FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 4 Jul 2000 to 5 Jul 2000 - Special issue (#2000-194)
Wed, 5 Jul 2000
There are 17 messages totalling 1030 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Why We Should Change the Name of Forever Knight University If we do it...
2. Joy of the Desolate
3. Snix needs her own stories
4. Forever Knight College posts (was: FK University uh, school)
5. [[FORKNI-L] Why We Should Change the Name of Forever KnightUniversity If
we do it...]
6. Why We Should Change the Name of ... (2)
7. [[FORKNI-L] Why We Should Change the Name of Forever Knight University
If...
8. Wolfster's back!
9. Knight School - Ep.000 - Nick Knight (6)
10. Knight School - Ep.000 - Nick Knight & YKYHBWTMFKW
11. [[FORKNI-L] Knight School - Ep.000 - Nick Knight]
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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 17:17:12 EDT
From: Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: Why We Should Change the Name of Forever Knight University If we
do it...
In a message dated 07/03/2000 5:45:42 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
McCelt2000@a....... writes:
<< This hit me on the way to work today <LOL>
The **acronym** for Forever Knight Universitym would be........well just
think on it a minute, LOL LOL LOL, maybe a different name? >>
I love it. To me that's all the more reason to leave it the way it is. <g>
Laurie of the Isles
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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 16:19:48 -0500
From: Barbara Aszman Stone <StoneB@g.......>
Subject: Joy of the Desolate
Missed the opening, but did get to see the play, which I enjoyed
very much. Was distressed though, when I read the review in the
Chicago Tribune, which my mother (a Chicagoan) had saved for me.
Following is my rebuttal, which I mailed to the Trib. I think it
highly unlikely that they will print it, but you never know:
After seeing Oliver Mayer's _The Joy of the Desolate_ at the Apple
Tree Theater on Friday, June 30, I must respectfully disagree with Chris
Jones's review of the play (_Tribune_, June 15). Jones quite properly
praises the cast, but unfairly criticizes the structure of the play and its
direction. Put off by the "innumerable short scenes", countless thorny
issues, flashing lights and blackouts, Jones does not realize that Mayer
and director Geraint Wyn Davies may have intended the audience to feel a bit
disoriented. How better to make the secure occupants of plush theater
seats share the protagonist's confusion? D.C., a Cornell first-year
student fresh from the Pima reservation, must deal with racism, his
abandonment by his mother, and the recent death of his father, in addition
to the usual problems of adjustment and homesickness faced by most college
freshmen.
Far from "choking on thematic pretension", _Joy of the Desolate_
presents a clear central theme, quite distinct from all the issues that
complicate the protagonist's life: No matter how alone we feel, regardless
of how many troubles we have, we must and can learn to find joy in this
life--through forgiveness, freedom, and song.
Jones, (or a scissor-wielding editor) is also guilty of lack of
clarity. It is impossible to know what is meant by "competing...styles
and metaphors" because no examples are given. Styles of what? Metaphors
for what? If the many styles of music were what disturbed the reviewer,
the dialogue makes it clear that Mayer wishes to favor no single musical
tradition: All music is a source of joy.
The reviewer appears to have forgotten that theater does not have to
be realistic in order to express essential truths. So what if the
characters "ignore the demands of a Northeast winter" and "wear the same
stuff for days". I have noticed that ignoring the demands of an Iowa
winter is fairly common at the college where I teach. Jackets are seldom
zipped, heads remain uncovered, waterproof boots are unheard of, and a
couple of students are famous for sporting shorts and sandals in all
weather. Occasionally an especially busy student does wear the same outfit
for days, but more often it only seems that way because the average
classroom is a sea of tees and jeans. I didn't mind seeing D.C. only on
the days he wore his favorite Cornell shirt and I found it comically
touching that the choir members dutifully obeyed their director's typical
exhortations to avoid colds and bundle up by pulling on stocking caps and
draping mufflers around jacket-less bodies.
Mercifully, Jones's insistence on realism does not extend to set
design! The masterful arrangement of windows suspended above the stage
(suggesting chapel, bar, or building exteriors depending on the lighting),
the slight rise and handful of cables that hinted at a bridge, and the
antique piano stool positioned before the phantom organ--all escaped
unscathed.
The reviewer's objection to incomplete character development is on
somewhat more solid ground. Certainly the "big-hearted hooker" is written
as an archetype, but Ora Jones was so much fun to watch that I found this
defect forgivable. The "tough-love choir director", however, is more
complicated than that, given his conflicted feelings for the minister. The
protagonist's character is complete enough, though, and I wonder if any
sketchiness in the other characters is really a fault or simply a
reflection of the fact that we never perceive all the complexity of the
people who surround us.
Since Jones does not explain the charge that "the Native-American
issues and symbols in the play and production do not convey authenticity",
it is difficult to know whether to agree or disagree. I suspect that there
may be a grain of truth here, but as a non-Native-American I cannot presume
to be certain. Furthermore, I remember no Native-American "symbols" in
the play. Either I missed them or the play has evolved over time or this
is an instance of careless writing. D.C. does not strike one as Native-
American, but as he is of mixed blood and has been cut off or has cut
himself off from his Native-American heritage, this is not surprising.
D.C. says he used to listen to the traditional songs, but he never sang
them, never learned the words, was "never part of the circle". If the
Native-American music heard in the play is inauthentic it would scarcely
matter, as we hear it filtered through D.C.'s memory. D.C.'s mother, in
her jeans and tie-dyed top, is definitely not the traditional Pima
matriarch. Educated by whites for jobs the white world denied her, she
took refuge in drugs and alcohol and abandoned her son. Her
marginalization and alienation ring true.
Geraint Wyn Davies has been widely quoted as saying that there
should be a spirit of cooperation among actors and director, that the job
of creating theater should be fun. As an actor, he prefers not to work
under authoritarian directors and as a director, he likes to give the
actors scope to express their own ideas. From the discussion following
Friday's performance, I gather that he has not changed his style of
direction. When asked whose fantasy we see in the scene between D.C. and
the minister clad in her diaphanous black dress (and yes, the underwear
mentioned in the review), Kate Goehring (the minister) explained that that
had been a matter of contention. While Wyn Davies was convinced that the
whole scene transpired inside D.C.'s head, Goehring was just as certain
that the minister shared that fantasy. It is to the director's credit that
he allowed her to play it that way, that the audience was permitted the
richness of a multiplicity of interpretations.
Chris Jones saw a "perplexing" play that had "lost its connection
to truth". I saw a richly complex play that revealed truth with bold,
expressionistic strokes. Since the _Joy of the Desolate_ continues through
July 9, it would be wrong for me to tell here if or how D.C. finds joy in
his desolation, but I can assure you that I left the theater joyfully,
convinced that some of the music that brings joy to our desolation is not
sung or played, but acted and lived.
B. Stone
stoneb@g.......
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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:56:38 -0400
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: Snix needs her own stories
I am sending her:
1998 Snixco Christmas Catalog
1999 Snixco Christmas Catalog
How the Nix Stole Christmas
Lacroix does the SOL
Lacroix Meets/High Commander
Schanke and Frank Reunited
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:31:47 +0900
From: Raven Breena <raven@n.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Knight College posts (was: FK University uh, school)
>Goooooooooooo Raven, You're Hired ! LOL! Will You start with Nick Knight or
>would you skip the movie?
I'll be starting with "Nick Knight" and it's almost done, just need some
final proofing.
BTW, I am really glad to be able to do this because it gives me motivation,
since I was going to do something similar anyway.
I will try to post them as often as I can, but RL promises to be a hassle in
the next 6 months or so. (Finally getting out of Japan!) I'll try to get
them out before then.
Hugs and Guns to all (esp. Billie-Lee!)
Cousin Raven
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Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:02:31 -0700
From: tigrlady2u@j.......
Subject: Re: [[FORKNI-L] Why We Should Change the Name of Forever
KnightUniversity If we do it...]
I vote for Knight School! How neat!
KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with Dark Knightie tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:27:14 +0900
From: Raven Breena <raven@n.......>
Subject: Re: Why We Should Change the Name of ...
>I vote for Knight School! How neat!
This does seem to be the concensus so far, so I will go with it. The first
part will be sent out later on today. =)
Thanks everybody!!!
Cousin Raven
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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:45:57 EDT
From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......>
Subject: Re: Why We Should Change the Name of ...
In a message dated 7/4/00 7:27:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
raven@n....... writes:
KC said <BL waving at KC>: << I vote for Knight School! How neat!>>
I agree, great that Anna <waving again> had her thinking cap on when she
suggested it.........heehee
<< This does seem to be the concensus so far, so I will go with it. The
first part will be sent out later on today. =) >>
Yeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhaaaaaaaa <LOL>.
Thank YOU, Cousin Raven--for being willing to do this.
I think we will have fun :>D :>) :>O
Forever Yours,
Billie-Lee
KoC, KS <g>, "Die Hard"
"Oh Master Grant that I may never seek to be loved as to love with all my
Soul"
(Saint Francis)
mccelt2000@a.......
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:08:23 EDT
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: [[FORKNI-L] Why We Should Change the Name of Forever Knight
University If...
In a message dated 7/3/00 11:13:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
emily.m.hanson@u....... writes:
<< How about the College of Forever Knight >>
I rather like College of Forever.
Says it all.
KnightWitch ;-]=
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 01:44:05 EDT
From: Wolfy Knight <Wolfy380@a.......>
Subject: Wolfster's back!
Yes, I am *alive*
A bit still too busy for my own good, but alive and well, and ready to fight
thru more mail!
Now, it's been what, at least half a year snice i've been around this list,
so... tell me, anything major happen while i was away?
any con's or anything that i should know about (other than LCA3, i already
know i can't go)?
::feels weird for she has been gone so long::
are you already planning another war?
If anyone who remembers me wants to know *why* i've been gone so long is
because i had a big change in my life, for the better at least. if you want
to know more, go ahead and mail me off-list, i really don't mind telling yah!
anyways, how have you all been and what has been the lastest topic?
~~~~~~~~~
Wolfy knight, who has been hiding out on her fk rpg, the dp list, and the
ratpacker list. and hopes to get back onto this list, and be able to keep up
with the tons of mail she *knows* she is going to get.
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:58:04 +0900
From: Raven Breena <raven@n.......>
Subject: Knight School - Ep.000 - Nick Knight
Forever Knight, Nick Knight, and the episodes described aren't mine, they
belong to Sony/Tri-Star and no copyright infringement is intended. Thus,
anyone can archive them, but I would appreciate a link back at my FK site
(http://www.naturesong.com/raven) and credit for writing the summary.
I will only post one of these in any 24-hour period so I don't overload the
people on digest (these can get rather long).
All Knight School Episode summaries archived at
http://www.naturesong.com/raven/episodes.htm
Special thanks to Billie-Lee for making this all possible (my tapes and FKC
idea), and McLisa for going along with it. Additions and corrections
welcome.
-Cousin Raven (raven@n.......)
***Knight School***
Episode: 000 - Nick Knight
Prerequisites: None
But you might want to check out my FK Pilot page that compares NK with DK.
http://www.naturesong.com/raven/thepilot.htm
The 1989 initial episode that sparked FK opens in a dirty mine in South
America where some grundgy workers discover a long sought cup. The cup is
beautiful, with wonderfully long fangs that face slightly outward from the
face. The blond headed Alyce Hunter appears on the scene and takes credit
for the find.
Cut to flying over Los Angeles finally landing at the museum where we see a
guard busily chewing on what's probably a donut. We zoom in on the cup, now
in a pretty case and the case smashes. Good old guard comes running in and
sees *something*, starts shooting and gets himself killed via our flying
intruder.
Whoa, Nick (Rick Springfield) in the sun bed, clad in very little (that we
can see anyway) spends his ten minutes and freaks out at the end; too much
ultraviolet rays on that sensitive vampire skin. Then he speeds away in his
'59 black Cadillac off to find Jeannie and Topper, homeless individuals
(much older than in Dark Knight) who appreciate his good tidings and his
food.
Back to the museum, the crime scene being hopelessly entangled with cops.
Enter Schanke; younger and thinner than the one we're more familiar with.
We're introduced to the ideas that there have been other murders, but they
were homeless and that our Nick doesn't really like the sight, or more
precisely, the smell of blood.
He makes a wonderful show of impressing the museum curator, the afore
mentioned Alyce Hunter, with his knowledge of South American artifacts and
glyphs. When he leaves the museum, hordes of press push in on him, but we
get no wonderful show of the vampire's hypnotic powers.
Checking out the autopsy, Dr. Jack discovers fangs marks in this new corpse,
apparently there was a single slash in the previous victims, and that the
new victim is a different blood type than the homeless people, AB. Back at
the station, Stonetree (a much different and IMHO much less effective
Stonetree) notifies our good Detective that his new partner is Schanke, and
we get that famous line, "Shoot me," which Stonetree declines, but Schanke
seems ready to oblige.
Nick heads home to the loft, above a movie theatre and covered with South
American flavored artifacts and art, even the windows are pyramid shaped.
To complete this lovely mess, we have his six TVs, lovingly stacked in a
pyramid, which he uses to view the sunrise from some unseen camera outside.
With Human League's song "Human" singing "I'm only Human..." in the
background, Nick attacks the blood in his refrigerator, carefully pouring it
into a Mayan cup identical to the one stolen at the museum and warming it
to what must be *body temperature* in the microwave. Now there's something
you don't see everyday. (Gee, I hope it's microwave safe.)
Alyce Hunter, working late again, discovers a picture of Nick in an old book
about one of the digs, marked by a scar on his chest. She even blows up the
picture to get a better view of it.
Nick tries to get some fresh cooked hamburger down and it doesn't cooperate;
Schanke is giving blood and is identified as having AB+ blood. He sucks
down some garlic and almost disables our hero with his breath.
While cruising around in the black '59 caddy, the one with the 'most trunk
space in that last 30 years', Nick and Schanke get a call that there's some
lunatic with a machine gun shooting at people, so they speed over to help.
Characteristically brazen, Nick runs out after the guy and his hostage and
gets shot to hell, falling in a swimming pool. Bubbles and gurgles explode
in the pool and Nick shoots out of the pool, all vamped out. The teeth are
tiny and the eyes aren't yellow, so much of the effect isn't very impressive
(IMHO). Then he zaps the guy, takes off to see Alyce, without so much as a
by your leave, instituting a massive search for the AWOL detective.
Nick scares the heck out of Alyce when he shows up soaking wet and full of
bullet holes and then tries to play it off; only managing to kiss her and
discover his vampire nature just won't let him do more than that and so he
takes off (again) and heads to his loft where he practices the ancient art
of angsting.
Jeannie and Topper get attacked in an alley and Topper shows up later
underneath some cardboard, quite dead. He is discovered by some little kids
playing ball (Really little, like maybe 5.) when the ball rolls under the
cardboard and into a small pool of blood. Nick freaks out and tries to
figure out where Jeannie is; that's when he finds out that there was a blood
drive there that day.
Thinking it might still be a vampire, suspecting LaCroix, and wanting to
find him, Nick drives to the Raven, a techno joint covered with blue neon
lights. After some trouble with the doorman, he makes his way in and finds
Janette (IMHO, this Janette has much less style than our Janette) who tells
him (after some scolding) where to find LaCroix and that he's not very
pleased with "Jeanne Pierre" (Nick's supposed real name in this one).
Nick leaves and discovers Alyce is following him. He shakes her up and he
noticed the scar on his chest. She puts all the pieces together and makes
him take her with him when he goes to find LaCroix. On the way, the sounds
of the Nightcrawler come on the radio (punctuated by Bobby Brown's "My
Perogitive") and Nick high-tails it to the radio station.
Leaving Alyce in the car (he thinks) and taking off in a slow paced chase
through buildings and alleys ending up in a slaughterhouse. Here, LaCroix
teases Nick with the goblet he stole from the museum. He pours steer blood
into it and offers it to Nick who refuses. LaCroix drinks it instead
(something LaCroix in later episodes wouldn't even consider).
They start to fight and Alyce walks in on the now vamped out LaCroix who
takes the opportunity to make Nick choose between her and the goblet (his
chance at mortality). He chooses Alyce and the goblet shatters. In a rage,
Nick attacks LC and flings him on some steel spikes, putting him down but
not out. The sun's coming up and Nick (starting to sizzle) rushes out and
jumps in the caddy's trunk.
Nick's caddy is picked up for being illegally parked and Schanke is elected
to go get it out of the impound. He decides to detour to the hospital with
Nick helplessly in the trunk. (Note to self: install an anti-theft engine
kill device with control in trunk.)
While at the hospital, Schanke gets jerked around by the nurse and Nick
takes the opportunity to jump out of the trunk and make his own
investigation by breaking into the doctor's computer. He grudgingly
discovers that Schanke did have it right; the connections are homeless and
type O blood.
Schanke brags about Nick's caddy to Fenner (the bad guy) and can't get
access to the records. Fenner is no help and proceeds to high tail it to
the parking garage where he finds the caddy and messes with the brakes
(under the hood). On his way back up he just misses Nick who is now on his
way down.
Schanke, oblivious to the new car renovations, takes off down the road (with
the Rivington's "Papa Mow Mow" playing in the background) where he discovers
he should have worn his seatbelt. Luckily, the only damages are to the car
and Nick's frazzled nerves as he works to keep the trunk closed and daylight
off him through the catastrophe.
We see the now frustrated Fenner appear with his blood mobile at the final
resting place of the caddy, which is now being towed.
Alyce figures out Nick's security code from the Mayan numbers (when he tried
to impress her) and heads over to the loft (the address of which she got
from the phone book).
The repair crew determines the caddy to be scrap, uselessly trying to pry
open the trunk with Nick holding it down. Taking an opportune moment, Nick
slips out to confront the highly agitated Schanke with the news that he is
*not happy* about the car, but he admits Schanke was right about the case.
They take off in another car, probably Schanke's, and Alyce discovers the
other goblet at Nick's loft. The elevator whirrs to life and Jeannie
appears, beaten and bruised, apparently having followed Alyce in. She
(Alyce) calls the paramedics to help Jeannie, who isn't at all pleased about
this turn of events.
Nick and Schanke finally get the nurse to open the files and discover that
Fenner's had some recent problems, including a mother who died due to
hepatitis contracted from a transfusion after a car accident. (Did you
follow all that?)
Nick checks his answering machine and the beeps alert Alyce that it's Nick
on the other end. The elevator opens revealing a very upset Fenner who
proceeds to beat the heck out of Alyce, knocking various flammable painting
supplies over. Nick hears it and takes off, preferring his own mode of
transportation to the vehicular kind.
Jeannie tries to fight back with a burning broom, but Fenner knocks it out
of her hand where it ignites the paint supplies.
Nick blasts in through the skylight, throwing Fenner against a wall.
Jeannie, staring incredulously, thanks the kind detective for his amazing
effort and at his insistence takes off for places less smoky. He finds
Alyce in the fire and LaCroix arrives, permanently disabling Fenner. He
then takes the opportunity to taunt Nick some more.
Alyce, wanting to be a vampire now that she knows she isn't crazy, offers
herself to Nick, who refuses, instead attacking LaCroix. They struggle and
Nick's weakness knocks him out for a second; LaCroix takes the opportunity
to take Alyce up on her offer. In a rage, Nick attacks him with a flaming
piece of wood. LaCroix is thrown across the room, sticking into the wall,
where he melts away.
A short time passes and Nick has donated his cup to the museum in the now
deceased Alyce's honor. Schanke appears with the keys to the now fixed
caddy, which they then scope out. Schanke lights a cigarette and is berated
for it by both Dr. Jack and Nick...he then complains that they don't know
what it's like to live with an addiction. Incredulously, the doctor and
Nick shake their heads then turn their attention to the restored car.
---
"Nick Knight" Questions
1. Is blue-green really better than black in a Caddy?
2. Is Schanke more or less believable as a skinny guy?
3. Could you get away with calling a skinny cop "Donut"?
4. Can Rick Springfield really compare with Geraint Wyn Davies?
5. What *were* the casting people smoking when they cast Michael Nader as
LaCroix?
6. Is blood really better microwaved?
7. Would LaCroix be caught dead with fangs that tiny?
8. Is it really wise for a vampire to have a listed number?
Further Notes:
Nick Knight Movie Soundtrack:
There is no official soundtrack, but there were quite a few popular 80's
songs in the movie. Here are the ones I've figured out (or had help
figuring out) in the order of appearance in the movie:
1. What the Night Can do - Steve Winwood
2. Human - Human League
3. Mystify - INXS
4. Real Love - Jody Watley
5. Desire - Yello
6. My Perogative - Bobby Brown
7. Papa Mow Mow - The Rivingtons
8. The Rhythm Divine - Yello w/ Shirley Bassey
9. Endless Summer Nights - Richard Marx
Additional Notes from IMDB:
Nick Knight
Also Known As:
Midnight Cop (1989)
Directed by
Farhad Mann
Writing credits
Barney Cohen
James D. Parriott
Cast overview:
Allison Barron .... Girl swimmer
Al Berry .... Desk Sergeant
David Byrd (II) .... Guard #2
Andree Chapman .... Uniformed Policewoman
David Correia .... Mechanic
Richard Fancy .... Capt. Brunetti
Al Fann .... Dedrick
Robert Harper (I) .... Dr. Jack Brittington
Rosanna Huffman .... Reporter #1
Rif Hutton .... Reporter #2
Laura Johnson (I) .... Alyce Hunter
John Kapelos .... Donald Schanke
Irene Miracle .... Nurse
Dennis Moynahan .... Confused Orderly
Jack Murdock .... Fenner
Michael Nader .... Lacroix
Craig Richard Nelson .... Topper
Davis Roberts .... Dr. Dave
Fran Ryan .... Jeannie
Rick Springfield .... Nick Knight/Jean-Pierre
Dendrie Taylor .... Tanning Attendant
Cec Verrell .... Janette
Gregory Wagrowski .... Detective Jessell
Pamela West .... Tanning Attendant
<end>
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 05:29:44 EDT
From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep.000 - Nick Knight
Yowsa Cousin Raven, that was an outstanding Synopsis and Post!!
I liked the extra stuff like the music and the Cast :<D
OK <reluctantly snipping CR's **great** Synopsis but only to save bandwidth
<g> now on to the questions:
"Nick Knight" Questions
1. Is blue-green really better than black in a Caddy?
I would have to say no. This is one of the things I liked about the movie
more, **the Caddy.** And both Rick/Nick look so good in black, after
all......
2. Is Schanke more or less believable as a skinny guy?
Definitely less! His character comes off much bettte with a little more meat
on his bones <g> hehehe
3. Could you get away with calling a skinny cop "Donut"?
BWAHAHAHAHAH, not in my neighborhood, anyhow--our area is covered by the
Sheriff's Department. They are much cooler than the city cops in surrouding
areas, but I don't think I would get a real positive response if I called one
a Donut!
4. Can Rick Springfield really compare with Geraint Wyn Davies?
Not exactly, nooooooooo, but I like the way he played the character darker.
Of course, I saw Nick Knight on its first TV run and thought "Gee, they
oughta make a TV series out of that......" <g> Little did I know! But all in
all, GWD has truly defined the character and I *love* the flashbacks in
FK--usually my favorite part of most eps!
5. What *were* the casting people smoking when they cast Michael Nader as
LaCroix?
Uhhhhhhhhhhh, a dime bag of Oregano? (Stolen from Tom Cruise in "The Firm."<g>
6. Is blood really better microwaved?
Dunno, never tried it. And I'll be danged it I am gonna let anyone take
enough blood from me or anyone I know to find out <LOL>. Seems it might get
that "just microwaved" taste (you know what I mean? <ugh>), so my answer has
to be "no."
7. Would LaCroix be caught dead with fangs that tiny?
Are you kidding, not in a million years, he'd have had Michael Nader's
LaCroix for breakfst in five seconds flat (IMHO, as is all above & below!)
8. Is it really wise for a vampire to have a listed number?
NO, and better yet: it is wise for a Police Detective to have a listed
number? I don't and I am not either a Detective nor a Vampire.......when
working in .....er.....more sensitive settings, our nurse's name tags *don't*
have our last names on them! So again, I will have to say no that one :>)
Thanks Cousin Raven, great first post, great questions, synopsis and extra
goodies in this........and **thank you** for crediting me with the idea (and
your eps <g>) even if I did steal .......er.......**borrow** the idea from
the HL List!
Forever Yours,
Billie-Lee
KoC, KS, "Die Hard"
mccelt2000@a.......
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:12:26 -0500
From: Emma Lighton <elighton@b.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep.000 - Nick Knight
Never seen the movie, but what the heck.
>"Nick Knight" Questions
>
>1. Is blue-green really better than black in a Caddy?
>
I'd say anything is better than that shade of blue-green.
>2. Is Schanke more or less believable as a skinny guy?
>
>3. Could you get away with calling a skinny cop "Donut"?
>
Probably, you'd really silly doing it, but if you can run fast enough you
can get away with most things. :)
>4. Can Rick Springfield really compare with Geraint Wyn Davies?
>
>5. What *were* the casting people smoking when they cast Michael Nader as
>LaCroix?
>
They weren't, they took the brown acid at Woodstock, and never quite recovered.
>6. Is blood really better microwaved?
>
I'd suspect that vamps would prefer warm blood to cold blood. It'd be more
like drinking from a living person.
>7. Would LaCroix be caught dead with fangs that tiny?
>
Some things are uncontrolable, but he'd be insiting that size wasn't important.
>8. Is it really wise for a vampire to have a listed number?
>
Depends. If the word 'vampire' appears anywhere in the listing, no, but
otherwise, it doesn't seem anymore dangerous than for the rest of us.
Emma (elighton@b.......)
Vaquera * DPheretic * T+Vpack * FKMac-er Head Mouse Clicker
Survivor of Wars 9 and 10
"Pulvis et umbra sumus." -Horace
http://members.tripod.com/~lostshadows/main.html
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:42:40 EDT
From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@a.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep.000 - Nick Knight & YKYHBWTMFKW
In a message dated 7/5/00 2:32:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
McCelt2000@a....... writes:
I said << 5. What *were* the casting people smoking when they cast Michael
Nader as LaCroiox? <<Uhhhhhhhhhhh, a dime bag of Oregano? (Stolen from Tom
Cruise in "The Firm."<g >>
Well dddddddddduuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh (pointing this out to myself before
someone else does <g>) I meant stolen from Mr. Cruise in **A Few Good Men**
(suddenly having a flashback of TC as Lestat <g>).
Hey only one other person has answered the questions! Let's make Cousin
Raven feel like it's worth all her work in doing this.........oh.........I
forgot Holiday and all. Well, OK...........<g>
Re: YKYHBWTMFKW..............
On your official day off (and today too....amzaing thing, that is <g>) you
spend most of the day either making some FK stuff for folks and then the rest
of it checking your email to see if anyone is interested in Knight School.
Then you print out all the mail related to Knight School, and OCD as you are
you organize it in chronological order and put it all in a binder.
Yes, I know that was lame, but 'twas true.......and 'tis early <g>
BIG WAVE at Wolfy ((((((((((((((welcome backm we missed you)))))))))))
Forever Yours, Billie-Lee
KoC, KS, "Die Hard"
mccelt2000@aol..com
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:06:59 CDT
From: "Emily M.Hanson" <emily.m.hanson@u.......>
Subject: Re: [[FORKNI-L] Knight School - Ep.000 - Nick Knight]
Raven Breena <raven@n.......> wrote:
"Nick Knight" Questions
1. Is blue-green really better than black in a Caddy?
I like the blue green caddy. Actually, you know what color would be even
better: Red. I've seen a red classic Caddy, it looked cool!
2. Is Schanke more or less believable as a skinny guy?
I don't know, I haven't seen the movie. However, he is
currently skinny in my fanfics - though there's a good reason.
3. Could you get away with calling a skinny cop "Donut"?
Depends on how many donuts he ate.
4. Can Rick Springfield really compare with Geraint Wyn Davies?
Hmmm . . . they're both very good looking. GWD's very blond hair
make a nice contrast in the genre, I get so tired of seeing vampires
in TV shows that have the Vachon and Jeanette look.
5. What *were* the casting people smoking when they cast Michael Nader as
LaCroix?
Don't want to go there.
6. Is blood really better microwaved?
I wouldn't know, I"m not a vampire. However, in most vampire fiction
they prefer their blood warm. So to them, it probably tastes better.
7. Would LaCroix be caught dead with fangs that tiny?
I'd have to see a pic.
8. Is it really wise for a vampire to have a listed number?
Well, they didn't know he was a vampire. I guess it depends on the
occupation, as far as I know there's no rule that says a cop can't
have a listed number.
Further Notes:
Nick Knight Movie Soundtrack:
There is no official soundtrack, but there were quite a few popular 80's
songs in the movie. Here are the ones I've figured out (or had help
figuring out) in the order of appearance in the movie:
1. What the Night Can do - Steve Winwood
2. Human - Human League
3. Mystify - INXS
4. Real Love - Jody Watley
5. Desire - Yello
6. My Perogative - Bobby Brown
7. Papa Mow Mow - The Rivingtons
8. The Rhythm Divine - Yello w/ Shirley Bassey
9. Endless Summer Nights - Richard Marx
Additional Notes from IMDB:
Nick Knight
Also Known As:
Midnight Cop (1989)
Directed by
Farhad Mann
Writing credits
Barney Cohen
James D. Parriott
Cast overview:
Allison Barron .... Girl swimmer
Al Berry .... Desk Sergeant
David Byrd (II) .... Guard #2
Andree Chapman .... Uniformed Policewoman
David Correia .... Mechanic
Richard Fancy .... Capt. Brunetti
Al Fann .... Dedrick
Robert Harper (I) .... Dr. Jack Brittington
Rosanna Huffman .... Reporter #1
Rif Hutton .... Reporter #2
Laura Johnson (I) .... Alyce Hunter
John Kapelos .... Donald Schanke
Irene Miracle .... Nurse
Dennis Moynahan .... Confused Orderly
Jack Murdock .... Fenner
Michael Nader .... Lacroix
Craig Richard Nelson .... Topper
Davis Roberts .... Dr. Dave
Fran Ryan .... Jeannie
Rick Springfield .... Nick Knight/Jean-Pierre
Dendrie Taylor .... Tanning Attendant
Cec Verrell .... Janette
Gregory Wagrowski .... Detective Jessell
Pamela West .... Tanning Attendant
<end>
Emily M. Hanson
http://www.starbase-eprime.com
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:14:01 -0500
From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep.000 - Nick Knight
> The 1989 initial episode that sparked FK opens in a dirty mine in South
> America where some grundgy workers discover a long sought cup. The cup is
> beautiful, with wonderfully long fangs that face slightly outward from the
> face. The blond headed Alyce Hunter appears on the scene and takes credit
> for the find.
Can't help commenting. IIRC, this is an archaeological dig, not a mine. And
Alyce, as the archaeologist in charge, isn't "taking credit" for the find, it's
her job to properly handle what the excavators have found.
Pardon my being anal. My subscription to "Archaeology" is showing. <g>
> "Nick Knight" Questions
>
> 1. Is blue-green really better than black in a Caddy?
Absolutely. Anyone can drive a sinister black Caddy. It takes a man to drive a
teal one and still look menacing.
> 2. Is Schanke more or less believable as a skinny guy?
I think JK's sexy no matter what shape he's in! He was actually pretty darned
good looking in his leaner days -- reference "Breakfast Club."
> 3. Could you get away with calling a skinny cop "Donut"?
Hey, I know skinny people who scarf down donuts! Why not?
> 4. Can Rick Springfield really compare with Geraint Wyn Davies?
Not a snowball's chance in you-know-where.
> 5. What *were* the casting people smoking when they cast Michael Nader as
> LaCroix?
Whatever it was, I think the surgeon-general had a few words to say about it.
> 6. Is blood really better microwaved?
Depends on whether you use the defrost or the cook setting. Defrost, okay. Cook,
and all the little red blood cells explode, leaving you with the vampire
equivilent of cranberry sauce. Ruins the texture!
> 7. Would LaCroix be caught dead with fangs that tiny?
Perhaps he hadn't head about Fang-agra, the new medication to help with dental
disfunction. On the positive side, though, they could use his photo in the new
ad campaign, "This is the face of vampiric disfunction," and he could make a
fortune. He'd have to refrain from vamping out, though, because those brow
ridges just don't say "studly, middle-aged hunk," at least in California.
> 8. Is it really wise for a vampire to have a listed number?
Perhaps Rick/Nick had a secret yearning to chat with telemarketers and crank
callers. And if he didn't want to talk to them, he could trot out his French
accent, use his real name, and make them believe they got the wrong number.
Strangely enough, Schanke's fallen for it six times.
Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 0100 23:18:36 JAPAN
From: raven@n.......
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep.000 - Nick Knight
> 7. Would LaCroix be caught dead with fangs that tiny?
> I'd have to see a pic.
I do have some captures from the movie side by side with the images from Dark
Knight, addy is http://www.naturesong.com/raven/thepilot.htm
About 2/3 down there's an image of Rick Springfield 'vamped out' *cough* and it
shows the tiny fangs I was referring to.
Of course, it all depends on how you like your fangs...and *another thing*,
what about the crappy eye effects in Nick Knight? I'll take the contacts with
the goofy light shining on them any day. =)
BTW, there's also an image of 'skinny Schanke' on there, so you can see what I
mean.
Hugs and Guns,
Cousin Raven
raven@n.......
<end>
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 0100 23:28:36 JAPAN
From: raven@n.......
Subject: Re: Knight School - Ep.000 - Nick Knight
> > The 1989 initial episode that sparked FK opens in a dirty mine in South
> > America where some grundgy workers discover a long sought cup.
> Can't help commenting. IIRC, this is an archaeological dig, not a mine. And
> Alyce, as the archaeologist in charge, isn't "taking credit" for the find,
>it's her job to properly handle what the excavators have found.
No, you're absolutely right. I looked and saw sand and shovels and typed my
first thought, a mine. After I thought about it (and unfortunately posted it)
I realized my mistake, along with the 'taking credit' part. I realize that
she's the archaeologist in charge, but the donkey who discovered the Dead Sea
Scrolls gets credit for finding them, but the actual laboror who dug the cup up
doesn't? (Just a personal miff)
>he could trot out his French
> accent, use his real name, and make them believe they got the wrong number.
> Strangely enough, Schanke's fallen for it six times.
Alright, was this in Fanfic or on the show? I don't remember this...c'mon,
references...references; if it's fanfic I wanna read it; if it's in a show I'll
go hide in a corner and review my tapes. (Hey, I don't claim to know it all,
just that I'd volunteer to watch the eps again and provide a *highly detailed*
summary; Some things were just too good glaze over.)
Cousin Raven
Life is in the details.
<end>
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