FORKNI-L

FORKNI-L Digest - 15 May 2002 to 16 May 2002 (#2002-146)

Thu, 16 May 2002

There are 17 messages totalling 478 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Columbia DVD - Phone/E-mail Blitz (4)
  2. new series (10)
  3. (Fwd) Re: today's epside (Faithful followers)
  4. FK Fanfic Awards---Administrative Notice!
  5. Nick as Fashion Victim and Tank Girl

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Date:    Wed, 15 May 2002 17:29:22 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Columbia DVD - Phone/E-mail Blitz

Hi everyone,

This month we are having a phone/e-mail blitz to Columbia DVD, the only
place with real power to put Forever Knight on DVD! E-mail and call to let
them know how much you want this series on DVD...

Call: 1-800-457-0866

E-mail: dvd@c.......

Please let me know if there are any helpful responses from either of the
above. Thanks to all who participate.

Let's get the Knight on DVD!
Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

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Date:    Wed, 15 May 2002 18:28:02 -0400
From:    Brian <bwaichu@c.......>
Subject: Re: Columbia DVD - Phone/E-mail Blitz

Okay, I sent a message.

Any other authoring houses that can pick-up the rights?

Brian

> This month we are having a phone/e-mail blitz to Columbia DVD, the only
> place with real power to put Forever Knight on DVD! E-mail and call to let
> them know how much you want this series on DVD...
> Kristin

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Date:    Wed, 15 May 2002 17:27:38 -0700
From:    Sherri C <sherric@e.......>
Subject: Re: Columbia DVD - Phone/E-mail Blitz

At 18:28 5/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Okay, I sent a message.
>
>Any other authoring houses that can pick-up the rights?

Anchor Bay Entertainment indicated to me that they were going to try and
get Forever Knight... but that was a year ago (of course, they had intended
to release Nick Knight on dvd last December, and it was held up for some
"reason out of their control", and will release next year, I guess...)



Sherri                          sherric@e.......
"...freedom is not free, for in times of darkness, in the fires of war,
freedom is forged of iron, iron oft quenched by the blood of the innocent,
a terrible price to pay. Yet to let evil rule is even more costly."  (from
"Into the Fire" by Dennis L McKiernan)

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Date:    Thu, 16 May 2002 12:56:03 +1200
From:    Knightraven <kiwisun@i.......>
Subject: new series

Now that it has been a few years since the original cast parted ways, what
are peoples thoughts about a new cast? or spin off of Forever Knight?

I for one would like to see a NEW series brought up to the standard of say
Angel and Buffy on the engineering side of things.
I think the basic plot and characters are all worth redeveloping in some
form. Cameos for old cast maybe?
Lacroix popping in now and then?

Thoughts. Ideas?

Kylie
http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/knightraven
Raven Awards : http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sharkyl/

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Date:    Wed, 15 May 2002 23:39:38 -0400
From:    Lee Anne Brown <leebb65@h.......>
Subject: Re: new series

Hello all;

I don't answer often, but this is interesting.  A new series could be built
around Miklos and the patrons at a bar in some anonymous city.  Could be
anywhere in the world... should be anywhere in the world, even if it is shot
in Canada or New Zealand (land of Xena, international hit) That way, anyone
from anywhere and any when can show up.

But, I've also be particular to Joe Reese.  He was very underused.  Any
thoughts there.

Lee Brown


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Date:    Wed, 15 May 2002 21:13:14 -0700
From:    StormBorn <thestormborn@m.......>
Subject: Re: new series

I don't particularly want a new series, but how about Nick, turned mortal
and living with Natalie, having to constantly deal with members of the
Community and other 'denizens of the dark'?  Just call me a lover of irony,
folks. <g>

Molly/StormBorn
thestormborn@m.......
"It's not fair!"  "You say that so often.  I wonder what your basis for
comparison is?" -Sarah and Jareth, Labyrinth


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Date:    Thu, 16 May 2002 01:22:27 -0400
From:    Don Fasig <phase3@g.......>
Subject: (Fwd) Re: today's epside (Faithful followers)

This message forwarded on behalf of "Loreal" <Llavigna@n.......>

------- Forwarded message follows -------
From: "Loreal" <Llavigna@n.......>
Subject: Re:      Re: today's epside (Faithful followers)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 00:27:44 -0400

It's the same way with me. I can tell if a tv is on and muted orthe sound
down, and I can tell when a video camera is running. It's really
interesting, especially when nobody else around you can hear it and has to
rely on their other senses like sight to know if something like that is
turned on. I like it because it annoys my family. They still insist that I
can see and have been pretending to be blind for 20 years. LOL!

Loreal
http://home.nycap.rr.com/llavigna/

"Megan Hull" said:
> He wouldn't have had to see them.  Some people (me, Rose, and Chrisi,
> to name a few) can literally hear electronic equipment when it's on.

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Date:    Wed, 15 May 2002 21:54:44 -0700
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: new series

--- StormBorn <thestormborn@m.......> wrote:
> but how about Nick, turned mortal
> and living with Natalie, having to constantly deal with
> members of the Community and other 'denizens of the
> dark'?

How about Nick being back with LaCroix and Janette and
the series chronicling their adventures through the night
and throughout the world? Call me diehard Dark Trinity or
something.

On another note, if I were to vote for a new series, I'd
say yes to a new cast, but no to new characters. I like
my FK to be about Nick and LaCroix and Janette and all
that. Anything else would be like any other vampire show,
right?

Sunny

=====
Countess -- Twilight Knightie,IB,DT,UF,Cotk

"Trudging through enternity, hauling my homemade horrors, do you think THAT was
my dream when I was young and evil?"

                           -Mommy Fortuna, The last Unicorn

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Date:    Wed, 15 May 2002 22:05:52 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: FK Fanfic Awards---Administrative Notice!

Hi, All---

I'm sure you're all busy reading the finalists in the 2001 FK Fanfic Awards!
Remember, voting is now open and will remain open until June 12.

This note is to let you know that I will be out of town from the 16th to the
20th on a short visit to Tucson. Any concerns you may have about the awards will
be answered when I return, but for the duration I'll probably be out of touch
(unless my friend lets me use her computer).

Thanks for all your support, Nancy

========================================
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......
Participate in the 2001 Forever Knight
Fan Fiction Awards: www.nancykam.com
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Date:    Thu, 16 May 2002 03:24:34 -0400
From:    Brian <bwaichu@c.......>
Subject: Re: new series

After just seeing the new Star Wars, let's not have another FK series.
Re-inventions are usually scary; e.g. Angel.

Brian

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Date:    Thu, 16 May 2002 03:26:04 -0400
From:    Brian <bwaichu@c.......>
Subject: Re: Columbia DVD - Phone/E-mail Blitz

I just received Nick Knight on DVD about a month ago.  It's out there,
ya just gotta follow the FAQ thingy that was posted here some time
ago to order it.

And, I must say that the music in Nick Knight is horrible.

Brian


> Anchor Bay Entertainment indicated to me that they were going to try and
> get Forever Knight... but that was a year ago (of course, they had intended
> to release Nick Knight on dvd last December, and it was held up for some
> "reason out of their control", and will release next year, I guess...)

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Date:    Thu, 16 May 2002 08:53:35 -0700
From:    Nathalie <kleinemaus@c.......>
Subject: Re: new series

Hi everybody!

<<Now that it has been a few years since the original cast parted ways, what
are peoples thoughts about a new cast? or spin off of Forever Knight>>

Well, I've honestly got to say that I could live with a spin-off better than
I could live with a new cast, I think. Watching other people play these
characters would be a little weird for me . . . I keep thinking "so-and-so"
could do a better job acting that than this person . . . as for a spin-off .
. . I liked Sunny's idea about Nick being back with LaCroix and Janette and
the whole adventure chronicling thing . . . actually, I'd also like the idea
of going back to before the time of Forever Knight and looking at their
adventures then (I'm sure that there's a lot we didn't get to see) . . . i
think a new cast for that wouldn't be as painful . . . as for a series not
involving any of the old cast . . . well, that could be about anyone
couldn't it, but we'd have to see how they tied into the old cast . . . I
don't know . . . I'd like to see more about LaCroix and his interaction with
other characters but then that could just be because I'm a cousin and
everything . . . and now I'm just rambling, and i should really get working
on my book . . . later everyone!

Cousin Nathalie
kleinemaus@c.......

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Date:    Thu, 16 May 2002 09:06:21 -0400
From:    Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: new series

> Now that it has been a few years since the original cast parted ways, what
> are peoples thoughts about a new cast? or spin off of Forever Knight?
>
> Thoughts. Ideas?

        Do it like they did Star Trek.
        New Cast, new situation in the details.  Keep the same basic
world for the characters to play in.
        I wouldn't try to remake FK.  The original cast can't be
assembled (my opinion) and I wouldn't want someone else in those
roles anyway.
        If you kept the same story-telling concept of flashbacks, there
is no reason that every member of the original casts couldn't do guest
appearances in a new program called Eternal Night.
        I think a television show would only be made if there were
some conceptual changes.  I don't think a vampire cop living in LA is a
good idea.  The concept has already been used enough.
        I would shift things around to take advantage of the changes in
episodic television the last few years.
        Create a definitive story arc that traces a central vampire
character across 3-5 years of their life.  One idea would be to start the
title character as a willing vampire.  Then have something cause them
to start seeking redemption, then follow them as they search for the
light.
        The key is story.
        Television studios are comprehending that people will return to
a show time and again to be engaged by the story.
        If you got the right person driving the thing, you could have a
show with the  same fanatical following as X-Files, Babylon 5, 24.....

                Tim

     Tim Phillips
     Systems Developer II
     802-241-3420    timp@d.......
     "Databases Are the corporate memory
     of the Enterprise.  All the rest
     is anecdotes"

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Date:    Thu, 16 May 2002 10:25:05 -0400
From:    Portia Eins <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: new series

The actors were all great, and I really can't conceive of anyone else playing
Don Schanke, but the *characters* are just so...darn intriguing!  I think, with
a lot of luck and brillance, a new series could explore the old characters and
give us something worth watching.  But it would take a *lot* of luck.... sigh.

I guess what most attracts me to FK is the concept of this *800* year old guy
struggling with these overwhelming issues *and* with the day to day issues with
which we all struggle.  And how he is the core of all of these fascinating,
complex relationships:  L/N/J, L/N/N, L/N, N/J, N/N, J/N/N, S/N/N, N/T/V, ad
infinitum!  And though I used the "slash," I don't really mean to imply just
sexual connections -- I just don't see Nick and Schanke that way! "g"  Take the
UF, which doesn't just focus on a potential sexual relationship between two of
the main male characters; there is all the fascination entailed in a tangled
bond between two guys who have known each other for *800* years!  The
master/vassal ties, the father/son ties, the teacher/protege' ties, the bonds of
friendship AND emnity, and so much more to boggle the mind.  Nick's background
and moral complexity are the catalysts for so much of the conflict and the
exploration of the series.  And, again("g"), *800* years of history to explore!
Pretty cool.  Rick's Nick's 400 years(?) just seems to pall next to that. "g"

So, we could have another series in the FKverse, but would we find any other
characters so addictive, so fascinating, so....*satisfying?*  Joe Schmoe, the
Irish guy brought across during the Potato Famine who now works as a fireman;
Jenny Penny, the Arabian courtesan who's now runs a home for troubled teens;
Dark ol' Ivor, who used to rule the Russian steppes, who now runs a cut-throat
corporate conglomerate -- and they all hang out at bar named "The Crimson
Cavalier," where everyone knows almost all of their names?

I just don't know.
Portia

On Wed, 15 May 2002 21:54:44 -0700 Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
wrote:

On another note, if I were to vote for a new series, I'd say yes to a new cast,
but no to new characters. I like my FK to be about Nick and LaCroix and Janette
and all that. Anything else would be like any other vampire show, right?

Sunny

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Date:    Thu, 16 May 2002 10:29:41 EDT
From:    WRDRR@a.......
Subject: Re: new series

In a message dated 5/15/02 8:55:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kiwisun@i....... writes:

<< Lacroix popping in now and then?  >>

Doesn't he always?

Casting T. F. Stone  / Caddywhacked
My FK book length at
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/deangelo_wanda/  and
V4S story
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/virtual_season/by_the_book.txt
and yes, I'd appreciate comments.

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Date:    Thu, 16 May 2002 10:36:19 EDT
From:    WRDRR@a.......
Subject: Nick as Fashion Victim and Tank Girl

All,

So I am watching Tank Girl and Malcolm McDowell is wearing these VESTS that
reminded me oddly of Nick's infamous 2nd season vests.  So I checked the year
the movie was made - you guessed it: 1995!
Somebody else thought long vests were totally hep and high style that year,
too.  A trend that clearly appeared suddenly and disappeared all in one year.


Casting T. F. Stone  / Caddywhacked
My FK book length at
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/deangelo_wanda/  and
V4S story
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/virtual_season/by_the_book.txt
and yes, I'd appreciate comments.

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Date:    Thu, 16 May 2002 10:57:43 -0400
From:    Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: new series

> So, we could have another series in the FKverse, but would we find any other
> characters so addictive, so fascinating, so....*satisfying?* >
> I just don't know.

        I'd bet that when StarTrek: Next Generation aired, there were a lot of
people who "didn' know" either.

        "What?  No Vulcans?"
        "And where is Bones?   He made the whole show!"
        "My God!   The Captain is Bald!  And British!   And doesn't carry a
phaser slung down low where he can reach it quick!"
        "And What Quichee eater put a Counseler next to the Captain?  Is this
Star Trek or a Therapy session!"

        I know the folks on this forum would give anything carrying the Forever
Knight flag forward a fair chance - you are all a very adaptable bunch with a
lot of open minds.
        I believe a show can be written that is as entertaining and has many of
the same draws.  Just look at how many fan fiction stories have been written
that introduced new main characters or played in very "odd" ways with the main
characters.
        The format is adaptable in skilled hands.
        In the end, I think everyone on this group would like the chance to see
me PROVEN right or wrong.  (the only way to prove me wrong would be to create a
new FK television show and broadcast it.... who wouldn't want that :-)    )

                Tim



     Tim Phillips
     Systems Developer II
     802-241-3420    timp@d.......
     "Databases Are the corporate memory
     of the Enterprise.  All the rest
     is anecdotes" Tim Phillips
 timp@d.......

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