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FORKNI-L Digest - 24 Oct 2001 to 25 Oct 2001 - Special issue (#2001-322)
Thu, 25 Oct 2001
There are 31 messages totalling 1004 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. FK Board games (6)
2. Question of the week
3. vampire psychiatrists/psychologists
4. Janette Ain't Misbehavin or Is she? (4)
5. Location help
6. I Have a New Question For You <g> (2)
7. FK Board Games
8. Episode List? (5)
9. OT: Harry Potter signed book or fan club
10. [KoC] OT And the Winner of the GWD/AP "Tracker" Tape is (drum roll
<g>)........
11. Tongue in cheek
12. New intro (6)
13. OT: Harry Potter signed book or fan club & Yet Another Question <g>
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:02:49 EDT
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: FK Board games
In a message dated Wed, 24 Oct 2001 4:54:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Patty
Costantino <psmoot43@h.......> writes:
> What board or card games would each of our FK characters pick as their game
> of choice?
>
Screed - Mousetrap
Libby
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:07:18 -0400
From: Jan Gagliano <Jan@u.......>
Subject: Re: FK Board games
HI FK Fans:
Can't just lurk and let this go by. Patty wrote:
What board or card games would each of our FK characters pick
as their game of choice?
LC: Risk, the game of global domination!
Natalie: Operation
To which I reply:
Nick: "Klew", of course ;-)
Jan in Lansing
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:26:56 -0700
From: Michelle <mlp9@d.......>
Subject: Re: FK Board games
>What board or card games would each of our FK characters pick as their game
>of choice?
>
>LC: Risk, the game of global domination!
>
>Natalie: Operation
>
>Just to name two! Any ideas?
Hmm...
Schanke: Yahtzee (not sure why...I just can picture him playing it)
Nick: Sorry!
Tracy: Candyland
Vachon: Solitare
Screed: Mousetrap
~Cousin Michelle
<mlp9@d.......>
"That is brilliant. Twisted, but brilliant."
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:28:59 -0400
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: Question of the week
>The Tudor monarchs at least seem to have worn embroidered nightgowns,
>unless my memory deceives me, <g>
Henry the VIII had a handsome collection of embroidered nightshirts...
Charles V, is noted in the costume histories as being shown in bed wearing
some kind of garment (previously royalty--including the three Magi--had been
portrayed in bed with just their crowns).
We know that it wasn't only the upper classes who practiced this, from
information ranging from the sad records of places that sheltered the poor
and more amusing sources, such as repeated complaints about servants who
infuriated their mistresses by getting into "bed," stripping off their
shirts in undercover and then and slapping out the candle with their shirts,
instead of blowing out the candle and groping their way into bed in the
dark. And we have descriptions of royalty roused from sleep for urgent
business swathing themselves in the nearest thing available, often part of
the bedclothes.
By the 1600s, gentlemen and ladies slept in night smocks and ordinary folk
slept in the same smocks they wore during the day. The aforesaid gentlemen
and ladies might own one from one to 2 dozen of these night garments.
Yes indeed -- and Nick had been a vampire for 257 years when the first Tudor
monarch came to the throne.
> In any case, I'm not saying that medieval noctural nudity didn't occur --
> I'm sure it did! ...They would have it that the behaviour of some, becomes the
> behaviour of all -- when that would clearly run counter to common
> sense. <g>
Sorry, there's no disputing the fact that the custom in Nick's time was to
sleep in the nude. This isn't the opinion of one historian, but scores, and
it's based on concrete research.
The role of good historians is not to say "that's how we would have done it
if we'd been alive then, so that must be how they did it" but to ask "what
does the evidence tell us about what people alive then actually did?" One of
the great changes in the approach to research since the Victorians first
became enthused about medieval and Renaissance life (making many false
assumptions) has been research based on much more than surviving images of
the time, descriptions from contemporary fiction, and the correspondence of
the great. Examination of such mundane things as legal documents--wills and
household inventories and accounts, court proceedings, records of
punishments and penances, advice and instructions descriptions on managing a
household and behaving properly.
"Common sense" has very limited use as a tool for learning about human
lifestyles in different places and times. For one thing, one era's common
sense is another's folly. For another, factors such as custom, fashion,
economics and sometimes even law often have a greater affect on what people
do than practicality. The history of style and fashion--particularly that of
footwear, headgear, corsetry and codpieces, furniture testify to that. Why
do human beings (both men and women) endure discomfort and sometimes
significant pain and danger to dress and live "comme il faut," to use a
phrase that Janette might offer?
Covering an open wound with a poultice made from animal excrement or other
materials we know to be toxic defies our common sense, but actually
conformed to common sense of other times.
LaCroix probably has a collection of diatribes about humanity's demonstrable
lack of common sense. Janette probably shrugged her shoulders and enjoyed
the fashion current in the place they were staying, knowing that she
wouldn't have to endure a morning-after headache from an unwieldy headdress
or swooning from tight lacing.
There was no common-sense reason for women not to wear the undergarments
that Nick would have known as braies and we would call undershorts or
underpants. Yet women went naked underneath their dresses well into the 19th
century, when drawers (two separate legs tied onto a waistband so the center
was open from fore to aft) became respectable.
There was no common sense involved in the rigorous and centuries-old idea
that men and women must wear hats or headcoverings to be properly dressed.
President Kennedy showed up without a hat at his Inauguration and sounded
the death knell for that requirement for men. It took a few years more for
the "hat and gloves" standard for women to melt away. The demise of the
necktie, a completely symbolic piece of clothing, is frequently anticipated
and reported but still hasn't happened. And the girdle (a girdle by any
other name is still a girdle) is back.
We can use our common sense to come up with practical reasons for sleeping
in the nude when Nick was alive (the time period in question)--We have
Nancy's vivid description covering the warmth issue. We could also add the
need to let the shirt dry out overnight, the need to reduce wear on the
garment at a time when linen was in short supply, to avoid chafing--we might
even theorize that clothing confined vermin (lice, bed bugs) to the skin.
But if we had actually asked Nick or his family why they did it, they would
probably have said "because that's the way it's done."
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:34:17 -0400
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: vampire psychiatrists/psychologists
Laurie wrote:
> There's also "Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs" an FK/Frasier xover
> by Susan (KC) Nix which can be found at www.fkfanfic.com.
And there's also a very well-written and moving post-Last-Knight story about
Janette that indicates that she has taken up that role for the Community. I
hope someone else remembers who wrote it and what the title is, because I
can't for the life of me recall.
Mary
mcombs@e....... N&Npacker
http:\\www.erols.com\mcombs
"RL=Real Life. It's that stuff that keeps happening that gets in the way of
that other stuff."--Sue Clark
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:36:01 EDT
From: WRDRR@a.......
Subject: Re: Janette Ain't Misbehavin or Is she?
In a message dated 10/23/01 1:17:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
egmccann@t....... writes:
>>Janette is *not* a good girl by any standard Western Civilization
definition. > Good girls make cookies...never, ever express an
opinion>contrary to a man's.> Methinks you have an old definition... circa
1950-early 1960s. >>
Methinks that becoz you are a guy, you don't hear this stuff directed at you.
My neighbor's husband refuses to pick up anything from the grocery store on
his way home because that's woman's work. He makes her go back out. ***AND
HE WORKS AT A GROCERY STORE.*** My girlfriend works at a residence home
where, shall we say, the residents are often incontinent. The one man that
works there always says, he won't clean up because that's woman's work. One
of my friend's husband always leaves the laundry *next* to the laundry
basket, not *in* it because that's woman's work. I get calls at work, "may I
speak with the Pharmacist? Oh. Well, but isn't there a *man* there??" My
girlfriend had to get picked up by an ambulance while she was on her way to a
party and the ambulance driver gave her a hard time because "what are you
doing going out to a party without your husband?" None of this is happening
in 1950-60. This is right now.
Part of the attraction of Janette as a character (besides the fact that she
has a fabulous wardrobe) is that she is a *bad* girl, as I explained. She
does everything that properly socialized girls don't do.
<< Never ever express an opinion contrary to a man's? I'd say there's
something wrong there, not that she's a "good" girl.>>
Well, sure it's wrong. Again, you're a guy. You've never had men talk over
you, interupt you midsentence, dismiss you from a conversation or insult you
(and your gender) to your face. Good girls yield. Good girls make nice.
Listen to how women speak when they do speak up. They add enough qualifiers
and apologies to sink a battleship. I really kinda sorta think that if you
really want to do that that maybe you might want to think or consider maybe
we could try that?? A properly socialized girl apologizes for asking at all.
I have friends who are very forthright around me, but who completely change
personality around men. They suddenly become wishy washy and apologetic.
There are varying degrees of this, of course. The more education and
authority a woman has in her work, the more likely she is to speak plainly.
No guarantee of being well-recieved. At the hospital, the jerk male manager
was dictatorial and hard to deal with. The female manager who turned an
equally deaf ear to staff complaints was "something that ryhmed with witch"
and what she really needed "was to get laid" etc. etc. Gee, I hear this
stuff at work, don't you? Society crucifies women who really speak up,
whether they do it well or not. Who got all the vicious publicity... Leona
Helmsley or her husband (whose name I bet no one even remembers)? They were
guilty of the same crime buuuuut she had a big mouth. Klaus Van Bulow tried
to *kill* his wife. He didn't get nearly the same amount of bad press.
Women get tons of messages to keep their mouths shut.
<<According to your definition, the only "good" girl on the show was Urs.>>>
Then you didn't understand my definition. Urs is a self-deprecationg martyr.
You know, good girls eat chocolate and cry when their boyfriend treats them
like dirt. Bad girls pour acid on his car. (Old joke. That's not
constructive action but the point is bad girls take action.) Janette was on
her way to kill that pimp herself but someone beat her to it, right?
<<Change Janette's taste in clothing to something less gothic, give her
blonde hair and you are starting to get very close to Urs...Would you
describe a blonde Janette wearing robin's egg blue as "bad"? >>
Betty White was a veeeerrry bad girl, even in the 60'? when she had her own
TV show. I believe the phrase is, " Man, does that broad have a mouth on
her!." As far as I know, the last woman actually arrested for being a scold,
(specifically defined as a troublesome, angry woman... breaking the public
peace... in otherwords for speaking her mind - there is no equivalent term,
legal or otherwise, for a man) was in New Jersey in 1971. As of 1989, the
law was still on the books.
:-) I certainly hope you weren't implying that you judge the character of a
woman by her clothes or worse (egads!) the color of her hair? Do (white)
women come in 3 flavors only? Is it innocent blondes? Dark, sexy brunettes
and hot-tempered redheads? A few years ago some jerk asked me if I had a
tattoo because he had this theory, see, that redheads are more likely to have
a tattoo than other women (other women??).
;-) But I don't have a tattoo because there aren't any FK tattoos available.
Casting T. F. Stone / Caddywhacked
read my FK book at ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/deangelo_wanda/
and
V4S story
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/virtual_season/by_the_book.txt
and yes, I'd appreciate comments.
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:43:59 -0400
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: Location help
Will wrote:
> while High Park is essentially a nice, safe place, you just don't
> want to be in the more remote areas of the park at night unless
> you deal in drugs, are looking for sex, etc.
"etc." including a quick bite?
Mary
mcombs@e....... N&Npacker
http:\\www.erols.com\mcombs
"RL=Real Life. It's that stuff that keeps happening that gets in the way of
that other stuff."--Sue Clark
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:08:54 -0700
From: Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: I Have a New Question For You <g>
Ah, but would the therapist understand Screedspeak? <g>
Emily
--- Libratsie@a....... wrote:
> What would Screed say to a therapist?
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:15:03 -0700
From: Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK Board games
I can see LC & Nick playing chess.
Schanke: Poker.
Nat: Some type of Trivia-based game. Or that classic game, where you
play doctor & it would buzz you if you got the body part wrong, but I
can't remember what it was called! Operation, I think it was.
No idea for the others.
Emily
--- Patty Costantino <psmoot43@h.......> wrote
>
> What board or card games would each of our FK characters pick as
> their game of choice?
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:44:53 -0700
From: Eric McCann <egmccann@t.......>
Subject: Re: Janette Ain't Misbehavin or Is she?
At 05:36 PM 10/24/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Methinks that becoz you are a guy, you don't hear this stuff directed at you.
<examples snipped for space per listmom's rules...>
Sorry, you just reminded me of a former job... tech support... Female tech
(and a darn good one) would occasionally get the "Let me talk to someone
who knows what they're doing (i.e. a guy.) Response... "Sure, let me get
you my manager, Shawn." Shawn = female...
BTW, how old are these folks? Might just be generational... *shrug*
<< Never ever express an opinion contrary to a man's? I'd say there's
>something wrong there, not that she's a "good" girl.>>
>Well, sure it's wrong. Again, you're a guy. You've never had men talk over
>you, interupt you midsentence, dismiss you from a conversation or insult you
>(and your gender) to your face.
No, but I've had women do it... and either gender try cutting me off,
dismissing me, etc. And women can be *just* as insulting towards men.
There's no monopoly on that.
>Listen to how women speak when they do speak up. They add enough qualifiers
>and apologies to sink a battleship. I really kinda sorta think that if you
>really want to do that that maybe you might want to think or consider maybe
>we could try that?? A properly socialized girl apologizes for asking at all.
Again, I *really* have to wonder if this is generational... since it seems
like folks around my age and younger - well, if I hear a woman say "excuse
me" when putting in an opinion, there's usually an eyebrow raised and a
fist on the hip... it's sure not apologetic!
><<Change Janette's taste in clothing to something less gothic, give her
>blonde hair and you are starting to get very close to Urs...Would you
>describe a blonde Janette wearing robin's egg blue as "bad"? >>
And from this on, it's not my message in the quote. <g> FWIW, no, I don't
tend to judge anyone by skin, hair, etc. (Besides, where do the current
metallic-pink-with-blue-stripes hair colors fit into that range?)
-Eric
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:48:27 +0800
From: Adina Montgomery <adinaruth@e.......>
Subject: FK Board Games
LaCroix: MONOPOLY
Janette: CHUTES & LADDERS... to be played ONLY with Patrick ;-)
Nick: 'KLEW'
Tracy: 'KLEW-LESS' (is that the 'Lite" version?)
Screed: COOTIE
Schanke: MR. POTATO HEAD
Nat: TRIVIAL PURSUIT (Medical Edition)
--
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:15:56 -0700
From: "K. C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Episode List?
Anyone know where I can find a complete list of episode titles and a
brief description of each one?
Thanks!
KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:14:35 -0500
From: CLone Star Software <cstar@a.......>
Subject: Re: Episode List?
Try
http://www.loftworks.com/fktoc.html
Just click on the season you want.
Marci C
At 06:15 PM 10/24/2001 -0700, K.C. Smith wrote:
>Anyone know where I can find a complete list of episode titles and a
>brief description of each one?
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:08:26 -0400
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK Board games
All the vamps:
The Game of (un)Life
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Actually, some creative minds could probably come up with an FK version of
this. It's been too many years since I last played.... I do remember the
little cars you filled up with a spouse and kids along the way...
Mary
mcombs@e....... N&Npacker
http:\\www.erols.com\mcombs
"RL=Real Life. It's that stuff that keeps happening that gets in the way of
that other stuff."--Sue Clark
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:40:35 EDT
From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......>
Subject: Re: Episode List?
In a message dated 10/24/01 6:25:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cstar@a....... writes:
> http://www.loftworks.com/fktoc.html
>
This is very cool--thank you!! Shoot, though, I got all excited when I went
to the site and saw "Official Forever Knight Tapes........." was all ready
with a big WOO HOO, then I realized the messages on that part of the site
were from 1996 & 1997 <sigh>
In the words of Heman Munster.......darn, Darn, DARN!!!
Oh well.........thanks for a great link anyhow :)
Forever Yours,
Billie-Lee
mccelt2000@a.......
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:52:16 -0400
From: "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
Subject: OT: Harry Potter signed book or fan club
Hey, it's me again with another off topic post :) But this time I'm on a
mission for someone other than myself.
My nephew (12) is completely infatuated with the Harry Potter books and is
trying to find a hard cover version of book one (the original, not the movie
re-written version). I had a thought- could someone please tell me where to
find a signed copy of said book one, or the official JK Rowling fan club where
I might inquire about one? He's been super this year, making huge efforts in
his classes and made honor roll, so I'm wanting to surprise him. Thank you for
any/all info sent my way :)
Anita
AKBlake@l....... ~ http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com ~
http://uhjfc.50megs.com ~ http://www.crosswinds.net/~fkfanfic2
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 23:12:08 EDT
From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......>
Subject: [KoC] OT And the Winner of the GWD/AP "Tracker" Tape is (drum roll
<g>)........
...................a **secret** unless he/she decides to fess up hee hee :)
Thanks so much for playing everybody, this was the most names I have ever had
for an extra one of my tapes! How fun :)
OH, and if **anybody** has the third ep of "Enterprise" (Strange New World) I
am happy to trade say 2 eps of Tracker, or FK, HL, etc., etc. I shall not go
on lest I get in trouble!!
I am soooooo looking forward to the next ep of Tracker, I just love seeing my
two favorite Immortals in the same show!!
Thanks again for playing folks, this was fun (for me at least <g>) and I got
to make new friends, and I __love__ making new friends.
::::::::::::::::::BL does the secret handshake with the winner,
lol:::::::::::::::::
Forever Yours,
Forever Peace,
Forever Hugs,
Billie-Lee
mccelt2000@a.......
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 23:27:29 -0400
From: knightfangs <knightfangs@h.......>
Subject: Re: Episode List?
Here you go:
http://loftworks.com/FK/Episodes/episode_guide.html
Grace
----- Original Message -----
From: "K. C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:15 PM
Subject: Episode List?
> Anyone know where I can find a complete list of episode titles and a
> brief description of each one?
> Thanks!
>
> KC Smith
> tigrlady2u@j.......
> "I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:38:41 -0700
From: Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Re: Tongue in cheek
> > What would Javier's hair be doing in my face? You know we can't
> > get into that on a PG-13 list!
> Grace wrote:
> I don't understand why you can't talk about that mad Twister game
> you two were playing.
*snicker* During target practice even!
--
Cloud
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 00:16:31 -0400
From: Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: Janette Ain't Misbehavin or Is she?
At 05:44 PM 10/24/2001 -0700, Eric wrote:
>BTW, how old are these folks? Might just be generational... *shrug*
Not necessarily. There are women of my mother's generation who are just as
b*tchy as you want them to be, and 21st-Century teens who are as
deferential as their great-great-great-grandmothers were in the Victorian
era. It's a matter of acculturation as much as anything.
Some of the "stereotypes" that you might find to be more deferential
include cultures where there is a strong male-centric religion (e.g., some
forms of "fundamentalist Christianity"; some African tribal religions; some
sects of Chassidim), an adherence to values of a previous era, and/or an
abusive environment (both physical and emotional/psychological).
>>Listen to how women speak when they do speak up. They add enough qualifiers
>>and apologies to sink a battleship. I really kinda sorta think that if you
>>really want to do that that maybe you might want to think or consider maybe
>>we could try that?? A properly socialized girl apologizes for asking at all.
Remember that EuroAmerican women are socialized to be peacemakers. A
peacemaker does not usually barge in and say, "Do it my way -- or else." A
peacemaker suggests ways in which compromises can be reached, suggests
other ways of looking at a conflict, proposes alternate solutions for
others' consideration. Note the use of "not taking the credit for it"
terms: suggest, propose. In the end, a successful peacemaker will have the
combatants thinking the peace was their own idea...
Also, this is not limited to women. (Think "Dale Carnegie".) I'd say that
just about everyone who went to grade school in the US in the 1960's or
later has been schooled to be this sort of peacemaker. This is why we're so
willing to relinquish our personal liberties to the government, etc. It is
also why we have as many problems as we do with the "criminal element", and
why new immigrants can often make their way faster and further than those
of us whose parents have been American citizens for generations...
>Again, I *really* have to wonder if this is generational... since it seems
>like folks around my age and younger - well, if I hear a woman say "excuse
>me" when putting in an opinion, there's usually an eyebrow raised and a
>fist on the hip... it's sure not apologetic!
Actually, it springs from the forms of common courtesy that most of us --
both male and female -- are accultured to. (At any rate, the forms of
courtesy that we're *supposed* to be accultured to. Some folk wouldn't
understand the words "please" and "thank you" if you showed them the
definitions in the dictionary.) "Excuse me" is supposed to be the polite
way to interrupt. When normal polite requests are ignored, it is possible
to take the level of demand up a notch. The "Excuse me!" hands on hips
thing is a couple of notches up, but not incomprehensible in the current
social environment...
Brenda F. Bell webwarren@e....... /nick TMana IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/
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Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:19:22 +1300
From: Kylie <kiwisun@i.......>
Subject: Re: I Have a New Question For You <g>
> What would the various FK vampires say to a Therapist if they had one, and
> not just Nick and his angst either <hehe>?
"How does it make me feel?...How drab. I have to admit to being sorely
dissapointed. I had really expected more originality this century."
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:05:55 -0400
From: Lisa Williams <mystykblue@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK Board games
Hi My names Lisa. I just joined the list and I was going to lurk a while
but I just had to reply to the board game question
Nick- Clue or in his case Clew
Lisa
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 02:04:21 -0400
From: Lisa Williams <mystykblue@e.......>
Subject: New intro
Hi everyone,
I've been told that it's OK to speak now. ( thanks Don)
My name is Lisa. I've been a FK fan since 93'. I have an affinity (see
lust) for Lacroix. I was going to lurk for a while but I've seen some
familiar names and have decided that it's safe to announce my presence.
<G> I'm happy to "meet" you all . I don't have any witty sigs. Not yet
that is, but I'll leave you with some of my affiliations so that you
might know me better.
Hugs,
Lisa Williams
Cousin
Nigel Bennett Lustmember
Nunkie's Anonymous - Lacroixsforum
Valentine
Dark Knightie
Spike Girl
Kenneth Irons Appreciation Society -Witchblader
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 02:14:17 -0400
From: Lisa Williams <mystykblue@e.......>
Subject: Re: New intro
Not to sound absolutely ignorant, but my latest post has 20's and =3D
signs posted throughout my message. I've seen the same thing in fanfic
that i've read. What am I doing wrong?
Lisa
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:58:50 +1000
From: Taliesyn <taliesyn@c.......>
Subject: Re: Janette Ain't Misbehavin or Is she?
Maybe another way of saying Janette is misbehaving she chooses
her destiny, she choose to be a vampire to be free of men who
saw her as chattel with no worth other what they decided, and
it gave her the ability to met out punishment to whom ever she
decide merits it, note I don't say justice.
Last but not least she is now superior(ie vampire) to all the
men(even to women) who wouldn't even see her as a equal or to
have any worth, now that is misbehaving to people who would see
attitude as a presumtion.
Alexander J Braun - Taliesyn@c....... - ICQ # 12610993
"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I
thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?
So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of
the universe". Marcus, B5
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:44:58 +0000
From: jennii35 <jennii35@i.......>
Subject: Re: New intro
Not to sound absolutely ignorant, but my latest post has 20's and =3D
signs posted throughout my message. I've seen the same thing in fanfic
that i've read. What am I doing wrong?
Hi Lisa,
Have no idea lol
Dot
Lover of all things Nigel
Dark Knightie and UFer
jennii35@i.......
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:10:39 EDT
From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......>
Subject: Re: New intro
Morning Folks :)+
> <G> I'm happy to "meet" you all . I don't have any witty sigs. Not yet that
> is, but I'll leave you with some of my affiliations so that you might know
> me better.
> Hugs,
> Lisa Williams
Hi Lisa!!!!!!
Welcome to you!! My last name is Williams, too--I have been here a while and
my sig is not very exciting at all <g>, and hey, hugs are nice! Hope you
have fun:>D
Forevers Yours,
Forever Peace,
Forerver Hugs,
Billie-Lee
mccelt2000@a.......
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:42:24 -0500
From: Christy Stillman <cstillma@u.......>
Subject: Re: New intro
>My name is Lisa. I've been a FK fan since 93'. I have an affinity (see
>lust) for Lacroix. I was going to lurk for a while but I've seen some
>familiar names and have decided that it's safe to announce my presence.
><G>
Lisa!! Of course it's safe to announce your presence, my fellow
Lustmember! <BG> I lurk a lot on this list, but I always enjoy the
discussions. Welcome aboard!!
Christy
cstillma@u.......
"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools." -- Douglas Adams
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:38:15 EDT
From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......>
Subject: Re: OT: Harry Potter signed book or fan club & Yet Another Question <g>
Hi again all!!
> I had a thought- could someone please tell me where to find
> a signed copy of said book one, or the official JK Rowling fan club where I
> might inquire about one?
My SO (boyfriend) is a rare book dealer, so I answered this off list (yikes,
the answer is awful expensive; maybe someone else can do better for Anita?).
But, anyhow it got me thinking...........(yeah, I know how dangerous that is
<LOL>!!). This may have been asked before, not sure :)=
With what children's books, stories or characters would you associate each of
the FK characters? It is way early in the morning for me, but I will give it
a bit of a shot <hehe>
LaCroix: The Big Bag Wolf
Nick: The Boy Who Cried Wolf (LOL!! Looking for LC!!)
Janette: The Snow Queen
Natalie: Snow White
Screed: Disney Version of Cinderella (where the mice help Cinderella <hehe>)
Javier Vachon: Samson and Delilah (for the hair, you know <G>?)
Tracy: Cinderella
Schanke: Dr. Jeckel and Mr. Hyde (because that vampire scene of his in
"Stranger than Fiction" keeps popping into my head).
OK, **that** wasn't very witty.......come on gang, I am sure someone else can
do better????????
Have a great day!!
Forever Yours,
Forever Peace,
Forever Hugs,
Billie-Lee (who takes her dog to meet the potential new landlord today <VBG>)
mccelt2000@aol..com
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 06:42:18 -0700
From: Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: New intro
Are you using plain text email or HTML enabled? The PSU list server
seems to only like plain text, with nothing fancy. Also, you could
try your e-mail provider's help desk.
Emily
--- Lisa Williams <mystykblue@e.......> wrote:
> Not to sound absolutely ignorant, but my latest post has 20's and
> =3D signs posted throughout my message. I've seen the same thing
> in fanfic that i've read. What am I doing wrong?
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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:10:03 -0700
From: "K. C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: Episode List?
Thanks to everybody that replied! Cool site, btw!
KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
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