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FORKNI-L Digest - 24 Jul 2000 to 25 Jul 2000 (#2000-221)
Tue, 25 Jul 2000
There are 19 messages totalling 579 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. What the heck? (8)
2. John Kapelos in West Wing
3. Vengeance is Mine - review
4. [Re: [FORKNI-L] What the heck?]
5. Please to help? (beta request)
6. Crazy Love and Baby Baby
7. Crazy Love and Baby Baby (3)
8. Going to the UK
9. My favorite!!
10. Science Fiction Celebrities and Fans Charity Event
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:01:33 -0500
From: Kalira Isbell <KaliraRael@w.......>
Subject: Re: What the heck?
<<What would the General say???>>
Isn't Cambell's soup owned by (ahem) General Foods???
LOL Oh this is too rich!
Kalira
Dark Knightie, Caddywhack, Nick's Harem, FK Pagan, GWDFC, DMZ, KiD
KaliraRael@w.......
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good
with ketchup!
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:18:42 EDT
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: What the heck?
In a message dated 7/24/00 7:02:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
KaliraRael@w....... writes:
> Isn't Cambell's soup owned by (ahem) General Foods???
>
> LOL Oh this is too rich!
Hmmmm. I think LaCroix MIGHT like his ... vintage very rich. The lower
classes' blood probably has a gamey taste.
--Libs
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:19:39 -0700
From: fkforever <fkforever@y.......>
Subject: Re: What the heck?
<<Isn't Campbell's soup owned by (ahem) General Foods???>>
Well if the General can't have his armed forces... he'll have his labor
force(s). AKA the General of Food Service. LOL!
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:40:00 EDT
From: JKFCprez@a.......
Subject: John Kapelos in West Wing
Just wanted to mention John Kapelos can be seen in this Wednesday's episode
of WEST WING (a repeat).
Cal Lynn
JKFCprez@a.......
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:05:01 +1200
From: Knightraven <knightraven@c.......>
Subject: Re: What the heck?
> <<Isn't Campbell's soup owned by (ahem) General Foods???>>
Just what IS in Tomato soup??????
I wonder if Campbell tomato soup sales will now increase in high FK
locales...<eg>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:54:18 -0700
From: fkforever <fkforever@y.......>
Subject: Vengeance is Mine - review
Vengeance is Mine by Vickie Holt
ordering info can be found at http://members.home.net/nat1228/fk.htm
Great Job Vickie!!
I just finished reading this charity novel and cannot rave about it
enough. It is 128 pages, single spaced on 8 1/2 x 11 paper.
The story line is very strong with Nick, Tracy, and Vachon. Screed gets
his 15 minutes of fame, so to speak; and Tracy gets to put her father in
his place.
The plot is strong, well thought out, and flows very well. This is a must
to have for all FK fans, especially Dark Perks.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:14:23 CDT
From: "Emily M.Hanson" <emily.m.hanson@u.......>
Subject: Re: [Re: [FORKNI-L] What the heck?]
1. Tomatoes, or at least, that's what they want you to think.
2. Hey when it gets 20 to 30 below in the winter where you live (I live in
Minnesota), you're ready for ANY kind of soup.
Emily
Knightraven <knightraven@c.......> wrote:
Just what IS in Tomato soup??????
I wonder if Campbell tomato soup sales will now increase in high FK
locales...<eg>
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Emily M. Hanson
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:29:34 EDT
From: Javiette@a.......
Subject: Re: What the heck?
In a message dated 7/23/2000 11:53:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
thanato@b....... writes:
<< www.lacroix.com
If someone would please go check that out and let me know that I'm not
crazy or that my computer is just giving me problems, I'd really really
appreciate that. >>
What I think is the funniest is the quote in the middle of the page: "We
have a soup for that"
Makes one wonder what flavor of soup it is!!! Cow?
Rae
Javiette@a.......
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:03:05 +1200
From: Knightraven <knightraven@c.......>
Subject: Re: What the heck?
> What I think is the funniest is the quote in the middle of the page: "We
> have a soup for that"
> Makes one wonder what flavor of soup it is!!! Cow?
> Rae
> Javiette@a.......
Hmm...when it says beef...do they mean the meat...? I am beginning to think
not...<eg>
What flavour soup would our vampires like?
Supermodel supreme?
Country Bumpkin?
Creme of Coronel?
and for Nick...Daisy soup...<eg> and I don't mean the flower.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:13:08 GMT
From: Lorelei Sieja <lorisieja@h.......>
Subject: Re: What the heck?
I buy LACROIX water... its carbonated and flavored, but contains no sugar.
Tasty- would the General approve?
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:04:08 -0400
From: Amand-r <deparsons@e.......>
Subject: Re: What the heck?
> If someone would please go check that out and let me know that I'm not
> crazy or that my computer is just giving me problems, I'd really really
> appreciate that.
You're completely sane. How could we have ever have missed the LaCroix soup
fetish? Oh the things one does when they're really bored...I just don't see
him brewing up a pot of Chicken and Rice......
Amand-r, FK newbie
::not in the face! not in the face!::
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:38:26 -0400
From: Amand-r <deparsons@e.......>
Subject: Please to help? (beta request)
Posting with web mistress's permission.
The short version: I am a newbie. I have a fic arc I am writing for FK. I
need a beta.
The long version: It's pretty well formed now, and I have part one done for
release (sadly, I write in arcs). The grammar is good, but my eyes are only
so good, and I don't believe any soul should trust themselves as the only
beta. (Plus there's that littlwe 'I missed one or two eps' syndrome. Lord
forbid I get something wrong. I'd feel really stupid.).
The tired version: Eyes, hurt...arrrrgh.....
I am not new to fic. I usually write HL fic. I am sucked into FK.
Must...write...fic....arrr...if you are interested, please check out my page
if you are interested in that sort of thing.
Amand-r
http://www.crosswinds.net/~amandr
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 1956 03:30:33 +0000
From: Jeannie Ecklund <jecklund@l.......>
Subject: Re: Crazy Love and Baby Baby
Marg Yamanaka wrote:
>
>Glad to see that you are having fun with the eps. you should post
>this to FORKNI.
I wrote this to Marg and to several other good friends, she suggested
I share it with the list. It makes me a bit nervous but here goes:
I watched Crazy Love and Baby Baby today, Oh Baby Baby! I
never realised how tense those two shows are and how sexy Ger was in
them and that Last Love scene with Serena, that was him in a flash
back and not the guy she was with. I'd only seen it once I think and
never caught that. wow! And I thought I wouldn't enjoy either one.
Don't you think there is a climax there without the bite. Sorry this
isn't my usual frame of mind after FK watchig but these two got to me
:)= Whew!!!
These two shows were hot.
This seemed to be the beginning of the end for the search for
mortality for Nick. I think he kind of gave up here and started a
back wards spiral and that he never tryly loved Natalie. They
werejust good friends. I know Be My Valentine comes after but I
think his heart really was going in a different direction at this
point.
Well so much for my thoughts today.
Jeannie
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:28:59 GMT
From: Lorelei Sieja <lorisieja@h.......>
Subject: Re: Crazy Love and Baby Baby
I love these two eps, as well! And in Crazy Love, when a troubled Nick
tries to tell Nat that he understands the crazed killer, that he felt
needs, and he looked so desperate, and Nat just cuts him off. She tells him
that he doesn't have those needs any more, end of story. Then he turns to
Janette... some folks see this as he fault, that he can't be "true" to Nat,
but I always feel that she pushed him away. She couldn't understand his
true nature. I think this is probably the best ep in the series for
Immortal Beloveds...
As for Baby, Baby, I always wished Nick would have told Serena off. I
didn't feel sorry for her. I figure, she tried to use Nick to give her a
baby without commitment. She probably would have made a lousy mom. He
misunderstood, and never meant to hurt her. Also, Schenke makes some
comment about her being such a "looker"... I couldn't see it. But, what I
got from the ep that I missed the first time, was that Serena might have got
the urge to become mortal again from her master. Maybe he passed his quest
on to her through the blood? Maybe it wasn't his fault so much that she was
a vampire, but it was his fault that she was a dissatisfied one.
Just my two cents.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:07:26 -0500
From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: Crazy Love and Baby Baby
> Lorelei Sieja
> misunderstood, and never meant to hurt her. Also, Schenke makes some
> comment about her being such a "looker"... I couldn't see it. But, what I
I know a lot of people have commented on the fact that they didn't see Serena
as "a looker." I myself thought she was gorgeous, the way Marlene Dietrich was
gorgeous. She exuded such confident sensuality, she seemed to me to be very
much a liberated, intelligent woman of the Twenties. (Of course, she didn't
quite catch on that Nick wasn't human, but who believes in vampires, anyway? <g>)
I have a friend who works construction as a master carpenter, and she has that
same sardonic, f* you attitude towards men. Serena as a welder was perfect --
do you think any men on that crew gave her any crap? She would be able to cut
them down with one glance. Add in the whiskey-and-cigarettes voice, and you
have some inspired casting.
Oh! I just thought of something. The FBs are set in Paris (I think), and it's
just after WWI. Remember that an entire generation of young men in France and
England (and, I assume, Germany) were wiped out in the trenches, or were
seriously disabled, leaving an entire generation of young women without
husbands or fiancees, with scant prospects in the future. Serena could have
lost her love in the war. And the extreme stupidity of that war could have
kindled her distain for and bitterness towards men, as the creators of
world-wide disaster and her own personal losses and disappointments.
Uh-oh -- shouldn't try amateur psychology this early in the morning.
Must...get...more...tea....
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:38:54 -0400
From: Portia 1 <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: Crazy Love and Baby Baby
"I myself thought she was gorgeous, the way Marlene Dietrich was gorgeous. She
exuded such confident sensuality, she seemed to me to be very much a
liberated,intelligent woman of the Twenties."
All I know is that this was one of the *most* sensuous episodes of the whole
series! Both Nick and Serena radiated sexual energy and both came across as
consumate sexual predators. And that scene at the end when Nick just turns his
back, while his "daughter" is consuming her lover behind him -- does the word
"erotic" come to anyone else's mind? And LaCroix seemed to be enjoying himself
during the whole episode -- think he was appreciating the "sexual sizzle" in the
air?
"Oh! I just thought of something. The FBs are set in Paris (I think), and it's
just after WWI. Remember that an entire generation of young men in France and
England (and, I assume, Germany) were wiped out in the trenches, or were
seriously disabled, leaving an entire generation of young women without
husbands or fiancees, with scant prospects in the future. Serena could have
lost her love in the war. And the extreme stupidity of that war could have
kindled her distain for and bitterness towards men, as the creators of
world-wide disaster and her own personal losses and disappointments."
Nancy, I think this is an excellent analysis of the character and her
motivations! And it makes me think how much more of a "catch" Nick must have
seemed -- not only whole and healthy, but handsome and debonair and apparently
untouched by the war.
Portia
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:21:06 GMT
From: Susan Cuthbertson <suzicuth@h.......>
Subject: Going to the UK
Late next spring (or early summer) I will be traveling to the UK with some
family to do some touristy stuff and genealogical research, if there is
someone in the FK family that would communicate with me off list, I would
appreciate it. I know this is a long time away, but... time flies when you
are planning.
Suzi
suzicuth@h....... or suzicuth@u.......
"According to our records,
the world did not begin in 1988"--UMI poster
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 14:26:03 +0000
From: Jeannie Ecklund <jecklund@l.......>
Subject: Re: My favorite!!
Back to Baby Baby, why would she think that it would be instantaneous.
It takes time for the little swimmers to get where they are going. I
would think a pregnant Vampire would gradually become human as she
became more pregnant. Hormonal changes an all. Nick sure had a losing
streak when chosing candidates for "offspring". He didn't communicate
with them well and he didn't know them well enough to know if they
could handle the power of the vampire.
Do you think LaCroix with held a lot of training from Nick to keep him
more under his power? Or was it becasue Nick turned away so fast that
he just wasn't able to give him the proper training.
I'm so full of questions. This list is wonderful. Hope you can all
put up with my "ignorant newness."
For those of you who know the series in context. Does the taking of
blood from Nat's brother Richard send him in a different direction.
I'd never seen most of the first season untila few weeks ago and Nick
is so close to human and then he changes and goes back so much.
Jeannie
jecklund@l.......
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:29:33 +0000
From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Science Fiction Celebrities and Fans Charity Event
Forwarded for Susan:
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Please post to your readers and pass along to contacts. I know Kick Start
the Knight has there cause and I've written letters to vertualy everyone on
the powers that be list. Could you posibly put in a little plug for this.
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Contact: Timothy Fleming, press_sec@u.......; Alisa
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