, abdomen,
chest, and fronts of their legs and cause what is called 'staining'.  This
staining begins about an hour after death, and rigor mortis begins to set in
after 6-8 hours--3 at the least.  After 12 hours, all the staining and rigor
mortis will be fully established.  So if someone is killed or dies while they
are laying on their back and they are left that way for a little bit and then
moved to a different position, it is easy to tell what position they were in
for the hour or two after death.

We learned lots and lots of neat stuff like this.  The slides of the autopsy
were *cool* (I think I was the only one quite that delighted with them; Lora
now has great reservations about my ability to define 'cool'.  :-)  )  Mr.
Press was wonderfully helpful, informative, and entertaining.  I know he said
other things I've forgotten, but I think this is quite long enough as it is.

Addition:  Rather later, Catherine Disher was asked about her prep for the
role, and she said she'd toured the Coroner's Office, and referred specifically
and tersely to Jack Press...who apparently had shown her the "floaters",
perhaps to get a rise out of her.

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 13:53:17 +0100
From:    Laurie Schlagel <lschlag@r.......>
Subject: Moonlight Rising Convention

Hello all,

Long time no speak!  Hope all is well ...

As those of you who know me know, I am now living in Wales. But I will
be attending the Moonlight Rising Buffy convention in Catskill, New York
from June 6 - 8. I will have a table in the dealers room.

Anyone who is attending, old friends and potential new ones, please stop
by and see me. I will also have some of my Forever Knight merchandise
(I've got an assortment left) with me.

Please reply OFF LIST to me at lschlag@r....... as I am set no
mail.

Cheers,

Laurie Schlagel
MercBard, Mercenary Guild Grand High Poobah

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 06:07:41 -0700
From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)

Hey, don't worry, you'd have at least one other person
with you. I'll take your side.

Mel, who's ducking the incoming thwap


> >>Staking Lacroix would be fun :: ducks and hides::
>
>

=====
FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross,Knightie, Natpacker/Highlander:Duncan
Flag-Waver/Due South Fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan
Forever Knight: The show that gives new meaning to the phrase "Take a bite out
of crime"

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 10:07:57 EDT
From:    Becky Hinson <bbhinson3@a.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)

In a message dated 5/8/03 7:47:02 AM Central Daylight Time, Cousin Robin doth
thwap:

> >>Staking Lacroix would be fun :: ducks and hides::
>
> Aaahhh!! You dare threaten Uncle!!  <THWAP!!>  Take that!

For shame!!  Threatening Uncle!!  *FWAPFWAPFWAP!*  This means war!

LOL
~Cousin Becky
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carpe DM --  Seize the Dungeon Master

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 10:51:04 -0400
From:    clarkcindy <clarkcindy@.......>
Subject: FK Moment

When I was leaving for Chicago to see GWD in DNGG this past weekend, I was
exploring the shops at the airport and found a branch of our local museum
store.  I got a good grin to start the trip, when I found "Knight" night
lights.  They are knights in full armor with shield of different colors that
light up.  They are a little expensive, but I think that's typical for
museum stores, and the proceeds help support the museums, so that makes me
feel better about spending a little extra.

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 11:28:21 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@M.......>
Subject: GWD in DNGG was Re: FK Moment

Cindy Clark writes:

>When I was leaving for Chicago to see GWD in DNGG this past weekend,

Tell us about the show, please! I can't be the only person who wanted to go but
couldn't afford the trip.

McLisa
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 12:30:47 EDT
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: GWD in DNGG was Re: FK Moment

In a message dated 5/8/03 11:36:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mclisa@M....... writes:

> Tell us about the show, please! I can't be the only person who wanted to go
> but couldn't afford the trip.
>

I too went to see DNGG in Chicago, I met with two people from the SFi BB list
and also three people from the GWDFC (tho I'm not a member) for dinner at
Bubba Gumps's on the Navy Pier.  Good time was had by all.

I saw the Saturday night and Sunday Matinee performances.  It was a very good
play.  Ger was in his element in this play, being a one man show was really a
love fest for him.  I ran into him on the way to the pub after the Saturday
night show, he signed a bottle of Ribena from my recent trip to Wales and
commented that he thought my Jacket (a rugby jacket with the Welsh National
Flag) was nice whilst rubbing my arm (sigh)

Oh.. back to the show,  I wanted to see this last year in Stratford (did
however see MFL), but did not get the chance so I was really excited to be
able to see 2 performances of it in Chicago.  Saturday night he was very
animated and wild, and being a Celtic Mutt (English/Irish/Scot/Welsh) and my
own relatives emigrating from south Wales, the subject matter held real
interest for me.  My sister read "Do not go gentle" at my aunt's funeral
years ago, and that was my first introduction to Dylan Thomas.  Since then
have read many of DT's writings but this play was of course, the best of both
worlds.

On to Sunday, his performance was more subdued, mainly because of the actions
of a "fan" in the audience.  I have posted this elsewhere but will relate it
here as well

T> >> his person at the play (obviously had seen it often enough to know the
>> script by heart) who Laughed very loudly BEFORE each joke Ger made,
>> commented on some of his lines, again, BEFORE he said them, and clapped
>> loudly at a most inappropriate moment, BEFORE the end of the first act,
>> causing him to flub a line. The sad thing is, I believe this person had no
>> idea how innappropriate and inconsiderate of Ger or the audience that
>> their actions were. I made a comment to one of the Ushers about it, who
>> said that they were told that they knew all "his groupies" would be there.
>> This person, by their actions, has come to represent the very worst of
>> what people think of Ger's fans.
>

Nuff said, some people should learn how to act when going to the theatre.

Michele

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 13:05:34 EDT
From:    Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@a.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)

> This means war!!

Hey, Cousin Becky, wanna steal Nick's remotes, and replace his cow with
Ribena? (Now I'm the one doing the ducking!!)

Cousin Robin
robinchristine79@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 13:07:45 EDT
From:    Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@a.......>
Subject: Re: GWD in DNGG was Re: FK Moment

> Tell us about the show.

Yeah, do tell! I couldn't go either. Just lived too far away!

Cousin Robin
robinchristine79@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 11:04:32 -0700
From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2003 to 4 May 2003 (#2003-130)

Now I can be the one doing the thwapping.
*thwapthwapthwap* hmmm *begins hunting around her
room* I don't have any water balloons, but I think
there is some usable fruit and vegetables in the
fridge.....*looks around for any large nearby object
to dive behind* Oohh waitaminute! I could go see if
Nat has any spare bags of blood in the morgue....(this
is already getting funny LOL)

Mel
>
> Hey, Cousin Becky, wanna steal Nick's remotes, and
> replace his cow with
> Ribena? (Now I'm the one doing the ducking!!)


=====
FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross,Knightie, Natpacker/Highlander:Duncan
Flag-Waver/Due South Fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan
Forever Knight: The show that gives new meaning to the phrase "Take a bite out
of crime"

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 11:17:06 -0700
From:    FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y......>
Subject: Re: GWD in DNGG was Re: FK Moment

I'm probably having the biggest temper tantrum up
here....I can't be more than maybe an hour from the
place with being in NW Indiana and I *still* couldn't
make it...mostly because I don't drive and didn't have
enough money or a way to get to the train station.

Mel



>
> Tell us about the show, please! I can't be the only
> person who wanted to go but couldn't afford the
> trip.


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Flag-Waver/Due South Fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan
Forever Knight: The show that gives new meaning to the phrase "Take a bite out
of crime"

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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 11:40:49 -0700
From:    Carla Martinek <copper@m.......>
Subject: Re: GWD in DNGG

--- FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y......> wrote:
> I can't be more than maybe an hour from the
> place with being in NW Indiana and I *still*
> couldn't make it...mostly because I don't drive and didn't
> have enough money or a way to get to the train station.

I didn't even *KNOW* about it!!!!  I must have missed
any postings about it.  I've been so busy, just
accepted an offer for a new job today (yippee!), and
here Ger was less than an hour away from me, too! (I'm
north of the City, near Great America.)

Well.. to be honest, I would have had a hard time
going, anyway.  My twins turned 5 on Saturday, so I
guess I had to be around. :-)  (and no, they're not
named Nick and Nat, although those names tied for
second place with Clark and Addison.)

-Carla



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Date:    Thu, 8 May 2003 20:26:17 +0000
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@A.......>
Subject: Re: GWD in DNGG

Carla wrote:

> I didn't even *KNOW* about it!!!!  I must have missed
> any postings about it.  I've been so busy, just
> accepted an offer for a new job today (yippee!), and
> here Ger was less than an hour away from me, too! (I'm
> north of the City, near Great America.)

Good news on the job, Carla! Is this the one with the FrameMaker template
problem? (OT for FK, on-topic for TECHWR-L <g>)

> Well.. to be honest, I would have had a hard time
> going, anyway.  My twins turned 5 on Saturday, so I
> guess I had to be around. :-)  (and no, they're not
> named Nick and Nat, although those names tied for

Sorry to have missed you. I waved in your direction as I zoomed by on I-90. And
for those of you who know about my obsession with my little green Del Sol,
Junior, this was his last road trip with me. He's faithfully taken me all over
the US and Canada in the last ten years, but it's time to retire him. Come
July, I'll be doing my zooming in a bright yellow and black Mini Cooper,
license plate MINIKAM.

Hopefully I'll drive MINIKAM to LCA in September to introduce him to FK fandom.
And while I don't think Nick would approve of the Mini in terms of trunk space,
it has lots of chrome and personality, which just might make up for it!

Nancy Kaminski
>--
nancykam@a.......
www.nancykam.com

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