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FORKNI-L Digest - 6 Aug 2001 to 7 Aug 2001 (#2001-240)

Tue, 7 Aug 2001

There are 19 messages totalling 578 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Looking for authors
  2. FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Aug 2001 to 6 Aug 2001 (#2001-239)
  3. Adrian Paul and GWD? (2)
  4. Belated observations on Dark Knight (5)
  5. VTV and Forever Knight
  6. Greg Kramer in new series!!!! (and plea for tapes) (3)
  7. Another strike from TPTB :( (3)
  8. Through Fanfic (was Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Aug 2001 to 6 Aug 2001
     (#2001-239)}
  9. Through Fanfic
 10. GWD & Bury Me in Niagara

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:04:15 -0500
From:    Tracy Morris <tracysue@i.......>
Subject: Looking for authors

This is posted with the kindly permission of McLisa, and crossposted to
Forkni-l, Fkfic-l and several other lists.

I  need the following authors to please get in touch with me off list.

Apache,
Jayel,
Erika,
Beau Brand,
Brenda Bell
Cousin Erik (L'Phantom)
Isabella Saddler
Amy R.
Charma
Jennifer Niebor
Stormsinger/J.S. Levin
Trish troupe
Teresa Floyd
Catherine Siemann
Jerimi
Dawn steele
Lisa Clevenger
Mel Moser
Bonnie (not the llama) Pardoe
Bonnie (the Llama) Rutlidge
Marg Baskin
Stephanie Babbitt
Marie-Celt
Gabriel McFarlane
Gehirn Karies
[Name removed by request]
Lynn Messing


Thanks,
Tracy Sue

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:09:52 -0500
From:    Tracy Morris <tracysue@i.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Aug 2001 to 6 Aug 2001 (#2001-239)

Sunny wrote:
>No wonder so many fans
> have left the fandom over the years, I mean, how long can you go on
> without sustenance?

Through Fanfic.  Through Cheesy rationalizations.  Through fan gatherings.
Through KTK.  Through War.   Through this list.

Tracy Sue
Hope Springs Eternal.

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 21:18:48 +0000
From:    Susan Mutton <susan_mutton@h.......>
Subject: Re: Adrian Paul and GWD?

Only getting front page for Tracker should there be more.  Was hoping I
could enter site or something.  Is it coming later. Sue.

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:34:52 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: Adrian Paul and GWD?

Susan Mutton wrote:

> Only getting front page for Tracker should there be more.  Was hoping I
> could enter site or something.  Is it coming later. Sue.

Yes, there's gonna be more. They're just in the process of redoing the whole
site. Be patient!

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:54:58 -0700
From:    "B. Stone" <STONEB@g.......>
Subject: Belated observations on Dark Knight

My rarely-seen sister spied _Nick Knight_ on my shelf & *had* to watch it.
Then of course, we had to view "Dark Knight" again to compare and contrast.
This led to the following speculations:

1.  What was a regular old home kitchen ladle doing in the slaughterhouse?

2.  Given what we later learn about LC's feeding preferences, isn't it rather
        surprising that he can pretend to savor the pig's blood and that he
        would offer that to Nick?  [If he really wanted to get a rise out of
        Nick, why not go "whole hog" (sorry, <g>) and offer human?]

3.  Nick often opens the trunk and jumps in without having to unlock it
        with a key or climb in the front and pop it open by pushing a button.
        How does he do it without breaking the lock?  (We know he can break
        the lock, probably using his little finger all by itself.)

4.  Did we spot a continuity error in the flashbacks concerning Nick's first
        victim?  Her shoulders are covered by sleeves and she seems to have
        a cape tied around her neck.  But in the close-ups all signs of
        clothing disappear.  Sloppy editing involving a mixture of the
        European version and the Western Hemisphere versions?

B. Stone
stoneb@g.......

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:14:10 -0700
From:    Klytaimnestra <klytaimnestra@s.......>
Subject: VTV and Forever Knight

For western Canadian fans, and those in the Pacific Northwest who might be
picking up VTV and don't want to lose Forever Knight, the address of the
programming staff at CTV, which is about to cancel Forever Knight on VTV
(Vancouver TV) in the fall, is

programming@ctv.ca

If you send - courteous and helpful! - feedback to them asking them to
reconsider the decision to cancel Forever Knight, they want to know  the
name of the series, the time of the show, the city and province, and your
comments.  This information (worked into your email somehow) would be:

Series: Forever Knight
Time aired - Saturday and Sunday nights at 11:00 p.m.
Place - Vancouver, B.C.
Comments - please don't cancel this series!

Yours,

K
--
Klytaimnestra         klytaimnestra@s.......
Fanfiction at http://www.klytaimnestra.com

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:37:24 -0000
From:    Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: Belated observations on Dark Knight

B. Stone wrote:


> 1.  What was a regular old home kitchen ladle doing in the slaughterhouse?
>
Since LaCroix set up the entire meeting, perhaps he brought it with him?
Much neater tahn dipping his hands into the blood and ruining a perfectly
wonderful leather trenchcoat. <g>

> 2.  Given what we later learn about LC's feeding preferences, isn't it rather
>         surprising that he can pretend to savor the pig's blood and that he
>         would offer that to Nick?
>
I loved the pun, even though I didn't  reprint it.  I assume that LaCroix
can do whatever he puts his mind too.  After all, he didn't really have to
enjoy it and I seem to remember he only took a little sip.  The other
possibility is that he was being supremely ironic in his commentw and Nick
knew it quite well.

> 3.  Nick often opens the trunk and jumps in without having to unlock it
>         with a key or climb in the front and pop it open by pushing a button.
>         How does he do it without breaking the lock?
>
I don't know about the mechanics of the Caddy, but I belive that there wee
some cars that you just turned a knob to open the trun if the car was
unlocked.  Or perhaps NIck ahd the trun customized to open at fingertip
pressure or maybe it has a latch like a hood does, that you just have to
press.  The same qursiton applies even more to how he oens the trunk form
the inside.  Back when the Caddy came off the assembly line there were no
quick release cords or buttons in the trunks.

Barb

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:36:20 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Greg Kramer in new series!!!! (and plea for tapes)

Oh, is my little brain just all a twitterpated - Hisselfishness, Greg Kramer,
is a recurring character in an upcoming series... He says he's becoming more
and more recurring as filming goes along.

What is it and why am I so excited?

Drum roll please...

THE NEVERENDING STORY!

He's one Rip Rowdy.

The series will premiere this fall across Europe, Canada and the USA.  We
*think* it will be on CTV in Canada and Odyssey in the US.  I heard from
someone else that the series starts this Saturday at 6 p.m. eastern time in
the US. The problem is, I don't get the station *whimper* so won't be able to
see the series unless someone takes pity on me and tapes it for me.

We hope to have pictures and such eventually.  I do plan to jump the gun and
perhaps start a mailing list for the series... Rip's Rowdies? heheh. I LIKE
that! Therefore, there's now a list on yahoogroups called RipsRowdies.

Post message: RipsRowdies@y.......
Subscribe:  RipsRowdies-subscribe@y.......
Unsubscribe:  RipsRowdies-unsubscribe@y.......
List owner:  RipsRowdies-owner@y.......

And for general series discussion:

Post message: theneverending@y.......
Subscribe:  theneverending-subscribe@y.......
Unsubscribe:  theneverending-unsubscribe@y.......
List owner:  theneverending-owner@y.......

--Libs
LibRatsie@a.......

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Date:    Tue, 7 Aug 2001 00:23:29 EDT
From:    Lynne Ackerman <Lynnea212@a.......>
Subject: Re: Another strike from TPTB :(

Hi, Sunny.

Showcase still shows FK every Monday to Friday at noon.

If you're not home then, you can always tape it and watch it when you *are*
home.  That gives you five hours of the show every week as opposed to just
two hours on the weekend.

A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
"Hollywood North").  Via e-mail:  lynnea212@a.......
                          ** Help support Forever Knight.  Ask me how. **

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Date:    Tue, 7 Aug 2001 00:07:56 -0500
From:    Lindy Cooksey <lindy@w.......>
Subject: Re: Greg Kramer in new series!!!! (and plea for tapes)

>Libratsie@a....... wrote:
>
>THE NEVERENDING STORY!

Tales from the Neverending Story, perhaps? That's the closest thing I can
find on a search on Excite TV. Description is:
(Premiere, new: Adult Situations)
A book about a boy warrior and an empress transforms the life of a
grief-stricken 12-year-old (Mark Rendall).

But this is just a 2 hour movie.  I don't see it listed on any of the
following weekends.  I'll keep checking tho.

>The series will premiere this fall across Europe, Canada and the USA.  We
>*think* it will be on CTV in Canada and Odyssey in the US.  I heard from
>someone else that the series starts this Saturday at 6 p.m. eastern time in
>the US. The problem is, I don't get the station *whimper* so won't be able to
>see the series unless someone takes pity on me and tapes it for me.

Odyssey is now Hallmark, but a lot of listings don't show the changed name
yet, even tho they announced it several months ago.  I should be able to
tape it, if we don't have a big storm to interfer with the satellite
reception.

Lindy :)

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 18:57:51 -0400
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: Belated observations on Dark Knight

At 05:54 PM 8/6/2001 -0700, Barbara Stone wrote:

>3.  Nick often opens the trunk and jumps in without having to unlock it
>         with a key or climb in the front and pop it open by pushing a button.
>         How does he do it without breaking the lock?  (We know he can break
>         the lock, probably using his little finger all by itself.)

Have we ever seen Nick *use* a key to open the trunk? Most likely, he has
"customized" the car by removing the trunk lock, so he just has to move
aside the keyhole cover, stick his finger in, and unlatch the latch.


Brenda Faith Bell       webwarren@e.......
Consultant, The Web Warren      http://www.webwarren.com/

arachne@w.......
bfbell@d.......

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:59:23 -0700
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: Another strike from TPTB :(

--- Lynne Ackerman <Lynnea212@a.......> wrote:
> Hi, Sunny.
>
> Showcase still shows FK every Monday to Friday at noon.
>

Unfortunately, as we Canadian fans all have noticed, Showcase is not very
consistent in the airing of FK. They often skip episodes, or show them in
a crippled format. And lets not forget the missing tag for ďFalse
WitnessĒ, I canít believe Iím never going to see the infamous Popcorn
scene :(

Aside from all that, it pains me that the networks treat our favorite show
this way. First SciFi and now CTV, a Canadian station nonetheless, have
taken it off time slots that werenít even that important to the stations,
and replaced it with junk food entertainment. Besides, how many times a
week does someone need to watch Fraiser, or Friends or the Drew Carey show
(no offence to fans of these shows, I used to be a fan of Friends myself),
or better say on how many different channels?

But I guess this has been said too many times before so I wonít bore you
with it.

Thanks for the tip anyway. I think I have to start recording now. Well,
how does the saying goógood things never last? Lets count them, FK, VTV,
Napster, Rain forestsÖ

Still fighting
Sunny


=====
Countess -- Twilight Knightie,IB,DT,UF,Cotk
"What time is it, what day is it, what century is it?"

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 23:12:26 -0700
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Through Fanfic (was Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Aug 2001 to 6 Aug 2001
         (#2001-239)}

--- Tracy Morris <tracysue@i.......> wrote:
> Sunny wrote:
> >No wonder so many fans
> > have left the fandom over the years, I mean, how long can you go on
> > without sustenance?
>
> Through Fanfic.  Through Cheesy rationalizations.  Through fan gatherings.
> Through KTK.  Through War.   Through this list.
>
True, but what about their faces? Their gestures? Nick giving his cute
little-boy grin, LaCroix raising one eyebrow, Janette smoking a cigarette
on a stick, Nat crossing her hands on her chest and shouting "I'm giving
up on you" for the umft time, Vachon blinking, Screed sniffing, Tracy
pursing her lips, Schanke...

Thatís what I mean by sustenance, to watch them and remember them and love
them over and over again. Perhaps Iím too addicted. Iíll miss them like
family.

Sunny


=====
Countess -- Twilight Knightie,IB,DT,UF,Cotk
"What time is it, what day is it, what century is it?"

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Date:    Mon, 6 Aug 2001 23:22:27 -0000
From:    StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Through Fanfic

Sunny wrote:
>>That's what I mean by sustenance, to watch them and remember them and love
them over and over again. Perhaps I'm too addicted. I'll miss them like
family.<<

Tut-tut!  No need to fret.  While I have yet to accumulate the entire FK
series on tape, there are friendly fans out there with dubbing capabilities
who will share with you.  I *do* have all of Lexx on tape and enjoy watching
my fav eps over and over...

Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Seducer, Dark Trinity, FKPagan
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......
http://stormborn.tripod.com/

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Date:    Tue, 7 Aug 2001 02:12:17 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: Another strike from TPTB :(

Hi,

Sorry to hear about the loss of FK on yet another station. I do have that
scene from "False Witness" available to download on my site, so you can see
it. :)

Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

>And lets not forget the missing tag for "False
> Witness", I can't believe I'm never going to see the infamous Popcorn
> scene :(
> Sunny

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Date:    Tue, 7 Aug 2001 07:11:37 -0500
From:    Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: Belated observations on Dark Knight

> 3.  Nick often opens the trunk and jumps in without having to unlock it
>         with a key or climb in the front and pop it open by pushing a button.
>         How does he do it without breaking the lock?  (We know he can break
>         the lock, probably using his little finger all by itself.)
1)      It is a not-uncommon trick amidst custom car builders to
include hidden electronic buttons to release things like trunks and
doors (typically if you've "shaved" the vehicle and removed the door
handles entirely).   I wouldn't call that Caddy a custom, but I could
see that Nick had a push-button release added for those times
when he is moving fast and needs to get into the dark without
fumbling in his pockets for keys.
2) I am not really a vintage Cadillac fan, so I don't know for sure,
but I could also believe that that era of the Caddy had a seperate
trunk lock.  That there was a normal latch and then a seperate lock
so you could leave your trunk locked or unlocked as you pleased.

                Tim
 Tim Phillips
 timp@d.......

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Date:    Tue, 7 Aug 2001 07:32:35 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Greg Kramer in new series!!!! (and plea for tapes)

In a message dated 8/7/01 12:08:08 AM Central Daylight Time, lindy@w.......
writes:

> But this is just a 2 hour movie.  I don't see it listed on any of the
>  following weekends.  I'll keep checking tho.
My guess is that this is the premiere, and I don't know if Greg is in it or
not. However, it will be a series, and from his description, a wonderful one
;-)

--Libs
LibRatsie@a.......

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Date:    Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:35:24 +0000
From:    Susan Mutton <susan_mutton@h.......>
Subject: Re: Belated observations on Dark Knight

My bit about the caddy lock is that being an old car buff the locks are
different.  You can leave them unlocked just press and open.  You have to
turn my door handle to open or shut and people drive me nuts banging the
door shut a couple of times because it did not close for them.  It was very
nice of them to see me off but my poor lock.  Sue.

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Date:    Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:29:18 -0700
From:    Boomer <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: GWD & Bury Me in Niagara

I thought this may be of interest for GWD
fans...Express.com is having a clearance sale, and I
came across "Bury Me in Niagara" on DVD for $7.49!
There's even a shot of GWD on the cover.

Here's the link to Express.com

http://www.express.com/product_movies.asp?ProductNumber=6543&Type=Movie

My apologies to those of you who receive more than one
copy of this as I'm cross-posting it to several lists.

:) Boomer

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