FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 11 Apr 2001 to 12 Apr 2001 (#2001-122)
Thu, 12 Apr 2001
There are 18 messages totalling 546 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Divia & the therapist
2. But did Serena fail?
3. FK and Frasier.
4. Did Serena fail? (2)
5. FK Superheroes (was: Makeovers) (2)
6. Forever Knight Webring (2)
7. Did Serena fail? Not entirely, I'll bet. (4)
8. Forever Night Webring (sic) (3)
9. pressing Nick to commit
10. Idle thought
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:03:49 EDT
From: Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: Divia & the therapist
In a message dated 4/11/01 12:09:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
Melinda_Hughes@v....... writes:
<< Yes the name of that story is "Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs" >>
Ack! Of course! that's Susan Nix' (aka KC) story. I knew that.
How could I not remember that?!
:: twack's self ::
Laurie of the Isles
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:13:02 -0400
From: "Brooks, Julia A." <BROOKJU@m.......>
Subject: Re: But did Serena fail?
McLisa asked...
<snip> How would Serena know she
>wasn't pregnant until either she started to show or
>the baby started moving?
My interpretation of Serena's disappointment was that she felt that if she
had indeed been fertilized than the "vampire" in her would be gone
instantly. Perhaps she was just too impatient.
YMMV,
Julia B. (aka Brooksie) and Allie's Brook
forever Knightie crusader, Les Chevaliers de la Nuit
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"And a screaming fine ride [he] is, too."
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with Ginger (Woofpack) and Dusty (FoSiL)
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:28:02 -0500
From: tracysue <tracysue@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK and Frasier.
>
> I don't know about that story, but I do recall a hilarious xover with
> Frasier. Can't for the life of me recall who the author was.
The story is Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs, and the author is KC Susan, of
Nunkies Anonymous fame. KC's other fiction includes the filk Master of the
Mouse, several editions of her Snixco catalog, and the MST3K crossovers Schanke
and Frank reunited and LaCroix does the SOL.
I've collected most of her work onto one page at my homepage
http://members.nbci.com/tracysue1/Library.html
> --
Tracy Sue
Vaquera http://members.nbci.com/tracysue1/Library.html
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:54:03 -0700
From: Klytaimnestra <lbowman@c.......>
Subject: Did Serena fail?
on 4/11/01 2:00 PM, McLisa wrote:
> I don't know how Serena could be sure she'd failed.
<snip>
> How would Serena know she wasn't pregnant until either she started to show or
> the baby started moving?
I think we're supposed to assume it, because she seemed to think that the
cure would be immediate; but she's weeping blood tears at the end of the
episode, and Nick is being sympathetic.
Now, Serena and Nick could have been wrong about the cure being immediate,
and she may have a pleasant surprise in store for her. But if Serena were
not mortal I don't see how she'd bear a child, or even conceive; surely a
vampire body would just expel a fertilized ovum, assuming it could produce
an ovum, as a foreign entity.
On a related topic, does anyone besides me find it a little weird that Nick
is standing there on top of the CN Tower - granted with his back turned, but
still - while his former lover Serena consummates the act (probably) with
this other guy? Oddly voyeuristic and icky, to me.
And on another related topic, I took the Serena-and-Nick consummation scene
as one that showed that vampires to be capable of 'real' sex as well as
blood-drinking. The scene with Alexandra, also, I thought, showed that Nick
expected, at least, to be capable of 'real' sex - unfortunately his vampire
nature prompted him to premature exsanguination - but he was expecting to be
able to take her to bed for more reasons than that. So the 'human' urge
seems to be there, if only the vampire urge can be controlled for long
enough.
(Though why, in that case, he didn't consummate his marriage, or the affair
with the merchant's daughter Amalia, as well as draining them, is a mystery
to me.)
K
--
Klytaimnestra lbowman@c.......
Fanfiction at http://members.home.net/lbowman
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:08:28 EDT
From: MadiHolmes@a.......
Subject: Re: FK Superheroes (was: Makeovers)
In a message dated 04/11/01 10:22:05 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
smolly4@q....... writes:
>
> Christy wrote:
> >> And let's not forget Janette as Femme Fatale. Impeccably dressed and
> coiffed, she flies around Toronto responding to extreme fashion emergencies.
> <G><<
>
NIck as the Dark Knight
Nat as Phoenix <this works on several levels>
Tracy as The Canadian version of the Star Spangled Kid
Vachon as Starman
Janette as Catwoman
Uncle as umm.... Lex Luthor
Don as Deadman
Divia as Secret
Who'd I miss?
MadiHolmes
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:11:06 -0400
From: Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Knight Webring
At 09:16 AM 4/11/2001 -0700, Emily Hanson wrote:
>Well, unless you're a hacker, there's not much an individual can do except
>complain to the owner of the site, the webmaster or the site hosting company
>involved (which might just get the entire webring removed)!
Or the owner of the Web ring. IIRC, the owner of a Web ring usually has the
power to remove any site from the ring...
Brenda F. Bell webwarren@e....... /nick TMana IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos: http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:07:42 -0400
From: Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK Superheroes (was: Makeovers)
At 08:43 AM 4/11/2001 -0500, Christy wrote:
>And let's not forget Janette as Femme Fatale. Impeccably dressed and
>coiffed, she flies around Toronto responding to extreme fashion
>emergencies. <G>
Like Emme on E! ????? (At least, I *think* "Fashion Emergency" is on E!...)
Brenda F. Bell webwarren@e....... /nick TMana IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos: http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:06:31 -0500
From: SAMI THOMPSON <angels2@f.......>
Subject: Re: Did Serena fail? Not entirely, I'll bet.
Klytaimnestra wrote:
> On a related topic, does anyone besides me find it a little weird that Nick
> is standing there on top of the CN Tower - granted with his back turned, but
> still - while his former lover Serena consummates the act (probably) with
> this other guy? Oddly voyeuristic and icky, to me.
A LITTLE weird? Try ENTIRELY weird! Odd, icky, exciting, call it what you like.
I was shocked the first time I viewed the program. I kept expecting a polite
"ahem" from somebody, or maybe a grip to slowly extend a pole waaaaaay out to
poke Ger in the head <poke-poke "pssssst!">. Or perhaps LaCroix should have
landed just about then, laid his arm around Nick's shoulder, and clucked with
fatherly understanding and sympathy.
But look at it this way: at least he turned his back! Nick's presence didn't
seem to deter Serena from her task, either. Maybe there's something about
standing out on in the icy wind on an swaying tower in Toronto that impairs
vampire judgment?
Sami
*********
Sami Swan Thompson
angels2@f.......
http://www.geocities.com/samiswan/index.html
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:31:00 -0500
From: "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: Did Serena fail? Not entirely, I'll bet.
Klytaimnestra wrote:
> On a related topic, does anyone besides me find it a little weird that Nick
> is standing there on top of the CN Tower - granted with his back turned, but
> still - while his former lover Serena consummates the act (probably) with
> this other guy? Oddly voyeuristic and icky, to me.
I'm afraid that when I saw that scene, my first reaction wasn't wondering at the
voyeuristic aspects. I was astounded they all weren't desperately clutching at
any available pole trying to stay upright against the wind! At that height,
there's a constant stiff breeze coming off the lake, and it about blows you off
your feet.
Or maybe construction workers are made of sterner stuff, and they were wearing
their magnetic shoes. And Nick was actually flying against the wind, and was
going at the precise speed he needed to stay in one place. <g>
Cursed by practicality,
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:32:27 EDT
From: WRDRR@a.......
Subject: Re: Forever Night Webring (sic)
In a message dated 4/11/01 8:15:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
webwarren@e....... writes:
<< Web ring. IIRC, the owner of a Web ring usually has the
power to remove any site from the ring >>
Oh I'm sure some clever person (duh) thought the FK webring was just the
perfect place for their sleazy website because they thought it was Forever
*Night* not *Knight*. So much for spelling in the U. S public school system.
;-) Everybody smile! ;-)
Casting T. F. Stone / Caddywhacked
read my FK book at ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/deangelo_wanda/
and
V4S story
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/virtual_season/by_the_book.txt
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:35:03 EDT
From: WRDRR@a.......
Subject: Re: Did Serena fail? Not entirely, I'll bet.
In a message dated 4/11/01 9:06:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
angels2@f....... writes:
<< lover Serena consummates the act (probably) with
> this other guy? Oddly voyeuristic and icky, to me. >>
I remember yelling at the T.V. during this one. It was kinda a long moment
there and I kept shrieking, "I can't *believe* he is just *standing* there!"
I laughed for days over that one. Nicky definitely needs to get in the sun
more often.
Casting T. F. Stone / Caddywhacked
read my FK book at ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/deangelo_wanda/
and
V4S story
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/virtual_season/by_the_book.txt
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:07:57 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Did Serena fail? Not entirely, I'll bet.
> << lover Serena consummates the act (probably) with this other guy?
Oddly voyeuristic and icky, to me. >>
Agreed---by my and your standards. I can only think that for vampires the
standards are different--they being so less constrained morality wise than
we (other than following the Code). Maybe they don't mind voyeurism and the
only reason we saw ones like Nick and that young vampire in SOB go off alone
was because they were in the vicinity of mortals who might protest such a
public activity as biting your companion's neck and avidly sucking away.
Vamps. Those crazy kids. <eg>
:)=
Kyer, kyer@p.......
..'scuse me while I go have a heart-ta-heart with Milord. <thwak!>
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:18:07 -0700
From: StormBorn <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Re: pressing Nick to commit
Klytaimnestra wrote:
>> Well, LC has no trouble committing to LONG-term relationships, even if
the other parties don't want one! With humans, of course, he's equally
committed to intense but very SHORT-term relationships - Nat would keep his
attention for the 30 seconds or so it took to be lunch ... (g)<<
Or maybe he's been 'sipping' at Nat since BMV, which is why he hasn't killed
her yet; not out of consideration for Nick or that he truly believes Nick
doesn't love her, but because he's enjoying her himself. Would be just like
the old devil, wouldn't it?
Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Ravenette, Dark Trinity, Seducer, Forum Fanatic, FK Pagan
Abnormally fond of dead guys
smolly4@q....... or stormborn@l.......
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 05:18:52 -0400
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Night Webring (sic)
Soul emailed me last night. She has taken that site off the ring. The site
that was there originally had FK stuff on it, but the owner changed it so that
it forwarded everyone to a porn site.
--
Steph
stephke@i.......
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
http://www.richardbasehart.com
"The sea..where each man, as in a mirror, finds himself", Richard Basehart as
Ishmael
"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." Katherine Hepburn
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 07:40:54 -0700
From: Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: Did Serena fail?
--- Klytaimnestra <lbowman@c.......> wrote:
> does anyone besides me find it a little weird that Nick is standing
there on top of the CN Tower - granted with his back turned, but still -
while his former lover Serena consummates the act (probably) with this
other guy? Oddly voyeuristic and icky, to me.<
>
Not to mention that he probably could feel all of it too considering the
mental link vampire parent/children share. I’m only forced to listen to my
neighbors consummate (or something like that) every night and I tell you
it's so icky I have to turn my TV volume up to the last notch and it still
doesn't help. I don't know how he could tolerate it.
>... showed that vampires to be capable of 'real' sex as well as
blood-drinking. The scene with Alexandra, also, I thought, showed that
Nick expected, at least, to be capable of 'real' sex <
Trying to stay within the realm of PG (which is very difficult in this
case considering my limited vocabulary) most vampire adult fiction I read
(which are basically all FK fiction) presume that vampire's can have real
human sex with their mortal/immortal partners but the act of drinking
blood is essential for the vampire to find their release and therefore
it's always last, making everything else almost as significant as mere
cuddling. The only problem is that a mortal lover may not survive this
final act.
=====
Countess -- Devoted Knightie, Immortal Beloved, Dark Trinity, with UF and
Enforcement tendencies
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:51:12 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Knight Webring
At 01:11 PM 4/11/01 -0400, Brenda Bell wrote:
>Or the owner of the Web ring. IIRC, the owner of a Web ring usually has the
>power to remove any site from the ring...
Okay, who's the owner of the Web ring, and how do we contact her?
Bring 'em back alive!
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Cousin of the Knight ~ N&NPacker
CotK Site -- http://lavender.fortunecity.com/evildead/879/
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:00:27 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Night Webring (sic)
At 05:18 AM 4/12/01 -0400, Stephanie Kellerman wrote:
>Soul emailed me last night. She has taken that site off the ring. The site
>that was there originally had FK stuff on it, but the owner changed it so that
>it forwarded everyone to a porn site.
I suspected that was what had happened. Is there any way of complaining to
whatever company is the host of the web ring? What that person did is
really abusive, and if something isn't done about stuff like that, Congress
is going to continue to try to put controls on the internet that a lot of
people aren't going to be very happy with.
Bring 'em back alive!
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Cousin of the Knight ~ N&NPacker
CotK Site -- http://lavender.fortunecity.com/evildead/879/
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:17:56 -0400
From: "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: Idle thought
Ditto!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Portia" <portia1@m.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Idle thought
> Re: Kyer's Idle Thoughts -- LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO!!!
>
> Thou hast done well, Oh Fractured One! "g"
>
> Portia
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