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FORKNI-L Digest - 24 Nov 2002 to 25 Nov 2002 (#2002-344)

Mon, 25 Nov 2002

There are 4 messages totalling 169 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. break (2)
  2. Unreality TV
  3. FK Vamps and Pain (a bit long)

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Date:    Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:15:20 -0600
From:    DPHEIL <dpheil@a.......>
Subject: break

I looked at the TV schedule &
it didn't have any FK on it

I went to the Scifi.com site & found this on the schedule

20-NOV  10:00 AM     FOREVER KNIGHT    DYING FOR FAME
21-NOV  10:00 AM     FOREVER KNIGHT    ONLY THE LONELY
22-NOV  10:00 AM     FOREVER KNIGHT    UNREALITY TV

16-DEC  10:00 AM     FOREVER KNIGHT     FEEDING THE BEAST
17-DEC  10:00 AM     FOREVER KNIGHT     IF LOOKS COULD KILL
18-DEC  10:00 AM     FOREVER KNIGHT     FATAL MISTAKE
19-DEC  10:00 AM     FOREVER KNIGHT     1966
20-DEC  10:00 AM     FOREVER KNIGHT     LOVE YOU TO DEATH


 . . . . 3 weeks without any FK???

:(  :(  BUMMMEERRRR :(  :( :(

I hope everyone survives

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Date:    Sun, 24 Nov 2002 20:12:35 -0800
From:    phylis sullivan <phylis_s_2000_2001@y.......>
Subject: Re: break

 DPHEIL <dpheil@a.......> wrote:
I looked at the TV schedule &
it didn't have any FK on it

. . . . 3 weeks without any FK???

:( :( BUMMMEERRRR :( :( :(

I hope everyone survives

Auugghh!!!!  I saw that.  At least it comes back.  ;}  Phylis


Phylis (Knightfilli) N&NPacker, Knightie, Dark Knightie
"Vampire is not a career choice."  Bart Simpson
email: phylis_s_2000_2001@y.......
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Date:    Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:05:01 -0800
From:    Viv <viv11374@y.......>
Subject: Unreality TV

There are 2 things about this ep that really confuse me.
1) How come when Nick gets shot there are no bullet holes in his
jacket and shirt?
2) Why didn't LaCroix just kill the photographer himself before
the enforcers got there, thus ensuring that he and Nick wouldn't
get in trouble? We know he has no qualms about comitting murder.


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Viv

Don't annoy the crazy person

Life's a witch and then you fly

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Date:    Mon, 25 Nov 2002 13:16:29 -0800
From:    "D. K. Kraft" <cat@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK Vamps and Pain (a bit long)

Molecular biology and vampires...what fun ;-)

       My take on this is that FK vampires, due to the engineering of their
symbiotic retrovirus (The Fix), enjoy a very high pain threshold due to huge
levels of dopamine in their systems.  Dopamine is the compound generated at
the end of a biochemical cascade, and is primarily responsible for a) blocking
pain receptors, and b) generating the physical sensations of a "high," whether
it be from endorphin-generated exercise or a narcotic such as heroin.  Thus,
common mechanical trauma--such as stabs, bullet wounds, losing a limb,
etc.--barely registers on an FK vampire's pain scale.  Any pain being
generated by their systems is simply blocked by their dopamine levels, which I
postulate are directly related to how much blood--as encoded by what was
ingested at the time of first hunger--is consumed on a regular basis (and
we've already seen that there is a positive chemical feedback loop at the time
blood is ingested as well--the blood "high").

       It follows then, that when blood consumption falls off, or consumption
of blood of a lesser match to what an FK vampire initially consumed at first
hunger--e.g. Nick and his supply of bovine--the level of dopamine would fall
and common trauma would in turn cause more of an expected pain response--e.g.
when Nat is digging out the bullet from Nick's back (I forget the episode
name).  I speculate, however, that the dopamine level in a given FK vampire
must be extremely high, so that it would take a extended period of time for
that vampire to reach anything near what the average human being would
experience from a gunshot wound.  In addition, that level of dopamine also
guards against shock, which is the primarily cause of death from traumatic
injury.

       Now, burns are not, from both a medical and molecular point of view,
considered common mechanical trauma.  Tissue hasn't been torn, ripped, or
lacerated, it's been melted; the proteins of the tissue have been denatured,
just like when you cook an egg.  This is more than basic damage, since the
very substance of the tissue has been altered to an unusable state for the
body.  Burns cause a different cascade of chemicals and receptors to activate
in the body, one of which is generated by the damaged ends of nerves within
the tissue.  I don't recall the specific mechanics, but I do know that this
biochemical causes *intense* pain, in order to generate the proper healing
response from the rest of the body.  The usual endorphin/dopamine cascade in
response to that pain does take place, but it doesn't have the same impact as
it does with common trauma, due to the fact that protein damage has taken
place.  This is why burns hurt like hell, in comparison to mechanical
injuries.

       I postulate that FK vampires experience considerable (from a human point
of view) pain from fire, sun, and holy water, because these items cause burn
damage--they melt vampiric tissue and denature the proteins.  Given that a
burn, if severe enough and on a human being, can damage tissue permanently
(e.g. no healing of the damaged area at all--it remains "melted," or
denatured), including the associated nerves, it seems reasonable that FK
vampires would be vulnerable to burn injuries.  It could also be a limitation
of the viral symbiote, that it can handle common trauma but not burn damage,
simply because the damage is not mechanical but molecular.  I personally don't
consider such a limitation to be "cheese" per se, because it requires an
*incredible* amount of resources for a human body to heal even a small, first
degree burn.  FK vampires, after all, are not indestructible nor invulnerable.

       Now the wooden stake through the heart thing...  I'm still working on
that one, with a formative theory that it's some kind of anaphylactic shock,
since the mechanical trauma certainly wouldn't cause death.  I'll post on that
after further research. ;-)


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