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FORKNI-L Digest - 15 Nov 2000 to 16 Nov 2000 (#2000-352)

Thu, 16 Nov 2000

There are 11 messages totalling 305 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. A downside of being a vampire
  2. Blood and Donuts (3)
  3. Looking for FK Tapes (not music) (2)
  4. FK in Spanish (3)
  5. Pin Count for Wednesday - Empty Handed
  6. Warning dirty words!An ode to the creator of Mad Knights.See whatit did to
     me!

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Date:    Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:31:44 EST
From:    Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: A downside of being a vampire

In a message dated 11/15/00 12:37:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
vachesang@s....... writes:

<< No, lots of us think up weird things... but I don't think I've ever been
 to your oddity.  Is it nice?  Maybe you ought to throw a party!  Hey
 everyone - Party at Laurie's Oddity! >>

I've got the Yoohoo!  Can somebody bring the Twister?

<< Oooh, this is getting *too* weird..... >>

There's no such thing. <G>

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:38:17 -0600
From:    Barbara Aszman Stone <StoneB@g.......>
Subject: Blood and Donuts

This movie has been on recently; I've bumped into the middle of it twice now and
am anxiously searching for the beginning.  Lost this month's Direct TV Guide
(probably recycled it thinking it was the September issue) and so every day I
read the klutzy satellite guide as far into the future as it will go, looking
for this movie.  I believe it was on at least two of the following channels:
Encore, Starz, and/or Showtime.

It was from 1995 and the actor who played the vampire was Michael Currie.  He
looked enough like Vachon that I wondered if TPTB were seeking a Currie look
alike when they hired Ben Bass.  Did it come out early in '95 so that there
would have been sufficient time before casting third season for this to be
true?

There were a number of similarities to FK, including a close-up of some keys
on somebody's belt (hommage?) but perhaps it was all coincidence magnified by
my, uh, special interest.  [Now who said "obsession"?!  Let's be nice.]

This film was more light-hearted and campy than FK (loved the scene where the
camera pans from the deceased pigeon to Boyo, who, trying to look ever so
innocent, quickly blows away a pair of incriminating feathers stuck to his
mouth).  Yet it had its tragic ending.  So, not as comic as _Nightlife_ with
Keith Szarabajka (another doctor tries to cure vampire movie) but not as
introspectively serious as FK can be.

The "donut shop junkie" was played by Earl Pastko, better known around these
parts as Miklos, if I'm not mistaken.  He's evidently in the part I keep
missing. Anybody out there have a Direct TV guide?

        B. Stone
        stoneb@g.......

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Date:    Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:09:18 -0700
From:    KYER <KYER@p.......>
Subject: Looking for FK Tapes (not music)

I was once going to buy some story audio tapes of original stories, but I
lost the site addy from whence they were being sold.  (They were mostly
UFfish, but had some general ones as well.)

Anybody have it?

:)=
Kyer, kyer@p.......

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Date:    Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:08:35 -0600
From:    Barbara Aszman Stone <StoneB@g.......>
Subject: FK in Spanish

Many thanks to those who have helped me acquire some FK in Spanish!  I've got
a few episodes from Spain and a few more from somewhere in Spanish America
other than Argentina or the Carribean area, judging from the accent.  The
Spanish-American version was apparently edited to fit a half-hour time slot,
often omitting amusing dialogue in favor of filler scenes supplied only to
flesh out the Canadian version.  I suppose it lowered the cost of dubbing, since
the fillers featured the mute Caddy and the equally mute Nick-brooding-in-
the-loft-with-candlesticks.  The Spanish versions seem to be complete (all
second season).  In Latin America, Natalie has a higher voice than we're used to
hearing and it's hard to distinguish Nick's voice from LC's.  In Spain, Natalie's
voice is back to normal and Schanke sounds exactly as though they'd hired Kapelos
to do the dubbing after teaching him to speak Spanish like a native.  In Spain,
Schanke is pronounced with a /sh/ by absolutely everybody (so far) and Nick
seems to have been brought across twenty years later, though he looks not a day
older... or younger. <g>  The introduction we all know and love and can recite
in our sleep was translated differently in the two versions. Titles differ,
too:

Spanish America (or some Spanish station in the U.S.??):
        El hombre de las tinieblas                [tinieblas = twilight]
        E'l fue transformado en 1228.
        Despojaba a los humanos de su sangre.
        Ahora quiere ser mortal otra vez,
        compensar a la sociedad por sus pecados,
        emerger de su antigu(dieresis)o mundo
        y dejar de ser.... el hombre de las tinieblas.

Spain
        El señor de las tinieblas
        Sufrio' la transformacio'n en 1248 (sic)
        Se alimentaba de sangre humana.
        Ahora quiere volver a ser mortal,
        compensar a la sociedad por sus pecados,
        salir de su mundo de oscuridad,
        salir de su noche eterna.

In my opinion, the second translation is more elegant and more liberated from
awkward anglicisms, even if it is somewhat less accurate.  But it still
rounds off to 800 years, so what does it matter?  [Nick:  "Roughly 20 x 365
fewer souls to atone for!]
        B. Stone
        stoneb@g.......

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Date:    Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:28:43 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: FK in Spanish

B. Stone wrote: But it still rounds off to 800 years, so what does it
matter?  [Nick:  "Roughly 20 x 365 fewer souls to atone for!]  (Spanish
version says 1248 instead of 1228.)

Lol!
I'm picturing Milord with an ink eraser, carefully rubbing away the
'Canadian' on his fake birth certificate so that it can be changed to
'Spanish'.    20x365 Souls less is nothing to sneeze at!

;)=
Kyer

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Date:    Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:27:25 -0800
From:    "Nancy A. Taylor" <nat1228@h.......>
Subject: Re: Looking for FK Tapes (not music)

At 04:09 PM 11/15/00 -0700, Kyer wrote:
>I was once going to buy some story audio tapes of original stories, but I
>lost the site addy from whence they were being sold.  <snip>
>
>Anybody have it?

You want Dragon's Lair Studios -- http://www.dragonsroar.com/ . They have
hilariously funny FK parodies, and at least one drama tape as well.
Definitely a must-have for anyone wanting a *complete* FK collection. All
stories are original, and not remakes of the episodes. However, the
parodies are definitely "R" rated, and you must be of legal age to purchase
them.

Nancy Taylor   --   nat1228@h.......
Knightie/N&NPack/UF/GWDFC
http://members.home.net/nat1228/fk.htm
"The first hundred years are the hardest."
    --Wilson Mizner

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Date:    Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:18:47 -0500
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: Pin Count for Wednesday - Empty Handed

Sorry, but all the pins have now been given away. I've confirmed
everyone who's getting something, except one address that bounced.
GoddessGabs@a......., if you see this, your pin request is also okay.

  <waves>

 *************************************************************************
 Bonnie Rutledge........<br1035@i.......>........Single and Fabulous!
 "Do you bake pies?" "No - I use my oven for storage."- 'Sex and the City'
 Welcome Michael Scott Sauscito, born 11/8/2000 - Congrats Mike and Amber!

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Date:    Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:07:11 EST
From:    Enid Rodriguez <LadyEnid512@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK in Spanish

"salir de su noche eterna"

Can I just say how much I *LOVE* that!
In fact I love that so much...I think I want it on a hat!

Lady Enid (Enid Rodriguez)
--
LadyEnid512@a.......
G5/Wolfville2000/Enforcer/Harem Wife/BGoBH/Kaydick Tech Cult

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Date:    Thu, 16 Nov 2000 00:34:50 -0800
From:    "Jan J." <jonesjan@g.......>
Subject: Blood and Donuts

A couple of days ago there was
talk about the movie 'Blood and Donuts'
on the list. If anyone is interested it's avaiable
from Amazon.Com.  I copied the information
off the search page below....

Cheers,
Jan

http://www.amazon.com/

Blood and Donuts (1996)

Price: $9.98

Rated: R
Not for sale to persons under age 18.
Starring: et al.
Director: Holly Dale

Edition Details:
NTSC format (US and Canada only)
Color, Closed-captioned, NTSC
ASIN: 6304171781

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Date:    Thu, 16 Nov 2000 05:22:54 -0500
From:    fkf@v.......
Subject: Re: Warning dirty words!An ode to the creator of Mad Knights.See
         whatit did to me!

Can you please give us the URL?  I am curious about it now.

    thanks

fkf

Sing to Angels wrote:

> I went to the Mad Knights site...   ... This was so funny that I felt it
> necessary to share it with all of you.
>

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Date:    Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:21:03 EST
From:    Sing to Angels <Sng2angels@a.......>
Subject: Re: Blood and Donuts

Actually, now that I have discovered that there is such a thing as The
Internet movie database....
  I discovered that the actor was Gordon Currie.....

    I haven't seen either Forever Knight or Blood and Donuts on TV for at
least a year or more. (ever since they cut it from Sci-fi)
  So I assume that you can all understand my confusion in remembering either
one. (sheepish smile)
 And I had thought that Oded Fahr played Miklos. At least that is what I
gathered from here. I honestly don't remember seeing him that often on the
show and according to several FK affiliations on here... it is Oded.

   STA

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