FORKNI-L

FORKNI-L Digest - 7 Mar 2001 to 8 Mar 2001 (#2001-77)

Thu, 8 Mar 2001

There are 18 messages totalling 504 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. AlexaKnight's website (2)
  2. Max size of fkfic-l posts what are you doing in wordpad???
  3. Heights and LaCroix as President (5)
  4. Height (2)
  5. Heights (4)
  6. Admin: Cutting down to size
  7. How shorter can be better (was Re: Heights)
  8. heights
  9. She Misses Him 1/1

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Date:    Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:50:47 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: AlexaKnight's website

I can't find the addy to Alexa's (the original Twilight Knightie) website.
Can someone foreward it to me?

Kyer, kyer@p.......

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Date:    Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:12:47 -0500
From:    Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: Max size of fkfic-l posts what are you doing in wordpad???

I need to ask a favor of everyone.  Now that Nancy has let us know how to keep
the lines in the stories from being so long you can't comfortably read the
story, please let me know if you know of a story on the ftp site that is like
that.  I know of a few, but it will take me forever to look at every story
individually.  I will then fix them.

Thanks,

--
Steph
stephke@i.......
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
http://www.richardbasehart.com
"The sea..where each man, as in a mirror, finds himself", Richard Basehart as
Ishmael
"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun."  Katherine Hepburn

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Date:    Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:18:28 EST
From:    WRDRR@a.......
Subject: Re: Heights and LaCroix as President

In a message dated 3/6/01 10:52:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Laudon1965@a....... writes:

<< Doing the doctor thing was Nick's gig, not LC's. <g>   >>

Please refer to Knight in Question.  That's when LC dressed up as a doctari.


Casting T. F. Stone
Caddywhacked
read my FK book at ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/deangelo_wanda/

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Date:    Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:31:42 -0000
From:    Linda Hepden <Kezia.Hepden@b.......>
Subject: Re: Height

First - hello!  (as this is my first post to the list).

I think it would have made very good sense during the medieval period for LC
to deliberately target aristrocrats as 'recruits' as they had many
priviledges, and the commoners had virtually none.  Staying up all night,
carrying weapons, pleasing yourself as to where and when you go would all
have been forbidden to your average peasant - who would also be required to
work a certain number of days per week/month in his master's fields, or on
road/bridge/hedgerow maintenance.  Bit difficult to do when you're allergic
to sunlight... <VEG>

After all, it was the Normans after 1066 who introduced the 'curfew' (from
the French 'couvre feu' - literally, 'cover fire', meaning they had to
extinguish all sources of heat and light in peasant homes after a certain
time in the evening.)  Going out after dark was fine for a knight or
lord/lady of high rank, but a peasant would be almost automatically
suspected of some sort of mischief.   The fact that with a vampiric peasant
they'd be right is irrelevant!  They simply wouldn't last very long.

Added to which, most cultured Europeans would speak Latin and be able to
read and write, so they could usually communicate when travelling to other
countries and could, if needs be, claim 'benefit of clergy' because they
were literate, to avoid the local lord's henchman - even if that one does
strike me as a two-edged sword for a vampire.... ;-)

Nancy E. Kaminski wrote
> (putting on pedantic hat) According to "Jack the Ripper, the Complete
> Casebook", Elizabeth Stride was about 5'4" or 5'5". FWIW. :-)

As someone who spent several years living in London's East End, and who is
proud to say that my late father was a genuine Cockney, born and bred, I'd
say that 'Long Liz' for Elizabeth Stride is likely to be an example of
Cockney humour, which delights in bad puns and word-play.  She was possibly
originally called something like 'Lizzie Long Stride', and the name would
later have been  shortened to 'Long Liz'.

Kezia Hepden

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Date:    Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:17:45 EST
From:    Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: Heights and LaCroix as President

In a message dated 3/7/01 7:19:37 PM US Mountain Standard Time, WRDRR@a.......
writes:

<< Please refer to Knight in Question.  That's when LC dressed up as a
doctari.  >>

Ah yes, I had forgotten.  Perhaps intentionally, surgical scrubs were not a
good look on LaCroix. <g>

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 03:22:00 EST
From:    KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Heights

In a message dated 3/7/01 9:54:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
tigrlady2u@j....... writes:

<< I'm terribly sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone.
  Does anyone out there have any idea how tall CD is?
  >>
No one is upset KC.  We're all just discussing our height.
I'd like a few inches more but 5 foot will do me find.  It's quality not
quantity that counts.
KnightWitch ;-]=

CaddyWhacker{first and foremost}, Die Hard, Ravenette with Enforcement
tendencies.
A Unique line of Forever Knight apparel is now available at:
http://hometown.aol.com/knghtwtch/index.html .....and.....
http://home.clear.net.nz/knightraven/pages.html

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 06:25:46 -0500
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: Heights

At 01:22 PM 3/7/2001 -0500, Mindi wrote:

>(Who has been told "Don't worry you'll grow" since I was 10..... And at
>5'2" It obviously never happened! *G*)

Dang! I've got to wear heels I can't stand an evening in to reach 5'2"...
and I'm the tallest woman on  one side of my mom's family! KC, I would
*love* to be 5'8" (or taller!)-- that's the height for which manufacturers
make misses' and women's ready-to-wear. And about those "petites", "women's
petites", and "half sizes"? They're designed for 5'2" - 5'4"...

*sigh*


Brenda F. Bell   webwarren@e.......   /nick TMana     IM: n2kye
Arctophile, computer addict, TREKker, stealth photographer...
         UA, PoCBS, FKPagan; Neon-Green GlowWorm
HugMistress of the Ger Bear Project http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/
Gerthering 3 Photos:  http://members.Tripod.com/~TMana/gertherng/
Visit the Fiendish Glow at http://home.earthlink.net/~webwarren/glow/

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 05:18:39 -0800
From:    Lisa McDavid <cecily1349@y.......>
Subject: Admin: Cutting down to size

I know, I know, I got into the heights discussion,
too, but unless we're talking about our heights in
relation to FK, this discussion has gotten offtopic.

I'd suggest another topic, but it's early morning and
I'm still waking up. :)

McLisa
listowner, Fkfic-l and Forkni-l
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:07:20 -0600
From:    "Christella M. Stillman" <cstillma@u.......>
Subject: Re: Heights and LaCroix as President

At 09:18 PM 3/7/2001 EST, WRDRR@a....... wrote:

>Please refer to Knight in Question.  That's when LC dressed up as a doctari.

And sporting those scrubs quite nicely, too, I might add.  <VBG>

Christy
cstillma@u.......

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:39:24 -0800
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: AlexaKnight's website

--- Kyer <kyer@p.......> wrote:
> I can't find the addy to Alexa's (the original
> Twilight Knightie) website.
> Can someone foreward it to me?
>
> Kyer, kyer@p.......

If it is the same as "Knights De Soir" here it is:

http://members.tripod.com/DeSoir/index.html

Hope it's what you were looking for

Countess--Die-hard Twilight Knightie, current miniwar
mistress on SciFi Board

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:48:45 -0800
From:    "David J. Duncan" <dante0220@y.......>
Subject: How shorter can be better (was Re: Heights)

Hi Everyone:

Apologies in advance to the listparents if I'm
stepping out of bounds by including my stories in
the discussion, but here goes.....

In my FK stories, Cybelle is only 5'2", Karen is
5'3", Angie 5'3 1/2", and Dave is 5'8".  (Divia
is of course--shorter than 5 foot) And, as the
General finds out, each of them is quite capable
of putting a hurt on him. (Just refer to his
encounters with Cybelle and Divia in addition to
the upcoming confrontation between him and Dave.)

By the way, a question about LC and shipboard
passage.  If he is 6-3, how did he manage to
stand up straight below decks in a ship of the
Early Modern period?  I've walked through ships
of that era (the ships at Old Mystic for example)
and I need to stoop to make my way through
steerage.  (I'm about 5-8)

Remember folks: taller isn't always better and
the total package is better than its outer
appearance. :)

Thanks

David

(who never noticed that CD was "only" 5-3 and
never really cared about that fact)

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:16:22 -0700
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: Re: heights

>GWD is indeed 5' 11".  NB is 6'.  But LC is taller because NB wore special
>shoes to make the vampire master appear significantly taller than Nick.

Any reports of NB tripping or twisting an ankle? <G>
                     'Rose
with hilarious thoughts of LaCroix threatening Nick and then tripping,
mid-tirade. <G>

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:39:22 -0700
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: Heights and LaCroix as President

Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......> wrote:

 >>I remember there was a multi part series shown here in
Canada a couple of months ago about the history of the
land in which LaCroix--sorry Nigel played one of the
historical figures and was wearing a wig. <<

Yes, he played Governor-General Guy Carleton, who, in 1775-1776, had to
defend Canada against the invading American revolutionaries, led by General
Benedict Arnold. At the end of the American War of Independence, Carleton
was commander-in-chief at New York, and he refused to evacuate his troops
until all the Loyalists had been sent into safety in Canada.

NB did a great job as Gov. Carleton. It was a pretty tough gig for an
actor. First off, many actors have problems with wearing historic costume,
but of course we know that Nigel most definitely is an exception! Secondly,
they filmed the actors in front of a green screen (i.e. no set or
stage--that was filled in later with special effects), talking directly to
the camera and without other actors to work with. On top of that, they used
the actual words of the historic people, which were written in a style
quite different from modern conversational English. Unlike many of the
actors who worked on _Canada: A People's History_, NB came across as being
quite comfortable with his role, despite the professional challenges.

Your humble & obedient servant,
Ligeia

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:28:07 -0700
From:    Molly Schneider <smolly4@q.......>
Subject: Re: Height

Kezia wrote:
>> I think it would have made very good sense during the medieval period for LC
to deliberately target aristrocrats as 'recruits' as they had many priviledges,
and the commoners had virtually none.  <snip><<

Oooh, good point!  And a peasant couldn't simply "disappear" as during the
feudal period serfs belonged to their master (or rather, to the land, which was
in turn owned by the master).

>>As someone who spent several years living in London's East End, and who is
proud to say that my late father was a genuine Cockney, born and bred,<<

Tres cool.

>>I'd say that 'Long Liz' for Elizabeth Stride is likely to be an example of
Cockney humour, which delights in bad puns and word-play.  She was possibly
originally called something like 'Lizzie Long Stride', and the name would later
have been  shortened to 'Long Liz'.<<

<Molly's eyes roll in opposite directions as she contemplates possible Cockney
nick-names for LaCroix and Nick...>


Molly/StormBorn
Cousin, Seducer, Forum Fanatic, Ravenette, Dark Trinity, FK Pagan
smolly4@q.......
Remember: always pillage *before* you burn!

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:43:54 -0700
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: Re: Heights

>  I am actually quite taller than anyone else in my family (the women all
>average 5'0'' to 5'5").  I am 5'8" and I've always hated being so much
>taller.

Oh, so now I'm abnormally tall?!  I'm 5'8", and I'm the shortest on in my
family!  It's nice to know I don't look like a child compared to some
people, but I'm not a beanpole!  :P Sorry, just giving you a hard time. <G>

>.. though there are times it does have its perks.

Absolutely. <G>
                     'Rose
The perfect hight is whatever you stopped at. The perfect figure is whatever
you were 5 years ago.

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:27:18 -0800
From:    "K. C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: She Misses Him 1/1

 Forgot to say that permission is granted to archive on the ftp site,
Mel's fanfic site and the N/Npack sites.  Anyone else that would like to
archive them, just drop me a line to let me know where.

KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:26:45 -0800
From:    Sunny LaCountess <countessa2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: Heights and LaCroix as President

>Canada: A People's History

Yes,I remember now . That's what it was called.
I also thought NB came across perfect in that most
difficult role. Another amazing thing about him was
that he wasn't any bit LaCroix. I mean some actors
after playing a role one too many times can't really
feel themselves in any other role and end up playing
the same character in all their roles. Just goes to
show what a skilful actor NB is.


=====
Countess -- Devoted Knightie, Immortal Beloved, Dark Trinity, with UF and
Enforcement tendencies

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Date:    Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:24:37 -0800
From:    "K. C. Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: Heights

 Rose writes: Oh, so now I'm abnormally tall?!  I'm 5'8", and I'm the
shortest on in my family!

 ::smacks forehead and then cringes in pain::  I can't win with you
people!

>snip<  :P Sorry, just giving you a hard time. <G>

 That's okay.  I'm suffering from a major case of the flu and I'm not
exactly fully coherent!

 Just so ya'll know... I dropped a short story to the fic list.  I
actually wrote it several weeks ago, but I just finally got the time to
post it.  It's called 'She Misses Him'.
 I guess no one knows how tall CD is?  I've seen numerous posts on the
subject, just no answer as to how tall she is.

KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."

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