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FORKNI-L Digest - 9 Jul 2000 to 10 Jul 2000 - Special issue (#2000-203)
Mon, 10 Jul 2000
There are 25 messages totalling 1034 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Knight School - Ep.104 - Last Act (5)
2. Need Help With An Acronym......
3. FK fonts (3)
4. Alumni Alert
5. Knight School (2)
6. Nick's phone
7. YKYBWTMFK...
8. Seeking the lost... (2)
9. Knight School 104 -- the Forever Vet's take
10. vamp factions
11. Knight School - Ep 104 - Last Act (2)
12. YKYBSTMTWFK
13. Knight School 104 --
14. [[FORKNI-L] Knight School - Ep.104 - Last Act]
15. Erica on stage in the flashback
16. Admin: Forkni-l rules
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 16:07:17 -0500
From: Kalira Isbell <KaliraRael@w.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep.104 - Last Act
<<My guess is that, since sometime in the mid 50s, Nick has come up with
a *long* list of plausable explanitions for those bottles of blood.>>
Now, which 50's would this be? 1250's? 1350's? 1450's? 1550's?
1650's? 1750's? 1850's? or good ole 1950's? <eg>
KaliraRael
Dark Knightie, Caddywhack, Nick's Harem, FK Pagan, GWDFC, DMZ, KiD
KaliraRael@w.......
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good
with ketchup!
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 16:14:52 -0500
From: Kalira Isbell <KaliraRael@w.......>
Subject: Re: Need Help With An Acronym......
IIRC.......If I Recall Correctly
does that help, BL??
PS. Nice talking to you again.
Kalira
Dark Knightie, Caddywhack, Nick's Harem, FK Pagan, GWDFC, DMZ, KiD
KaliraRael@w.......
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good
with ketchup!
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 17:43:01 EDT
From: Alifoxx@a.......
Subject: Re: FK fonts
fkforever wrote:
<<The FK Logo has two fonts.
The first font is the word "Forever" and the second is the FK font.>>
Sorry to inform you, but the "Knight" in the title is not really the FK font.
It looks like it somewhat, but truly isn't the same. Jamie Randall did a
great job of giving an FK look to her font, but it isn't the same. I believe
that "Knight" is a graphic created just for the look. The other...the forever
part may also be a graphic but probably can be simulated.....I'll look
further into it.
JL
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 17:46:37 EDT
From: JKFCprez@a.......
Subject: Alumni Alert
I can't recall if this has been posted or not, but thought I would mention
that John Kapelos has filmed a guest appearance on FIRST WAVE for the SciFi
Channel. He tells me he plays a talk show host, but wouldn't fess up to
whether he's one of the aliens or not. :)
-- Cal
Cal Lynn
JKFCprez@a.......
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:20:51 +0900
From: Raven Breena <raven@n.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School
>Yes, please, let's stretch the wonderful ep. descriptions and the questions
>to once a week.
*bows to the listmommy*
As you say...but I can't guarantee I'll be able to send them out in 5months
or so...It's going to get hectic; I'll do what I can.
<g>
Cousin Raven
raven@n.......
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:24:55 +0900
From: Raven Breena <raven@n.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's phone
>Nick could have received that wonderfully ironic call about the
>Hawaiian vacation even if his number isn't in the book.
Yes, but doesn't Alyce look his number up in the phone book to get his
address?
Cousin Raven Breena
raven@n.......
http://www.naturesong.com
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and
astonish the rest." - Mark Twain
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:41:55 +0900
From: Raven Breena <raven@n.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep.104 - Last Act
>Oh, I don't know about
>Canada, but in the ER's I have worked in, *Paddles* are used to shock someone
>back to life <G>
Lol! maybe that's why it didn't work, the spinters from the pallet just
created more wounds and didn't help his heart...
Sorry, mistakes happen!
Cousin Raven Breena
raven@n.......
http://www.naturesong.com
"Always do right. This will gratify some people and
astonish the rest." - Mark Twain
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:28:50 -0500
From: "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: FK fonts
JL wrote:
> same. I believe that "Knight" is a graphic created just for the look. The
> other...the forever part may also be a graphic but probably can be
> simulated.....I'll look further into it.
I'm pretty sure, too, that the Knight is a graphic. However, I've simulated
the Forever part with Peignot Medium, a TrueType font, setting the kerning
very loose with a spread of .25 (those are PageMaker settings).
Most sans serif fonts (the ones without the little tails and flourishes on
them, such as Arial or Helvetica), spread out and set in small caps, would
probably serve.
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......
"Whoever dies with the most fonts, wins. I have 894."
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 22:56:50 EDT
From: BJDFKFan@a.......
Subject: Re: FK fonts
Someone on this list quite a long time ago now had found a font called "Ultra
Bronzo" that looks like the "Forever" in the FK logo. I subsequently found
the website that has "Ultra Bronzo", but alas, it was too rich for my blood.
I haven't found a freeware/shareware version of this font, and the "Ultra
Bronzo" folks were selling it I think for over $100. I don't recall the
location of the website, but when I did find it, it was just by using a
search engine (I probably used hotbot) and typing in the name of the font. I
am going to check out the font Nancy suggested...I haven't seen that one.
Becky -- DFKS, DK, IB, DT, UF, Ravenette, Cousin, FOD
http://members.aol.com/BJDFKFan, http://members.aol.com/DKfanfic
We're cut adrift, but still floating. I'm only hanging on to watch you go
down...my love. (Bono, U2)
The world was bankrupted of ten million fine actions the night she passed on.
(paraphrased from Ray Bradbury's F. 451, in memory of Libby M.)
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:47:39 -0000
From: Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFK...
...When you're at a minor league baseball game and the announcer begins
listing birthdays by saying "let's wish Billy Jones a Happy Birthday. He's
9 years old today" and you wonder what the reaction would be if he said
"Let's wish Nick Knight a happy birthday. He's 772 years old today"
Barb
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:32:10 -0400
From: "Stephanie S. Babbitt" <sbabbitt@b.......>
Subject: Re: Seeking the lost...
Kyer wrote:
>Does anybody know if Mel and Lady LaCroix are okay?
Mel is okay, if somewhat frazzled. Her company just moved into a new
building, taking all their large, complex computers with them, and since
she's a sysadmin, this means many, many, many hours of work for her. Right
now, she's lucky to get enough time to sleep, let alone do FK stuff. Not to
worry, though--she'll be back with us soon, and will probably be doing a
site update shortly.
Reporting from Atlanta,
Stephanie B.
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 06:29:33 -0700
From: Greer <wyldechilde_2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep.104 - Last Act
Hey everyone!
I'm new to the list but I love Forever Knight!
Especially La Croix.....eyes glaze over at the thought
of the elderly one.....and Vachon. (I think it's
something to do with the fact that I imagine both of
them irritating Nick in completely different ways.)
Anyhow. On to the Questions
Questions:
1. Wasn't the poofy white shirt in the flashbacks
divine?
If you like that sort of thing. Personally at this
point I was still in shock over them *seemingly*
killing off La Croix. But I suppose that for someone
who'd killed off his really cool sire he was looking
pretty good.
2. And what if Schanke had poured himself a glass of
'wine'? How would
they have gotten out of that one? (Barring hypnosis,
that would be too easy.)
Nicholas snatches it from him....sniffs it and says
'Damn! I knew I shouldn't have bought that case of
wine from your cousin, Schanke! I want a refund!"
Or fakes a fit to distract him. Now I have this image
of Nick rolling melodramatically on the floor,
clutching at his throat, in an attempt to portray
someone about to keel over while Schanke putters about
the kitchen in total oblivion.
3. Do you think Erica was really there, or Nick was
just having an 'episode'?
Well we had ghosts AND demons later on so she might
have been real. On the other hand considering Nick's
diet it's probably not inconceivable that he's having
delusions and hallucinations. I mean he's starving
himself, exposing himself to harmful radiation
regularly (the sun :) and ingesting poisonous and
harmful substances (food and garlic pills). I'm not
suprised he's seeing things.
4. Do you think that Erica's presence (real or
imagined) would have
eventually gotten Nick to step into the sunlight?
He does have a bit of a masochistic streak going at
times doesn't he? Though of course he did come from a
period when Mortification of the Flesh was a common
way to perform penance. However I don't think he'd
ever step into the sunlight. His whole search is for
redemption after all....forgiveness for his
sins....which is why he became a cop. And since he
was raised a good and militant Catholic (he WAS a
Crusader after all) he has to believe that suicide
would only add another stain to his soul.
=====
Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.
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Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:12:28 -0500
From: "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: Seeking the lost...
STephanie wrote:
> she's a sysadmin, this means many, many, many hours of work
> for her. Right now, she's lucky to get enough time to sleep, let alone do FK
> stuff. Not to worry, though--she'll be back with us soon, and will probably
> be doing a site update shortly.
Aha! Glad to know she's okay -- thanks for the update, Stephanie! So we'll
be able to find out the results of the fk fanfic awards soon, then.
Cheers, Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 00:14:14 EDT
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Knight School
In a message dated 7/9/00 10:42:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
JUDYCAT@p....... writes:
<< shouldn't the episodes be stretched out to a couple a week instead of every
day? Just a suggestion.
>>
I agree. Woith the volume of mail generated by the Knight School, I'm too
tired to respond after reading so many messages. Since most people aren't on
line everyday, the mail builds up and becomes too hard to answer.
Twice a week would be better.
KnightWitch ;-]=
"Well that's just my opinion...I could be wrong." Dennis Miller
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 04:20:29 -0500
From: "Janet Dornhoff, DVM" <dornhoff@p.......>
Subject: Knight School 104 -- the Forever Vet's take
Cousin Raven -- Thank you *so* much for doing these! Please take our
clamouring for once-a-week distribution to be the compliment it is
intended to be -- give us a chance to savor each morsel! <g>
> Knight School
> Episode: 104 Last Act
*Blissful Sigh* Definitely one of my favorite episodes. I'm an eternal
optimist, one of the reasons I'm a NatPacker. And Nat's comments about
the play sum up this episode beautifully -- "Even though it was all about
death, I found it very life-affirming."
> Later, in the locker room, she (the doctor) relaxes a bit and takes a
> shower. While in the shower, someone she obviously knows (in doctor
> scrubs), attacks her and blood flows down the drain...
I remember that dead-on-your-feet, I-feel-so-useless-sometimes feeling,
of having way too much piled on you way too fast. Any one thing, you
can deal with, but there's no chance to recover in between! I'm very
glad that vet med doesn't *require* the brutal residencies med students
go through...our senior year is like that, but rotations are only three
weeks, so you can alternate ER and onco and surgery with radiology
and anesthesia and other easy rotations. I only had to feel that bad
a few times during senior year. I think it was the interns who were
the worst off, and my heart went out to them.
But, it's true, that *is* what life as a resident it like. And people
*do* survive it. It's pretty clear that she would have, which makes us
feel her tragedy all the more keenly.
> and flashes back to being a player on stage
> (with a wonderful musketeer hat).
A nice fight scene. Believably done for the primitive circumstances
it was performed in. I'm not sure about the timing, since as I recall
women weren't allowed on stage during Shakespeare's days and there was
a genuine woman. When did that attitude change? Erica clearly was
passing for a young man on-stage here; not sure if she would have been
fooling the rest of the company too or if they'd gladly help a fellow
player put one over on the rubes.
> Later, in the dressing room, Nick and the woman are apparently
> lovers.
Vampire style, which was fun to see! Is that both-necks-at-once style
the vamp equivalent of a sixty-nine? <eg>
> friend adds to the theory, telling them about a patient that she was friends
> with.
I don't think she was friends with the code blue, she was just the
doctor that caught that call. And the woman seemed more of a supervisor
or boss than a friend, her attentions to the resident sort of maternal
and protective but kind of impersonal, too. What we wish our teachers
and supervisors would be, but still acting within that role.
> At the lab, Nat discovers the cuts are very deep and can't determine if she
> committed suicide or not.
Nat is perfect in the role of devil's advocate, someone to bounce
ideas off of and to throw some back in return. And it is true that
suicides can happen in unexpected ways, for unexpected reasons.
> The woman tells Nick about the memories she sees in his blood, and that she
> hates the thought of dying, but she will die when life becomes unbearable.
(And CBS cut out the whole memories-in-the-blood thing. You SFC kids
have no idea what a revelation it was to learn that little tidbit
about the Crusades!)
Her reasoning is so darn *reasonable*. Ethical. If you're not giving
more than you're taking, what good are you? Except I think people
give more than they realize, take less than they realize. But Erica's
explanation that vampires must give more than others, to make up for
the lives they take, also makes sense. And dying too soon is terrible,
but wouldn't there come a time when the time has come? And isn't it
equally wrong to delay past that point?
I take Nick's side in this arguement -- I can't picture that loss of
enthusiasm ever happening, not to me at least. The world is too
exciting, too interesting. It's always changing, and it's so big,
that I just don't see how you could ever run out of things you want
to do and see. But if anyone ever *did* lose that love of life,
then I think I would feel pity rather than disapproval or blame
if they chose to end it all, and go see what comes next.
> Nick is going to investigate this case even though he's got lots of others,
> he just has to know if it was suicide.
Just goes to show Nick is a good cop. He won't short-change one
case just because it has the bad fortune to hit him when he's
already busy. Especially considering that he's sort of investigating
Erica's suicide, too...
> Back at the loft, Nick comes out in jeans and a blue shirt (wow! Even I'm
> impressed!)
He does look yummy in that outfit, doesn't he? ;-)
The answering machine message is typical Schanke, and shows how these
two opposite-shift partners must work when Schanke isn't pulling OT to
overlap. And I'm betting that Schanke's parting word was "Chow,"
not "Ciao!" :p
> He sticks his pinkie in it and it smokes. A second
> later he removes it and looks at it.
Must be awfully tempting to try out little painful things like that,
knowing that Erica had felt it all over, when you know that you're
immortal and it'll heal up with no scars. Get into a minor
self-destructive mood, and it's easy to play with fire, so to speak.
Is it that vampires don't feel pain, even from sunburn, or is it
that pain isn't so scary when it doesn't carry any risk of lasting
harm?
> She reaches to kiss him and tries to draw
> him into the sunlight. He stops and she fades away.
If she was so darn lonely, why didn't she seek out other people?
Perhaps she was lonely for others who felt the same way she did,
although you'd think the Raven would have a few hanging around.
Maybe she was convinced that if she approached anyone close enough
to find out if they felt that way, she would "infect" them with
her fears, her loss of what it means to be alive.
> He discovers she was friends with Dean, a patient who
> moonlights as a circus clown for the hospital children. He is a obviously
> a cancer patient on chemotherapy and is tired from the show.
An excellent acting job from a relatively minor character. Another
of the things we love about FK! There may be only fifty actors in
Canada, but they're almost all good ones! ;-)
> Driving through Toronto, Nick sees Erica next to him, again, taunting him to
> give up this life.
Another great monologue from Erica. Her description of the boulevards
at night came back to me during a visit to New Orleans last year, and
at other times as well. What a contrast, between streets of the past
and streets now! (Although Pat Elrod's descriptions of London a couple
hundred years ago remind me that cities could be pretty crowded back
then, too, right on back to Rome...)
And at least driving with ghosts seems to be safer than driving
while flashbacking.... <eg>
> Back at the station, Stonetree talks to Nick about a message he received
> from the hospital administrator who resents the fact that Nick is
> insinuating it might not have been suicide.
Did this woman have any purpose other than to act as a red herring?
She doesn't seem entirely consistent sometimes. She's a nice person
when one of her residents is worn out, but then she gets in the way
of the police investigating her death. Maybe she just doesn't want
anyone slowing down the efficiency of the ER, but that wasn't how
she seemed in her first scene...maybe if she'd been less obviously
a plot device it would have worked better.
> He talks Stonetree into giving
> him one more day to prove that the doctor did not commit suicide. (Without
> hypnotism, impressive.)
Did Nick *ever* hypnotise Stonetree? I like to think he never did, that
everything from permanent night shift to one more day on a given case,
was done man to man, not vampire to victim. Nick respected Stonetree
more than that. One of the (many) things I liked about first season.
> At the Raven, Nick shows Janette Erica's ring. She tells Nick that Erica
> grew tired of this world and didn't want him to know.
One of the times that Janette shows her age. She may only be two
centuries older than Nick, but in some ways she's a lot more grown
up as a vampire. She seems to understand Erica, although I don't
think she agrees with her. She's seen it all before, living among
her own kind as she does. She knows how inevitable this was, how
useless it would have been to try to stop Erica -- how does she know?
What lost friends are there in Janette's past? Who did *she* try
to stop?
> she says when she dies she will be old and tired; she talks
> about how they cannot leave children behind.
A dilemma many infertile couples have to face, but often solve by
having their influence on children that they didn't give birth to,
but nevertheless they bring up to pass on as much as they can.
In a way, Erica did take that route; the young actress seemed quite
taken with her. Why didn't she mentor others in that way? Or was
mentoring this girl what finally made her feel she had passed on what
she could and it was time to move on?
> she had written a play called "The Last Act" and was very excited about it.
Interesting image, to think that she was excited about the play, not for
its own sake but because its opening would herald her suicide. Because
if she was excited about it for its own sake, then she would still be
living. She said she would be a taker "when the plays I write cease
to amuse me."
> He tells her that he's recently lost an old friend.
Love the reaction to that one. "Old friend takes on a whole new
meaning with you!" In fact, Natalie's whole attitude was fun.
She *knows* Nick, knows his moods, knows how to knock him out
of a bad one.
And this scene is also the reason I will *never* consider
"Last Knight" to be a real episode. I just can't buy a
suicidal Natalie, no way, no how! Not after watching this
one fifty times during the hiatus reruns!
> Nat reveals that she found out the young doctor was pregnant.
Found it interesting that they took that pregnancy as evidence she
*wouldn't* have committed suicide. I would have thought pregnancy
would be a common *trigger* for suicide. I suppose their reasoning
as to why not makes sense, though; as a doctor, she would likely
have known long before that point and if it were the trigger she'd
have done it earlier.
> Schanke shows up at the doctor's boyfriend's house
> and asks him some questions.
The direction in this scene is fun. Schanke just walks right in,
starts picking things up, messing with the guy's stuff, flops down
in a chair uninvited...it's a technique some cops use to put the
other guy off balance. (And a GameMaster I know used that in a
D&D game to make the players really *hate* the villain -- he was
messing with their stuff!)
> Back at the bullpen, they discuss the case.
With Nick perched on the desk...very yummy! ;-)
> Stonetree lets him go because he likes
> the sudden passion he's expressing.
A smart Captain, giving his detective his head when he's on the trail.
He who manages least manages best, and all that. A good boss is part
psychologist and Stonetree shows that several times in this ep.
> Erica's play expresses her feelings for Nick in a way he could never
> realize, and expresses how she felt about life in the form of herself as a
> grandmother talking to a child.
A beautiful piece of writing here. The play expresses such wonderful
hope, such love of life. If Erica truely was tired of it, at least
this shows that she *lived* her life, and enjoyed every minute of it
until the end. She didn't go out sadly, but with a sense of completion.
> ...and Schnake says they think they were 'very close'.
I thought it was Nick that said that? Just for the archive...
(checks tape) Yup, it was Nick. Schanke sounded surprised
afterwards in the caddy, too.
> She says she's waiting for him to
> follow, and he says he finds life exciting still. She says "the time will
> come" and he replies, "No, not by my own hand."
Erica's skepticism about Nick ever becoming mortal makes me wonder
whether, if she *had* believed it possible, she might not have wanted
to go back, herself. She could have had children if she did, and
maybe that would have been enough hope to keep her around.
> Back at the hospital, Nick changes places with Dean,
One bit in this scene struck me this time...when Schanke shows Nick
where he'll be hiding, and tells him he should be able to hear what's
going on and will come running if Nick shouts, Nick grasps his hand,
saying, "Thanks, man," in a very normal, human little moment between
*partners*. Nick's back to being a part of the world! Subtleties
like that are the icing on the cake.
> Nick catches him and beats on him a bit.
Rather depressing way to phrase it! :(
> "Think of the paperwork..."
Great line! Schanke's sense of humor does more to snap him out of
his fit than anything more serious would have, plus it reminds him
of the facade he has to work so hard to maintain.
Also liked the quiet little, "Don't let go!" from the bad guy.
> and Schanke arrests him (the bad guy, not Nick).
Not that Nick wouldn't get slapped with a brutality charge if anyone
actually believed the BGotW!
And how appropriate that this episode closes with a shot of the
sun rising to light a new day!
> Questions:
>
> 1. Wasn't the poofy white shirt in the flashbacks divine?
Kinda cute. I like him perched on the desk more, though. ;-)
> 2. And what if Schanke had poured himself a glass of 'wine'? How would
> they have gotten out of that one? (Barring hypnosis, that would be too
> easy.)
Schanke would never drink on duty! He was on his lunch break,
remember. But you would think Nick would get at least some food,
maybe canned and frozen, to offer to mortal friends and keep up
the facade. Perhaps he should put labels on his bottles
identifying the contents as pure unsweetened cranberry juice...I had
a bottle once, and *nobody* would want to drink that!
> 3. Do you think Erica was really there, or Nick was just having an
> 'episode'?
I think ghosts exist in this universe, and this was probably, but
not definitely, one of them. Maybe a little of each -- Erica was
such a strong presence, but her actual appearance probably was
shaped by Nick.
> 4. Do you think that Erica's presence (real or imagined) would have
> eventually gotten Nick to step into the sunlight?
Depends. In a vacuum, yes, because Nick's moods are easily influenced.
But with a world around him, Natalie pushing him to live, the Captain
and Schanke and the challenge of his cases... Never. Nick *does* still
find life exciting, and occasional moods aside, he enjoys it. I don't
see that changing.
> 5. How do you get a single remote to control your fireplace *and* your
> steel shutters? (A remote controlled fireplace?!? I've never seen that
> anywhere else.)
All you gotta do is build it yourself and hook up the remote circuits
to whatever you want the remote to control. If you've been watching
electronics evolve and keeping up with the basics, then it's a snap.
And if it's a gas fireplace, it's easy enough to set up a system to
open the valve and set off the spark via a remote trigger.
This episode has almost everything I love about FK. Nick being
a detective *and* a brooding vampire, Natalie knocking sense into
him, Schanke showing his skill as a cop but also his sardonic wit.
The three of them just hanging out, as friends and as colleagues.
The meshing of Nick and his world with the mortal world. Janette
as the voice of vampire society, but with the feeling of so many
layers, so much untold history behind her. And a wonderfully
positive overall theme/message. We look into the blackness, and
come out still believing in the light.
About the only thing missing is LaCroix in a flashback. Guess
you can't have everything.
(Hmmm...just realized that two other favorites of mine, "I Will Repay"
and "Only the Lonely," *also* don't have LaCroix in them. Gosh, will
the Cousins ever forgive me? Does it help that "Feeding the Beast"
has him in all his sibilant glory? <g>)
-Janet <dornhoff@p.......>
The Forever Vet -- NatPack, despite the name!
"Okay, so we're feeling a little self-destructive..."
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:02:40 +0200
From: Lorin <vachesang@s.......>
Subject: vamp factions
In a message dated July 08, 2000 10:37 PM,
Laudon1965@a....... writes:
> So you're saying LaCroix is a Vacquero? <g>
Hmmm... wonder what faction they'd all be if they discovered this list?
Assuming they'd join their *own* faction, o'course... I can see Nat
joining the NA, just to see what the 'opposition' is up to... Tracy
would be a Vacquero - gotta keep track of him *somehow* <g>, Nick would
keep an eye on the DP's to pick up some tips... ;)
any others?
Debi McK
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:48:05 -0400
From: clarkcindy <clarkcindy@e.......>
Subject: Knight School - Ep 104 - Last Act
5. How do you get a single remote to control your fireplace *and* your steel
shutters? (A remote controlled fireplace?!? I've never seen that anywhere
else.)
I know! Universal remote with **two** auxillary buttons <hehehehehe>
I know this means I've spent too much time at Home Depot, but I've seen
universal remotes that will control up to 5 objects at once. They also
offer the little infra-red add-on devices for your ceiling fans, so I don't
think it would take an electronic wizard to put one on a gas fireplace. As
for the window blinds, even though there not the heavy steel ones, Pella
already offers this as a feature on some of their windows. Anyway, working
several items from one remote has never struck me as a problem with this
episode.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:56:08 -0400
From: clarkcindy <clarkcindy@e.......>
Subject: YKYBSTMTWFK
You know you've been spending too much time with FK when you're walking past
the food-court in the mall and see a stand for Uncle's Waffles and start
snickering so loudly with repressed laughter that other people start looking
at you like you need to join Billie Lee (wave) in Re-hab.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:03:59 -0400
From: "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep.104 - Last Act
<<1. Wasn't the poofy white shirt in the flashbacks divine?>>
Ummmm...divine......yesss....<sigh>....
Now out of that poofy white shirt....ummmm....even better ;-)
Hmmm. I don't know. Haven't you ever had a present that's wrapped so well
that it's more enjoyable just to look at it and imagine what's inside?
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:53:39 -0400
From: "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School 104 --
> "Think of the paperwork..."
I think that this scene, despite Nick having his back turned, is evidence
that Schanke *had* figured out what Nick was in DK1, but chose to take
Stonetree's advice and accept the situation for what it was. Nick was a
good cop and his partner, and as long as Schanke wasn't considered lunch,
Nick's secret was safe with him.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:50:50 -0500
From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep 104 - Last Act
> 5. How do you get a single remote to control your fireplace *and* your
> steel shutters? (A remote controlled fireplace?!? I've never seen that
anywhere
> else.) I know! Universal remote with **two** auxillary buttons <hehehehehe>
Have to chime in here. When we had our gas fireplace installed we could have
gotten a remote for it. And my brother did opt for the remote with his, so
instead of pressing the switch on the front of the fireplace screen, he presses
a button. Whoosh! Instant fire, just like Nick!
Yes, Virginia, fireplace remotes DO exist.
I could see Nick simply hiring someone to build his system and the remote to
control it all. He's got all those millions, you know. (sidenote: bet he'd love
Bill Gates' new house, with all its automation and intelligent systems!)
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:02:04 -0500
From: Emma Lighton <elighton@b.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep.104 - Last Act
><<My guess is that, since sometime in the mid 50s, Nick has come up with
>a *long* list of plausable explanitions for those bottles of blood.>>
>
>Now, which 50's would this be? 1250's? 1350's? 1450's? 1550's?
>1650's? 1750's? 1850's? or good ole 1950's? <eg>
>
1950's. He seemed a little stumped for an answer in the Spin Doctor flashback.
I'm not sure that commitee would have bought the paint thickener excuse,
but it would have sounded better than nothing.
Anyone think his chances would have been better if he'd assured them it
came from genuine American cows, not commie cows?
Emma (elighton@b.......)
Vaquera * DPheretic * T+Vpack * FKMac-er Head Mouse Clicker
Survivor of Wars 9 and 10
"Pulvis et umbra sumus." -Horace
http://members.tripod.com/~lostshadows/main.html
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:36:13 CDT
From: "Emily M.Hanson" <emily.m.hanson@u.......>
Subject: Re: [[FORKNI-L] Knight School - Ep.104 - Last Act]
Raven Breena <raven@n.......> wrote:
<snip snip snippity snip - cutting out part of message>
Questions:
1. Wasn't the poofy white shirt in the flashbacks divine?
Now I didn't see this particular ep, but I have always thought
the FK actors look great in medieval garb, especially Ger. <g>
2. And what if Schanke had poured himself a glass of 'wine'? How would
they have gotten out of that one? (Barring hypnosis, that would be too
easy.)
For those of us who follow the theory that Schanke had figured out Nick's
little secret from the start (of course, playing dumb the whole time
because he didn't want to get brainwashed), it would have made a very
intriguing plot twist. Imagine Nick trying to use the excuse about the
painting, and Schanke not buying it. Of course, then Nick
would have had to whammy him, but hey, Schanke would have figured it out all
over again. I think he's a lot smarter than he lets on.
4. Do you think that Erica's presence (real or imagined) would have
eventually gotten Nick to step into the sunlight?
Depends on how angsty he was feeling at the moment. He'd have
probably been saved by a last second phone call from Nat or something
like that. They just couldn't have ended the series that early.
5. How do you get a single remote to control your fireplace *and* your
steel shutters? (A remote controlled fireplace?!? I've never seen that
anywhere else.)
Me neither, and I'd love to find one!
Emily M. Hanson
http://www.starbase-eprime.com
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:09:55 -0400
From: mclisa@m.......
Subject: Erica on stage in the flashback
From the clothes, the time was ca. 1700, maybe later, by which time women
were normal on the English stage. The change came after the Restoration,
1660, under European influence.
Cousin McLisa (Lisa McDavid) "That will be Trouble."
mclisa@m.......
Listowner Forkni-l, Fkfic-l, Fkv4s-l
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:33:32 -0400
From: mclisa@m.......
Subject: Admin: Forkni-l rules
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