FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 11 Apr 2003 to 12 Apr 2003 (#2003-108)
Sat, 12 Apr 2003
There are 26 messages totalling 783 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Vampire Cactus (and hair!) (2)
2. help? (2)
3. V4S (was Re: Asking permission) (5)
4. GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS) (5)
5. my FK moment
6. Another music question (7)
7. YKYBWTMFKW....or "What is Nick Doing Now?" (2)
8. Today's Birthday: April 12
9. GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS) - additional questions
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:20 -0400
From: Bonnie Rutledge <llamababe@C.......>
Subject: Re: Vampire Cactus (and hair!)
Cousin Tser wrote:
<snip>during Wars I am caretaker of Nick's Undead Cactus ... <snip>
... I don't remember how its previous
slaves -- er, handlers -- came by it. All that mattered to me is that
it needed love. *sniff* *cuddle* Owch!<snip>
During War 9, one of the few things I did during my brief stint as a
third of the Cousinly Cerberus was arrange a break-in of Nick's loft.
I took the beloved cactus, while some others pilfered the leather
furniture. The furniture was returned (Hrm, and, foggily, I think
someone had a quest to get the 'Apprentice' painting in there
somewhere. Universal truth: War is blurry. ), but the cactus - well, I
knew it would find a good home with you, Tser, so left it for you when
you took Cousinly charge circa War 10. That's why you get the burros,
the skunks, etc... Multi-celled organisms love you!
<waves>
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Bonnie Rutledge<------------Omnifemale Llama!
Lily's Cool Aunt!... llamababe@c.......
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:49:02 -0500
From: katrinka <katrinka@F.......>
Subject: Re: Vampire Cactus (and hair!)
During War 9, one of the few things I did during my brief stint as a
third of the Cousinly Cerberus was arrange a break-in of Nick's loft.
I took the beloved cactus, while some others pilfered the leather
furniture. The furniture was returned (
humm, the cousins never did return those furniture. You guys gave us
this white icky thing! Bluck! Next war the knighties of good would love
the leather back :)
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:44:59 -0400
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@A.......>
Subject: Re: help?
>I've just spent the last five minutes trying to get to Jarvinia's
>Lair and being told that it 'cannot be found'. Can anyone see if
>they can connect? Is she still at gryffonslair.com
As of last weekend she was there, but I can't get through now,
either, so it may not be the server. There seem to be a lot of sites
shutting down. Anyone know any updates for these sites?:
Elfin Productions Scrawlings (slash)
http://www.burble.com/elfin/
Erana's Fan Fiction Page
http://members.aol.com/Erana348/
AC Chaplin
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~acc2a/
Perriverse Publications
http://www.enteract.com/~perridox/
Xover Fan Fic Archive
http://xoverfic.com/
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:37:39 -0700
From: Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y......>
Subject: V4S (was Re: Asking permission)
--- Libratsie@a....... wrote:
< It can be a story based on V4S, but it couldn't be
an official "V4S" story as those followed a certain
procedure. >
I didn't realize that there were special guidelines
for V4S stories. Maybe that's why they are so slow in
coming out.
V4S left a lot of things hanging. Like if Thomas
knows about Nick, and the Nat/Thomas relationship,
etc. I would really like to read more of these
stories. I really like the new characters (Adam) and
situations.
Knight Ranger
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 21:42:13 EDT
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: V4S (was Re: Asking permission)
In a message dated 4/11/03 7:38:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
knightranger1228@y...... writes:
<< I didn't realize that there were special guidelines
for V4S stories >>
Yes, it isn't like "regular" fanfic where you just write a story, have it
betaed, and then it is posted.
First, you had to "pitch" the story anonymously to the V4S people at large.
It was debated - and sometimes cruely ;-) - then voted on. If it was turned
down, you could re-write it and resubmit it. If it was accepted, it went into
a pool of available stories. There's smaller "main" V4S committee, you might
say TPTB of the V4S, who'd then discuss which stories to "develope," where
they should be placed in the "season," etc.
Once a writer is told a story needs to be written, the writer submits a
THOROUGH outline of each scene. That outline is then discussed and torn apart
by TV4SPTB and the writer is informed of any changes that must be made. Then
the writing begins. The story, once written, is submitted to Alpha readers
who rip it to shreads. The writer rewrites it to those specifications until
TV4SPTB accept it. Then it is beta read, and the writer must then rewrite to
correct the beta problems. Only this is it posted.
Yes, it is ROUGH and the writer never gets to write the story he or she
originally invisioned. Some writers hate it... I happen to like it even when
told to make changes I don't agree with as that is a challenge in and of
itself.
Oh, and all the above is normally done under deadlines.
Libs
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:58:41 -0700
From: Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y......>
Subject: Re: V4S (was Re: Asking permission)
--- Libratsie@a....... wrote:
<< I didn't realize that there were special guidelines
for V4S stories >>
< Yes, it isn't like "regular" fanfic where you just
write a story, have it betaed, and then it is posted.
>
Wow! I didn't know you have to go through all that!
Maybe that is why its been so long since the last
story. But, I do hope they start it up again soon. I
really do miss them.
Knight Ranger
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e-mail: KnightRanger1228@y...... - or - KnightRanger4ver@y......
Geraint Wyn Davies Fan for Life! (GWDFC/GWDN)
Dark Knightie/Nick & Nat Packer/Caddy Whack/FOREVER KNIGHT Die Hard
BLACK HARBOUR Lobster Yacht Lot/Harbour Light ** -- GAIRWOLFpack -- **
GerII/Bridging/Indecency/Swindon98/NNP98/GerIV/Tucson99/Wolfville99/Wolfville01/GerVI/NNP02/Stratford02(MFL/DNGG)
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:11:33 -0700
From: Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y......>
Subject: GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS)
This post contains SPOILERS for HYPERCUBE: CUBE 2.
Please DO NOT CONTINUE if you have not yet seen
HYPERCUBE.
I watched HYPERCUBE on Sci-Fi again last night. On
the whole, I liked it. Of course, Ger was great.
But, as I was thinking about it, I came up with some
problems.
SPOILERS below
SPOILERS below
SPOILERS below
1.- When Ger comes back older near the end. All they
did was put grey in his hair and beard. His hair and
beard didn't grow. Did he find a barber in the cube?
2.- The big ending with the watch was a problem. If
the cube has all this time distortion, etc., why
would all the watchs be keeping the same time, which
is presumably
the current time outside the cube?
Knight Ranger
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e-mail: KnightRanger1228@y...... - or - KnightRanger4ver@y......
Geraint Wyn Davies Fan for Life! (GWDFC/GWDN)
Dark Knightie/Nick & Nat Packer/Caddy Whack/FOREVER KNIGHT Die Hard
BLACK HARBOUR Lobster Yacht Lot/Harbour Light ** -- GAIRWOLFpack -- **
GerII/Bridging/Indecency/Swindon98/NNP98/GerIV/Tucson99/Wolfville99/Wolfville01/GerVI/NNP02/Stratford02(MFL/DNGG)
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:25:23 -0700
From: Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y......>
Subject: my FK moment
I was looking through a book catalogue last night and
came across, "The World Atlas of Archeology" by Nick
Constable. I immediately thought that would be a
great name for Nick to use. After all, he had been a
police officer a few times. And with his love of
Archeology, maybe he did write it.
Knight Ranger
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e-mail: KnightRanger1228@y...... - or - KnightRanger4ver@y......
Geraint Wyn Davies Fan for Life! (GWDFC/GWDN)
Dark Knightie/Nick & Nat Packer/Caddy Whack/FOREVER KNIGHT Die Hard
BLACK HARBOUR Lobster Yacht Lot/Harbour Light ** -- GAIRWOLFpack -- **
GerII/Bridging/Indecency/Swindon98/NNP98/GerIV/Tucson99/Wolfville99/Wolfville01/GerVI/NNP02/Stratford02(MFL/DNGG)
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:33:19 -0400
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@A.......>
Subject: Re: GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS)
>I watched HYPERCUBE on Sci-Fi again last night. On
>the whole, I liked it. Of course, Ger was great.
Yes, he was. I'm not sure I liked the movie. I really DIDN'T like the end.
>1.- When Ger comes back older near the end. All they
>did was put grey in his hair and beard. His hair and
>beard didn't grow. Did he find a barber in the cube?
Time distortion. He was older, but it all happened in one minute, so
his hair didn't grow. Just before all that we saw the time was 6:05.
I couldn't understand why he kept saying he was hungry and then
killing everyone in a very bloody way. Was this alluding to his
several "vampire" roles?
>2.- If the cube has all this time distortion, etc., why
>would all the watchs be keeping the same time, which
>is presumably the current time outside the cube?
Why not? The watches were all inside the cube, so all the time
distortion would be acting on all of them. There was no way of
knowing about the time outside of the cube. It could have been days
to years later. But somehow, they knew when the cube was going to
implode in order to be there when it did. I don't believe all those
people would just be standing around in the building (?) where the
cube was just waiting for it to destroy itself on the off chance that
someone would survive.
And what was the necklace thingy all about? That must have been an
allusion to the first Hypercube. Did anyone see that to let us know?
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:34:37 EDT
From: Jeannie Ecklund <Gersknightlady@a.......>
Subject: Re: GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS)
Hyper cube spoiler
> I couldn't understand why he kept saying he was hungry and then
> killing everyone in a very bloody way.
I assumed he was eating the poor guy with the watch over and over.
Jeannie
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:41:21 -0400
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@A.......>
Subject: Another music question
I've established that Mr. Wyn Davies does indeed play the piano, and
very well, at that.
Now I've been wondering about Mr Bennett. Does he play a
violin/viola/rebec, or did he learn for the part, or did they dub in
someone else playing, or something else entirely?
Also, Mr. Bass. He was occasionally playing the guitar. Does he play,
did he learn for the part, or was that dubbed in as well?
I've been told that guitar is somewhat easily picked up. But I KNOW
that a violin/viola is NOT, and would expect a rebec to be equally as
difficult. (I tried to play 'cello for 5 years in my earlier years.
The entire city of Charleston was thrilled when I finally talked my
mother into letting me quit.)
I don't really know quite why I'm being so nosey about this...but
while I'm at it, does any of the other cast play any musical
instruments?
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 21:48:04 -0500
From: CLone Star Software <cstar@A......>
Subject: Re: Another music question
At 10:41 PM 4/11/2003 -0400, Emily Lacey wrote:
>Also, Mr. Bass. He was occasionally playing the guitar. Does he play,
>did he learn for the part, or was that dubbed in as well?
I believe I remember seeing a picture of him playing guitar with a band he
was in.
>I don't really know quite why I'm being so nosey about this...but
>while I'm at it, does any of the other cast play any musical
>instruments?
Deb Duchene is an accomplished pianist and I seem to recall that after she
left FK she was teaching music for a while.
Marci C
cstar@a......
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:51:45 EDT
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Another music question
In a message dated 4/11/03 9:40:13 PM Central Daylight Time, laceye@A.......
writes:
<< I don't really know quite why I'm being so nosey about this...but
while I'm at it, does any of the other cast play any musical
instruments? >>
Greg Kramer plays the piano professionally. He occasionally serves as the
accompanist for musical theater. If I recall, he really loves jazz improv.
Libs
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:06:52 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@y......>
Subject: Re: Another music question
Just out of curiousity, what about those scenes with
LaCroix and his lute (that was a lute, wasn't it?) Am
I right in thinking it was dubbed?
Mel
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 05:27:27 +0200
From: Doris=20Weiss?= <dorisweiss_2000@y......>
Subject: Re: V4S (was Re: Asking permission)
> V4S left a lot of things hanging. Like if Thomas
> knows about Nick, and the Nat/Thomas relationship,
> etc. I would really like to read more of these
> stories.
I am dying to know who sent Nick all those mysterious
presents and why. I really do hope that we get to read
more of this.
Luc
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"Even eternal life is too short to wait for a table." - Uncle -
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 23:45:35 EDT
From: "Lynn L. Sowinski" <Lls761@a.......>
Subject: Re: V4S (was Re: Asking permission)
Please excuse me as I'm sure this has been asked before, but where can I read
the VS4 eps?
Lynn
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:15:23 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@P.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFKW....or "What is Nick Doing Now?"
The day I see 'Nick's Cork Recycling' on a store front... THAT'S when my
head will really turn.
:)= Kyer
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 01:28:58 -0400
From: clarkcindy <clarkcindy@m.....>
Subject: Re: Another music question
Also, Mr. Bass. He was occasionally playing the guitar. Does he play,
did he learn for the part, or was that dubbed in as well?
When I saw him at Visions '96, he played guitar and sang blues for the
talent show.
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:09:01 +0200
From: Doris=20Weiss?= <dorisweiss_2000@y......>
Subject: Re: help?
Just letting you know that Jarv's page is down
temporarily. Have a little patience.
Luc
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"Even eternal life is too short to wait for a table." - Uncle -
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 06:43:13 EDT
From: Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFKW....or "What is Nick Doing Now?"
In a message dated 4/12/2003 6:20:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kyer@P....... writes:
> The day I see 'Nick's Cork Recycling' on a store front... THAT'S when my
> head will really turn.
I just got back from 10 days in the UK, where I had many FK moments.
Gwyn Davies Bakery, Nigel's Fine Mens Clothing, The NatWest Bank,
Knights Real Estate, Nigel Davies (hmmm even at my most UF, cant see
LC being the "wife"),
and my personal favorite, Nick Brain Hairdresser.
Michele
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 06:58:46 -0700
From: Cheryl <doughboy2C.......>
Subject: Re: Another music question
No. He really does play. Not professionally, but he does play very well.
Stay safe.
Cheryl Pillsbury
Doughboy2c.......
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:01:09 -0700
From: Cheryl <doughboy2C.......>
Subject: Re: Another music question
Yes he does, extremely well. I have his cd and it's fantastic. I may ware
it out. Stay safe.
Cheryl Pillsbury
Doughboy2c.......
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:05:29 -0700
From: Cheryl <doughboy2C.......>
Subject: Re: GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS)
The hypercube contained a 4th demention, it doesn't keep time but outside
would because it's only 3rd demention. Stay safe.
Cheryl Pillsbury
Doughboy2c.......
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:12:48 -0500
From: eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday: April 12
Hi Y'all!
Today is the birthday of: Karen Gunther KaAG@a.......
You can send birthday greetings to Karen at the above e-mail address.
Please NOT to the list!
People who share birthdays on this date include:
Nicholas Brendon, Actor: Buffy the Vampire Slayer's Alexander "Xander"
Harris
David Cassidy, TV/Stage Actor, Pop Singer
Vince Gill, Country Singer/Guitarist
David Letterman, TV Talk Show Host
Tiny Tim, Novelty Singer, Songwriter
Significant events on this date:
1811, first US colonists on Pacific coast arrive at Cape Disappointment,
WA.
1892, the portable typewriter was patented by George C. Blickensderfer
1981, the space shuttle Columbia, carrying astronauts Robert L. Crippen
and John W. Young, blasted off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, on its first
test flight.
1992, McDonalds opened its first restaurant in Beijing, China.
I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Karen!
If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed) and e-mail address to me,
privately, eowyn3@j....... and I'll be glad to add you.
Terri
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GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List
She can be taught! But only in little bytes!
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:17:32 -0700
From: Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y......>
Subject: Re: GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS)
--- Emily Lacey <laceye@A.......> wrote:
SPOILERS BELOW
SPOILERS BELOW
< Time distortion. He was older, but it all happened
in one minute, so his hair didn't grow. Just before
all that we saw the time was 6:05.>
Yes, I understand the time distortion, I know she had
just poked him in the eye. But, his eye was healed
and he was grey. If he had time to go grey, he had
time for his hair and beard to grow. And, he was
older and she wasn't. For her, it had only been a
minute, while it was a whole lot later for him.
< I couldn't understand why he kept saying he was
hungry and then killing everyone in a very bloody way.
Was this alluding to his several "vampire" roles? >
The blind girl did mention she was thristy. I think
they wanted to show that time was passing and they
were in the cube for a long time. I think they just
wanted someone to snap and go insane and it got to be
Ger.
< The watches were all inside the cube, so all the
time distortion would be acting on all of them. There
was no way of knowing about the time outside of the
cube.... But somehow, they knew when the cube was
going to implode in order to be there when it did.>
But, that's just my point. The watches were keeping
the time that was outside the cube. That's why the
people were there waiting. I think the watches should
have been affected by what was going on in the cube,
so on one would have know it was 6:00 or any other
time. And inside the cube, how many 6:06's would have
come and gone in the time they were in there.
< And what was the necklace thingy all about?>
I don't know about that. Why did she remember that
all of a sudden? She had been with that girl for a
long time and could have noticed it at any time.
Granted, I didn't notice it the first time, cause I
didn't know it would be important. Let's face it, the
story has some major plot holes. Also, it had been
cut for TV. I'm waiting for my uncut video and DVD to
arrive. It may fill in some holes. I still think it
was an interesting movie. Especially on human
behavior.
< ...an allusion to the first Hypercube. Did anyone
see that to let us know?>
I saw the original CUBE. It was different. The rooms
moved as well as the people. It was like a rubic
cube. Each room was a different color and had a
different trap, like acid, or knives, etc. Maurice
Dean Wint (FK's "Francesca" & ROBOCOP:PD) was in it.
And I think Nicole de Boer (FK's "Dark Knight 1/2) was
also in it. There was no necklace thing in it. The
only reference to the first one was when Phillip Akin
said something like, "Phase two is complete".
Knight Ranger
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Geraint Wyn Davies Fan for Life! (GWDFC/GWDN)
Dark Knightie/Nick & Nat Packer/Caddy Whack/FOREVER KNIGHT Die Hard
BLACK HARBOUR Lobster Yacht Lot/Harbour Light ** -- GAIRWOLFpack -- **
GerII/Bridging/Indecency/Swindon98/NNP98/GerIV/Tucson99/Wolfville99/Wolfville01/GerVI/NNP02/Stratford02(MFL/DNGG)
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:39:31 -0700
From: Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y......>
Subject: Re: GWD in HYPERCUBE (contains SPOILERS) - additional questions
SPOILERS BELOW
SPOILERS BELOW
The watch conversation made me think of another
question. Jerry had the only watch. Simon/Ger had
the knife and photo of the girl. Sasha had the
necklace. The General had his ID. The physics guy
had the pen (which Kate took). Susan had her work ID
badge (which Simon collected along with the watches).
What did Kate, Max, the lawyer (Lindsey Connell), and
the senile lady have?
Knight Ranger
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e-mail: KnightRanger1228@y...... - or - KnightRanger4ver@y......
Geraint Wyn Davies Fan for Life! (GWDFC/GWDN)
Dark Knightie/Nick & Nat Packer/Caddy Whack/FOREVER KNIGHT Die Hard
BLACK HARBOUR Lobster Yacht Lot/Harbour Light ** -- GAIRWOLFpack -- **
GerII/Bridging/Indecency/Swindon98/NNP98/GerIV/Tucson99/Wolfville99/Wolfville01/GerVI/NNP02/Stratford02(MFL/DNGG)
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