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FORKNI-L Digest - 26 Jun 2002 to 27 Jun 2002 (#2002-190)

Thu, 27 Jun 2002

There are 20 messages totalling 519 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. blood program
  2. Sons of Belial (11)
  3. Burbon? (3)
  4. Red Green & FK (2)
  5. Embrace the Darkness Re-vamped
  6. YKYBRWTMFKW
  7. Admin: McL is off list

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:23:19 -0700
From:    Nathalie <kleinemaus@c.......>
Subject: Re: blood program

> > I was just wondering--does anyone besides me think >>that the FK vamps
would have been even more glued >>tothe screen than I was during that show
about blood >>on PBS this past Sunday?

> This must have been the vamp equivalent of the Food
> Network. <g>


Which means that despite any vamps best effort, they would have inexorably
been drawn by it, even though their intention was to watch something else .
. .

Cousin Nathalie
kleinemaus@c.......

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:08:08 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: Sons of Belial

This has always been one of my favorite episodes, because my mother was a drama
major and always talked about acting techniques when something like this came
up.  (No she doesn't know about FK.  She'd freak.)  Anyway, I just keep thinking
over and over, 'Jeez, this must have been a fun episode to shoot!  I wonder how
many times they had to re-do that sceen to make it realisitc?'
As for the words, I rewound the tape a dozen times until I understood what was
being said.  If the script isn't anywhere, I could hunt up my tape and write
them down.
                              -Megan
 Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......> wrote:
I have been unable to understand what he is saying when LaCroix takes
him to be exorcised. He speaks so quickly that I can't keep up.


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:17:52 -0700
From:    Wolfy <wolfyknight@y.......>
Subject: Burbon?

 Sending out mass request.. (sorry iffen you get it a few times) anyone have any
photo's of this Burbon charactor?
What ep's is this charactor in?
did I spell the name right? <grin>
Any and all graphical finding help will be very much loved.


~Wolfy Knight, GWDFC member, Ger5 attendee,
Forever Knight fan, Dark Perk, ex-aol'er, Rainbow Knight.
AIM:Iamwolfyknight
E-mail:Wolfyknight@y.......

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:18:56 -0700
From:    Wolfy <wolfyknight@y.......>
Subject: Re: Sons of Belial

Two words: closed captioning...
<grin>


~Wolfy Knight, GWDFC member, Ger5 attendee,
Forever Knight fan, Dark Perk, ex-aol'er, Rainbow Knight.
AIM:Iamwolfyknight
E-mail:Wolfyknight@y.......

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:29:02 -0700
From:    Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......>
Subject: Re: Sons of Belial

From: "Emily Lacey" <laceye@a.......>

> I watched this morning and once again think that Mr. Wyn Davies is
> just a bit TOO good an actor.

I watched SoB when it played during the marathon.
I noticed something in the last scene at Van Der Wahl's
that I hadn't before, and I couldn't stop giggling.  Who
knew the Crusades had a dental plan?

<g>
Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:52:59 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: Sons of Belial

 All right, I'm confused.  What did you see?
                        -Megan
  Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......> wrote: I watched SoB when it played
during the marathon.
I noticed something in the last scene at Van Der Wahl's
that I hadn't before, and I couldn't stop giggling. Who
knew the Crusades had a dental plan?


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:49:33 -0400
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <llamababe@c.......>
Subject: Re: Burbon?

Wolfy asked:

<snip>What ep's is this charactor in?
did I spell the name right? <grin>
Any and all graphical finding help will be very much loved.<snip>

It's 'Bourbon,' and he appears in the flashbacks of 'My Boyfriend Is A Vampire'
and 'Hearts of Darkness.' Nothing is established in the series as to whether
Bourbon is alive in the present day/night. The description of the character in
the 3rd season bible is: "BOURBON - French. A 16th century Musketeer. Arrogant.
Does arbitrage now. A complete asshole."

I have a few old screen captures at
http://www.geocities.com/~br1035/fk/crew.html and one Bourbon sound file at
http://www.geocities.com/~br1035/fk/sounds/sounds.html

I haven't seen much Bourbon fanfic. He appears in Bonnie Pardoe's 'Sangria,'
I.B. Screed's 'In Me Own Words,' and gets lots of coverage in my 'Words and
Meaning.' All of these fanfics are available at http://www.screedwashere.com. I
also used him in 'Survivors.' He's really one of my favorite minor FK characters
to use, along with Thomas, Francesca, Feliks Twist and, of course, The
Inka/Inca.

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Bonnie Rutledge<-------------------------------Omnifemale Llama!
Lily Angelina's Cool Aunt!......... llamababe@c.......
   "I am the Diaper Genie!" "No, *I* am the Diaper Genie!"

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:08:42 -0400
From:    Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: Sons of Belial

>  All right, I'm confused.  What did you see?
>                         -Megan

<G> Mr. Wyn Davies has no fillings...at least on top.

Now, would one of the historians on the list please educate us about
dental hygiene of the early to mid 1200s? Would he, as an upper class
lord, have had the possibility of having all his teeth in good
condition, or would this be something that the 'vampire virus' would
cure when he was brought over? He would be depending on his teeth for
the rest of his un-life...
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:07:45 -0700
From:    Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......>
Subject: Re: Sons of Belial

With the camera angle on Ger as he's strapped to the
table being from the POV of above his feet, you get
a lovely view of some rather anachronistic dental
work.  Maybe instead of having their teeth restored
when they're brought across, vampirism just gives
them fillings. <g>


Havarti, thanks,
Laurie of the Isles

----- Original Message -----
From: "Megan Hull" <mistrydder@y.......>

> All right, I'm confused.  What did you see?
>                         -Megan

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:32:58 -0400
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <llamababe@c.......>
Subject: Red Green & FK

I'm rewatching 'Dance By The Light of The Moon' when it hit me - the manager of
Jilly's Exotic Dancing is played by the actor who is Harold Green on 'Red
Green' - Patrick McKenna! And confirming it on IMDB, apparently he's in 'Spin
Doctor' too! Golly!

Maybe this is the Ratpack's secret duct tape connection...

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Bonnie Rutledge<-------------------------------Omnifemale Llama!
Lily Angelina's Cool Aunt!......... llamababe@c.......
   "I am the Diaper Genie!" "No, *I* am the Diaper Genie!"

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:38:56 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Burbon?

Bons wrote:

> I haven't seen much Bourbon fanfic. He appears in Bonnie
> Pardoe's 'Sangria,' I.B. Screed's 'In Me Own Words,' and gets lots of coverage
> in my 'Words and Meaning.' All of these fanfics are available at
> http://www.screedwashere.com.

I wrote a story with Bourbon as the bad guy---it's called "Deadly Stakes" and
can be found on my archive at:

http://www.nancykam.com/fanfic/nancy/nkfic.html

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:41:43 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Sons of Belial

> Megan Hull wrote:

> As for the words, I rewound the tape a dozen times until I
> understood what was being said.  If the script isn't
> anywhere, I could hunt up my tape and write them down.

I have a copy of the script, but I don't know what part exactly you're referring
to. Give me a lead-in line from Lacroix or Vanderwahl, and I'll be happy to tell
you what the script says.

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:29:45 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@e.......>
Subject: Re: Sons of Belial

I was not able to understand this particular part either, but I did find a
quote from a site some time ago:

"De Brabant has been many people, all of them murderers. They are inside,
restrained by some sickening moral conscience. They want to be released,
they want to kill again."

That's the main part I didn't fully understand until reading it on the
internet.

Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

.
> I have been unable to understand what he is saying when LaCroix takes
> him to be exorcised. He speaks so quickly that I can't keep up.

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:21:48 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@e.......>
Subject: Embrace the Darkness Re-vamped

Hi everyone!

"Embrace the Darkness," my Dark Knightie page, has been re-vamped! Just
click the new banner for it off my main index. I hope you like the new
design and, as always, feedback is welcome (please sign the guestbook). I
also created a new Nick wallpaper, called "Feel the Darkness" to fit the
theme of this update.

I have plans to re-vamp the Immortal Beloved page soon as well.

Good Knight and Good Bite,
Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:56:38 -0700
From:    Beverly Collins-LaCroix <beverlylacroix@w.......>
Subject: Sons of Belial

<<Sons of Belial
I watched this morning and once again think that Mr. Wyn Davies is just
a bit TOO good an actor. I always feel a bit antsy with his portrayal of
demon possession.
I have been unable to understand what he is saying when LaCroix takes
him to be exorcised. He speaks so quickly that I can't keep up. Does
anyone have the script and would be willing to either e-mail me that
part off list, or tell me where I can find it on the internet? I thought
I had the scripts on-line, but I can't find them.>>

This is one of my all time favorite episodes.

It was done so good, I think I've watched it 109 times.  The way they do
the exorcism gives me goosebumps, the flashing back and forth from past
to present, it crescendos.   Love the episode.

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Date:    Wed, 26 Jun 2002 02:17:30 -0400
From:    "S. Babbitt" <sbabbitt@b.......>
Subject: Re: Sons of Belial

Wolfy wrote:
>Two words: closed captioning...
><grin>

But you can't rely *too* closely on FK closed captioning <g>. I've spotted
some highly amusing goofs. My personal favorite: In the opening scene of
Dead Issue, where the lovers are groping and gasping, the woman says, "Last
one [gasp] undressed is [gasp] a rotten sardine." The original line is
silly enough--does anyone besides me find the concept of rotten sardines to
be rather less than erotic?--but the closed caption declares: "Last
one...I'm dressed as a rotten sardine."

Now, of course, I can't watch the ep without imagining the character in a
sardine costume...think land sharks (for those of us old enough to remember
Saturday Night Live when it was still funny...)

--------------
Stephanie Babbitt (sbabbitt@b.......), Atlanta, GA
Vaquera (Because I Can), MadNatter, N&NPacker
Nobody Dies. Nobody Ever Died.

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Date:    Thu, 27 Jun 2002 06:40:13 -0700
From:    Lady Ariake <lady_ariake@y.......>
Subject: Re: Red Green & FK

--- Bonnie Rutledge <llamababe@c.......> wrote:
> I'm rewatching 'Dance By The Light of The Moon' when
> it hit me - the manager of
> Jilly's Exotic Dancing is played by the actor who is
> Harold Green on 'Red
> Green' - Patrick McKenna!

Lol, the first time I saw the name on a list of actors
who'd been on FK I immediately thought "Harold!"  But
I never knew who he played.  Now I'll have to dig out
my tape and watch it again!  (Darn, what a sacrifice.
;) )

Hee...oh, yes, that's right, it's the 27th...tonight I
go see Steve Smith (Red Green himself) live and
in-person for the Mt. Pleasant, MI showing of "Red
Gree: Duct Tape Forever!"  Better break out the
flannel and Red Green fishing vest.  (Our local PBS
was #4 in the country during the Red Green pledge
drive, and as one of the top ten, we get a showing
with a personal appearance.  (Okay, so I didn't pledge
here.  I pledged down in DC to Maryland Public
Television--didn't even managed to break the top 30.
People in DC just have no appreciation for the finer
nuances of Red Green.)

=====
"If you're going to have delusions of grandeur, go for the really satisfying
ones."  (Marcus Cole, Anla'shok, or my life motto.)

"...In all things trust the Weyrfolk, for their cause is just and true."

http://www.geocities.com/northrangesweyr

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Date:    Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:29:16 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: YKYBRWTMFKW

You know you've been reading about/watching too much FK when you seen an article
about a cow falling on a car (I'm totally serious!), and you can't help but
wonder what Nick's reaction would be if it had been the Caddy.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1551/3020954.html

=====
Emily M. Hanson
Homepage - http://www.geocities.com/hansone.geo/index.html
My Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.com

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Date:    Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:38:07 -0400
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: McL is off list

Now that I'm finally back to my pc, I see I messed up the address on my note
to tell Forkni-l I'd be offlist. I have iritis (inflamed iris) and although
it's now better, I still have limited vision. I'm back a work and need to save
my pc use for my job.

If you need help, please write to Don, argent@c......., and put the word
help in the subject line.

McLisa

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Date:    Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:27:16 -0400
From:    Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: Sons of Belial

>I have been unable to understand what he is saying when LaCroix takes
>him to be exorcised.

Thanks to everyone who has helped me on this. The part I couldn't
understand was:

N: [whispering urgently] I have revived, revived the vampire's taste.
I have revived the vampire's taste for death. All this goodness in
him, it has been driven out. I will be with him forever. [He lunges
up, but LaCroix grabs him and holds him down. He goes back and forth
between present and past.]

Now that I know what was said, it adds a new dimension to his
possession, as well as why Natalie's influence had the effect it did.

>  The way they do
>the exorcism gives me goosebumps,

That's the part that bothers me. They did it a bit too well. It
scared me the first time I saw it, especially knowing that Mr. Wyn
Davies is the son of a minister.

I'm appreciating the episode more now, but I'll admit that there are
others I enjoyed more.
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......

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